{"id":76671,"date":"2025-02-08T22:54:48","date_gmt":"2025-02-08T22:54:48","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/peraltafinancing.com\/alcohol\/new-yorkers-share-why-st-marks-bars-and-spirit-live-on\/"},"modified":"2025-02-08T22:54:48","modified_gmt":"2025-02-08T22:54:48","slug":"new-yorkers-share-why-st-marks-bars-and-spirit-live-on","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/fivemor.com\/?p=76671","title":{"rendered":"New Yorkers Share Why St. Marks\u2019 Bars and Spirit Live On"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div id=\"\">\n<p>\t\t\t\t<!-- Content Blocks --><\/p>\n<section class=\"new_article_block content-block\">\n<p>On paper, it\u2019s absurd that anyone would be sad about a Dallas BBQ closing. And yet here we were, my colleagues and I reminiscing about the ribs-and-Daiquiris chain that had once lived on the corner of St. Marks Place and Second Avenue in Manhattan\u2019s East Village. How dare it be gone, we roared, and then sighed: St. Marks isn\u2019t what it used to be.<\/p>\n<p>&#13;<\/p>\n<p>The Dallas BBQ has been replaced recently by Caf\u00e9 Maud, a perfectly lovely all-day caf\u00e9 painted in desaturated oranges and greens, where I recently enjoyed a bowl of fries and a $16 glass of wine with some friends after a show down the block. But as I sat in the semicircular booth, I caught scenes of myself in the corner\u2019s past life. Eating bacon cheeseburgers and drinking illicit Pi\u00f1a Coladas as a 17-year-old, giggling in wonder that the server never asked to see my ID. Bringing friends who had escaped New Orleans during Hurricane Katrina so we could drink something close to the frozen Daiquiris we wouldn\u2019t have again for months. It was shitty, but that was the point of it, and everything on the block\u2014a little weird, a little haggard, but always ready for a party. Was that who was attracted to St. Marks, or did the block make it so?<\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n&#13;<\/p>\n<p>In Ada Calhoun\u2019s seminal book <i>St. Marks is Dead, <\/i>she traces the strange and slippery history of the street as a center for misfit nightlife, with each successive generation claiming that their time drinking and sleazing on the street was <i>the<\/i> time, that anyone who came after just doesn\u2019t understand what it was like. And yet, walk down the street today and there\u2019s no shortage of people having a good time. Now it\u2019s packed with dumpling houses and izakayas, serene wine bars like Caf\u00e9 Maud and the rowdy Barcade. There are bars and restaurants and places to soak up the booze, just as there always have been.<\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n&#13;<\/p>\n<p>Here, we speak to people who, over the generations, have made St. Marks what it is, and who know it\u2019s not dead\u2014even if their favorite parts of it are.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<section class=\"new_article_block subheader_divider\">\n<h6><span\/><\/h6>\n<\/section>\n<section class=\"new_article_block content-block\">\n<h2><em><strong>Everyone seems to be drawn to St. Marks Place for a reason, even if that reason isn\u2019t drinking.<\/strong><\/em><\/h2>\n<\/section>\n<section class=\"new_article_block content-block\">\n<p>\u201cI\u2019d been going to the East Village since about probably \u201969, to Fillmore, East Side Books, all those places. It was, you know, the hippies, the drugs, the bookstores, the record stores, the concert venues, and eventually the used clothing stores too. There were a lot of those.\u201d <i>\u2014Lucy Sante, critic and author, most recently of <\/i>I Heard Her Call My Name<\/p>\n<p>&#13;<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI got really into punk pretty early on, and I remember very specifically I had inherited the Replacements album with \u2018Alex Chilton\u2019 on it, and he talks about checking out the trash on St. Marks Place. And I remember just being like, <i>What is that?<\/i> Going to high school in the Midwest, I was so New York\u2013obsessed. I kept seeing \u2018St. Marks Place,\u2019 and the way it sounded was like this open-air bazaar for punks or something.\u201d <i>\u2014Jason Diamond, co-author of <\/i>New York Nico\u2019s Guide to NYC<i> and the forthcoming novel <\/i>Kaplan\u2019s Plot<i> (Flatiron, 2025)<\/i><br \/>&#13;\n<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"instagram-media\" style=\"background: #FFF; border: 0; border-radius: 3px; box-shadow: 0 0 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.5),0 1px 10px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.15); margin: 1px; max-width: 540px; min-width: 326px; padding: 0; width: calc(100% - 2px);\" data-instgrm-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/p\/CmB7EouOw5j\/?utm_source=ig_embed&amp;utm_campaign=loading\" data-instgrm-version=\"14\"><p>&#13;<br \/>\n<br \/>&#13;\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>&#13;<\/p>\n<hr class=\"hide\"\/>&#13;<\/p>\n<p>\u201cMy dad was a devoted bookstore crawler and Allen Ginsberg fan. During the mid-1970s, my dad took my family on a day trip to Manhattan\u2014our first time in the city. I trailed him along St. Marks Place as he hit every bookstore on the strip. It was summer, I was overheated, bored and\u2014at least on the street\u2014a little scared. In my defense, I was just a kid. And to me, it seemed like everyone we passed looked like the photos of Allen Ginsberg I had seen on my dad\u2019s books.\u201d <i>\u2014East Village blogger EV Grieve<\/i><\/p>\n<p>&#13;<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI grew up on Ninth and B, so it was kind of just home.\u201d <i>\u2014Danny Orlin, second-generation owner of Cafe Mogador<\/i><\/p>\n<\/section>\n<section class=\"new_article_block subheader_divider\">\n<h6><span\/><\/h6>\n<\/section>\n<section class=\"new_article_block content-block\">\n<h2><strong><em>Bars have dotted St. Marks\u2019 storefronts for generations, but the thoroughfare itself has often been a place to see and be seen.<\/em><\/strong><\/h2>\n<\/section>\n<section class=\"new_article_block content-block\">\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cI was born in 1976, and so nightlife for the first 10 years was listening to very loud people on the street. When I became a teenager, we mostly just walked around&#8230; I think St. Marks Place is so much about the street traffic and the sidewalks and the stoops that the actual places matter, but they also don\u2019t, right? Because people back in the day had 40s in paper bags. I don\u2019t even know what the equivalent is now, but that doesn\u2019t change. The sidewalks are the same.\u201d <i>\u2014Ada Calhoun, author of <\/i>St. Marks is Dead<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&#13;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cYou had these businesses that were actively trying to get the weirdo kids. Like Search &amp; Destroy\u2014the rumor was they used to pay crust punks to hang out on the steps, $10 to sit here and harass people.\u201d <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u2014Diamond<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p>&#13;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cI just struggled to remember a single club on St. Marks Place. It was never about that&#8230; People would just strut for the benefit of everybody else. It was a natural catwalk. When I first started seeing trans people, or at least drag queens, it was on St. Marks Place, you know, <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.curbed.com\/2015\/01\/home-of-a-doll-collecting-warhol-associate.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Beauregard Houston-Montgomery<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> strutting down the street in the black mini dress. It was a cultural marketplace and display space.\u201d <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u2014Sante<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<\/section>\n<section class=\"new_article_block subheader_divider\">\n<h6><span\/><\/h6>\n<\/section>\n<section class=\"new_article_block content-block\">\n<h2><em><strong>But there were plenty of bars and clubs on the block itself, many of which are now long gone. They differed in style, but there was a focus on live music and performance, artistic experimentation and just having a wild time.<\/strong><\/em><\/h2>\n<\/section>\n<section class=\"new_article_block content-block\">\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cThere was the Electric Circus [a nightclub between Second and Third avenues]. We weren\u2019t old enough, though I guess we put on enough makeup to look old enough to get into the Electric Circus. And I think we went in \u201969 or \u201970 to see Iggy Pop and the Stooges. I remember the first time we went, or one of the first times I remember, that there were murals all over the wall of naked people, like almost orgy-looking. And they had some rotating thing in the middle that you could sit on, and it would just rotate you around the room. And there was a dom downstairs.\u201d <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u2014Tish Bellomo, co-founder of Manic Panic<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p>&#13;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cFive Spot was a very famous jazz club in the \u201950s and early \u201960s. In my time, I remember that being a vacant lot where it had been, but somebody reopened the Five Spot again on St. Marks. I used to keep a tally in my head, starting in the late \u201960s, of: <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">This place is gone, this place is new<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">.\u201d <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u2014Sante<\/span><\/i><br \/>&#13;\n<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"instagram-media\" style=\"background: #FFF; border: 0; border-radius: 3px; box-shadow: 0 0 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.5),0 1px 10px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.15); margin: 1px; max-width: 540px; min-width: 326px; padding: 0; width: calc(100% - 2px);\" data-instgrm-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/p\/CtDIOHkNva-\/?utm_source=ig_embed&amp;utm_campaign=loading\" data-instgrm-version=\"14\"><p>&#13;<br \/>\n<br \/>&#13;\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>&#13;<\/p>\n<hr class=\"hide\"\/>&#13;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cThere was the 57 Club. We performed there, and were part of the <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/disband.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/03\/Buszek-LadiesAuxiliary-2020.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Ladies\u2019 Auxiliary of the Lower East Side<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> [a women-only group producing feminist art within the club]. I remember so many different people from all walks of life would go to Boy Bar. Some gay bars didn&#8217;t want outsiders\u2014I mean, we weren&#8217;t really outsiders because we performed there and supplied everybody with their makeup\u2014[but Boy Bar wasn\u2019t] so snooty about letting people in. I remember drinking there with Angie Bowie one night, getting really drunk. I usually drank vodka. I think they sometimes made fancy drinks, but most people couldn\u2019t afford fancy drinks.\u201d <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u2014Bellomo<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p>&#13;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201c[Boy Bar] became the Green Door. Jesse Malin took over that space and that was another great fun place. I remember one night they had this above-ground pool in the backyard. You could do stuff like that back then. Maybe they do it in Brooklyn. Who knows?\u201d <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u2014Bellomo<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p>&#13;<\/p>\n<p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201c<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">When I was like 15, in 1996, I was staying with a friend, and we had convinced his older sister who had a place in the East Village to let us stay there. He knew a skinhead who was selling acid, and we had to go to [Malin\u2019s venue] Coney Island High to get it. I\u2019m like, <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Yo, I\u2019ve always wanted to go there!<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> I think Bim Skala Bim was playing. We took it and it wound up being fake, but it felt kind of cool, being hoodwinked by a skinhead on St. Marks. Coney Island High really represented just that \u201980s, \u201990s, DIY punk. You go look back at some of the bands they had play. It\u2019s like, <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Wow, that was, like, legit.<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201d <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u2014Diamond<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p>&#13;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cThere was Grassroots, which was an NYU student post-hippie bar. And it was a kind of bar where, when you first get to college\u2014because I am old enough that the drinking age was still 18\u2014Grassroots would be the kind of bar that you\u2019d go to in your first year of college, but then you\u2019d find a better place the second year. It had an air of sodden desperation about it, and it stank; it smelled. And especially in the punk era, we scorned the hippies. And they weren\u2019t even real hippies. They were like aspirational hippies.\u201d <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u2014Sante<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p>&#13;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cWe visited the Grassroots in 1990 during the CMJ New Music Festival. I didn\u2019t live here yet. We <\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">had a few beers on a Friday afternoon. The older bartender, who I\u2019d learn later was John Leeper, bought our third round of pints for us. Being broke, I was pretty psyched&#8230; The Grassroots was the first NYC place where I felt like a regular, and I made friends with the assorted cast of characters who hung out there during John\u2019s 4 to 9 p.m. shifts on Fridays and Saturdays. It was one of those rare, unpretentious spots where the city felt a little smaller, and conversations came a little easier with an eclectic group of regulars.\u201d <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u2014EV Grieve<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<\/section>\n<section class=\"new_article_block subheader_divider\">\n<h6><span\/><\/h6>\n<\/section>\n<section class=\"new_article_block content-block\">\n<h2><b><i>As we know, St. Marks is not dead. Other great spots remain on the multiblock strip<\/i><\/b><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">.<\/span><\/i><\/h2>\n<\/section>\n<section class=\"new_article_block content-block\">\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cI would go to [the bar] Bua after work. Bua has been around for a little while at this point. St. Dymphna\u2019s used to be on St. Marks Place before it went around the corner to Avenue A, so I used to go there, presenting them with fake IDs. But they didn\u2019t know that, or maybe they did, and just didn\u2019t say anything.\u201d <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u2014Orlin<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p>&#13;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cI have such a deep love for Mamoun\u2019s Falafel, because I\u2019ve been drunk so many times, and it\u2019s just somehow like a beacon. And I love Crif Dogs. I\u2019m glad it\u2019s still there; it should be respected far more than it is.\u201d <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u2014Diamond<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p>&#13;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cI\u2019m not someone who believes St. Marks is dead. (I loved Ada Calhoun\u2019s book, by the way.) Just maybe different. Search &amp; Destroy, East Village Books, Fun City Tattoo, Mamoun\u2019s Falafel and the Sock Man are still around, as are Cafe Mogador and the Holiday Cocktail Lounge&#8230; I remain optimistic and appreciate what we still have rather than dwell on what we\u2019ve lost.\u201d <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u2014EV Grieve<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<\/section>\n<section class=\"new_article_block subheader_divider\">\n<h6><span\/><\/h6>\n<\/section>\n<section class=\"new_article_block content-block\">\n<h2><b><i>Of all the bars, old and new, none was more embraced than the Holiday Cocktail Lounge, which has been on St. Marks in one form or another for nearly 100 years.\u00a0<\/i><\/b><\/h2>\n<\/section>\n<section class=\"new_article_block content-block\">\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cHoliday used to be Ann\u2019s Beauty [Shop]. And I was looking at the rent rolls, and you see, all of a sudden, in the middle of this beauty salon, they put in two bathrooms. That\u2019s one of the signifiers of a speakeasy. We took the paneling down\u2014there\u2019s like six different doors out. There\u2019s also a tunnel that goes from this bar to the bar in Theater 80 across the street. And then there was a tunnel from that bar to First Avenue.\u201d <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u2014<\/span><\/i><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Barbara Sibley, manager of Holiday Cocktail Lounge<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p>&#13;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cIf I were to go down today, tonight, I would go to the Holiday&#8230; I think we should go tonight. I think we should do it.\u201d <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u2014Snooky Bellomo, co-founder of Manic Panic<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p>&#13;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cThe Holiday Cocktail Lounge was a place where people would really get hammered. As opposed to the other bars in the neighborhood, people got more hammered at the Holiday. It was run by this short Hungarian man who immigrated to the U.S. in the late \u201940s right after the war, and went to Hollywood, where he was hired as Alan Ladd\u2019s body double.\u201d <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u2014Sante<\/span><\/i><br \/>&#13;\n<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"instagram-media\" style=\"background: #FFF; border: 0; border-radius: 3px; box-shadow: 0 0 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.5),0 1px 10px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.15); margin: 1px; max-width: 540px; min-width: 326px; padding: 0; width: calc(100% - 2px);\" data-instgrm-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/p\/DDNoS-mxb_m\/?utm_source=ig_embed&amp;utm_campaign=loading\" data-instgrm-version=\"14\"><p>&#13;<br \/>\n<br \/>&#13;\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>&#13;<\/p>\n<hr class=\"hide\"\/>&#13;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cIt\u2019s the revamped Holiday now, but it\u2019s so similar. Like, yes, it\u2019s cleaner, and there\u2019s no duct tape on the seats, and there\u2019s not that guy sleeping on the step, and it\u2019s slightly more expensive [now that] they have fancier drinks, and they put little plastic dinosaurs in them. But those guys are great, and it feels very, very similar to me. I spend quite a bit of time there.\u201d <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u2014Calhoun<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p>&#13;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cIt was just so grimy before they redid it. I like what they did to it, but you would go in there, and it was just like, <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Oh, these are some real lifers in this place.<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201d <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u2014Diamond<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p>&#13;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cI actually asked Arlene, who bartended in the \u201960s, what was the price of whiskey? And we figured out that it was actually the same relative price. Everything was $2.50, basically it cost five subway tokens. And I was like, well, that\u2019s kind of like what we\u2019re charging right now.\u201d <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u2014Sibley<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<\/section>\n<section class=\"new_article_block subheader_divider\">\n<h6><span\/><\/h6>\n<\/section>\n<section class=\"new_article_block content-block\">\n<h2><b><i>Everyone remembers when it felt like the end for them.<\/i><\/b><\/h2>\n<\/section>\n<section class=\"new_article_block content-block\">\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cThe Gap moved in.\u201d <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u2014Tish Bellomo<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p>&#13;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cI remember at some point I was visiting family in Long Island when I was in town, and they were talking about how they\u2019re opening a Gap on St. Marks Place. My aunt and uncle, they used to hang out in the East Village in the \u201950s and \u201970s, so I figured if they\u2019re opening on St. Marks, there must be some connection there, because I hate The Gap, because I\u2019m punk.\u201d <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u2014Diamond<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p>&#13;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cThe St. Marks Bar &amp; Grill. We would go every once in a while, in the late \u201970s. It was an old man bar. At any given moment, a third of them are singing, a third of them are fighting, and a third of them are sleeping. That was the vibe. And then The Rolling Stones shot a video there for \u2018<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=MKLVmBOOqVU\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Waiting on a Friend<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">.\u2019 And that had a terrible effect on the neighborhood. That bar got fancied up. That sucked. I remember that in combination with when they opened the first McDonald\u2019s on First Avenue.\u201d <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u2014Sante<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p>&#13;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cWhen I was working on the book, from like 2011 to 2014 or so, somebody was like, <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Oh, St. Marks is dead.<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> It\u2019s like a young guy. And I said, \u2018Well, what\u2019s the evidence?\u2019 And he said, \u2018The Starbucks closed. We used to go get Starbucks cups and fill them with strawberry Champagne and walk around and feel very glamorous. And you can\u2019t do that now.\u2019\u201d <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u2014Calhoun<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<\/section>\n<section class=\"new_article_block subheader_divider\">\n<h6><span\/><\/h6>\n<\/section>\n<section class=\"new_article_block content-block\">\n<h2><b><i>But everyone also appreciates the new, or at least the new-to-them. Because no matter what specific businesses are or aren\u2019t on the block, St. Marks Place remains a catwalk, a place to experience nightlife, or maybe just pass through and see what else is going on on your way to another party.<\/i><\/b><\/h2>\n<\/section>\n<section class=\"new_article_block content-block\">\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cWe had a gig at La Palapa recently. We sang for our supper and actually got paid a little bit. So much fun.\u201d <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u2014Tish Bellomo<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p>&#13;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cThere are more Asian restaurants, and so a lot more ramen and that place, Kenka, I feel like there\u2019s always a huge line out in front of that. I also stopped by Village Works to do some book shopping late at night. I think it\u2019s open till midnight or 1 a.m., and it is so much like these bookstores I went to in the \u201990s and in high school, some of which were, like, in people\u2019s apartments. You could stay there forever, and it was all cash, and there were kind of grimy couches you could sit on. It feels like 1991 to me in that store.\u201d <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u2014Calhoun<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p>&#13;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cHistory and name recognition help keep St. Marks Place a destination. And it has an <\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">enduring energy and character that keeps drawing people in. Its long history of counterculture, <\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">music and artistic expression creates a vibe that\u2019s hard to replicate. Even as individual <\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">businesses change, the street\u2019s reputation for spontaneity remains strong.\u201d <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u2014EV Grieve<\/span><\/i><br \/>&#13;\n<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"instagram-media\" style=\"background: #FFF; border: 0; border-radius: 3px; box-shadow: 0 0 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.5),0 1px 10px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.15); margin: 1px; max-width: 540px; min-width: 326px; padding: 0; width: calc(100% - 2px);\" data-instgrm-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/p\/Cmu9D67tBVu\/?utm_source=ig_embed&amp;utm_campaign=loading\" data-instgrm-version=\"14\"><p>&#13;<br \/>\n<br \/>&#13;\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>&#13;<\/p>\n<hr class=\"hide\"\/>&#13;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cI feel like \u2018the culture\u2019 can get a little compromised at times, because people will just come and trash the place. 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