{"id":7062226,"date":"2026-09-20T16:11:03","date_gmt":"2026-09-20T16:11:03","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/peraltafinancing.com\/uncategorized\/working-well-with-couples-who-stonewall-withdraw-and-shut-down-with-marie-vakakis-mental-work\/"},"modified":"2026-09-20T16:11:03","modified_gmt":"2026-09-20T16:11:03","slug":"working-well-with-couples-who-stonewall-withdraw-and-shut-down-with-marie-vakakis-mental-work","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/fivemor.com\/?p=7062226","title":{"rendered":"Working well with couples who stonewall, withdraw, and shut down (with Marie Vakakis) – Mental Work"},"content":{"rendered":"


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Bron is joined by Marie Vakakis (Mental Health Social Worker and couples therapist) to chat about working with couples who stonewall, withdraw, and shut down. Marie unpacks the Gottman Method’s “Four Horsemen” and shares exactly what to say and do when a couple’s session starts to unravel. I found the episode really helpful for individual work, too!<\/p>\n

They chat about:
\ud83d\udc49\ud83c\udffd The Four Horsemen: Criticism, Defensiveness, Contempt and Stonewalling
\ud83d\udc49\ud83c\udffb The specific antidotes to each pattern, including the “I feel, when, I need” formula
\ud83d\udc49 How to recognise nervous system overwhelm and pause a session safely
\ud83d\udc49\ud83c\udfff Common mistakes early-career clinicians make starting out in couples work<\/p>\n

Guest: Marie Vakakis<\/a>, Accredited mental health social worker and couples therapist<\/p>\n

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THE END BITS<\/strong><\/p>\n

Mental Work is the podcast for psychologists about the realities of working in mental health, with an early-career focus. Hosted by psychologist\/researcher Dr Bronwyn Milkins<\/a>.<\/p>\n

Support the show by buying me a virtual coffee<\/a> \u2615\ud83c\udf75<\/p>\n

Have a question, episode idea or just want to say hi? DM Bron on Instagram<\/a>, leave a comment on the Spotify episode<\/a>, or email mentalworkpodcast@gmail.com<\/a><\/p>\n

Apply to be a guest<\/a> \/ YouTube (with captions & transcript)<\/a> \/ Website<\/a><\/p>\n

CREDITS<\/strong><\/p>\n

Producer: Michael English<\/p>\n

Music: Home<\/a><\/p>\n

Commitment: <\/em><\/strong>Mental Work believes in an inclusive and diverse mental health workforce. We honour the strength, resilience, and invaluable contributions of mental health workers with lived experiences of mental illness, disability, neurodivergence, LGBTIQA+ identities, and diverse culture and language. We recognise our First Nations colleagues as Traditional Custodians of the land and pay respect to Elders past, present, and emerging. Mental Work is recorded on unceded Whadjuk Noongar boodja.<\/em><\/p>\n

Disclaimer:<\/em><\/strong> Mental Work provides informational content. Mental Work is not a psychological service and being a listener or guest does not establish a therapeutic relationship. Content should not be considered a replacement for professional consultation or therapy. All views expressed are personal, subject to change, and do not represent those of any affiliated employer, service, or organisation past or present. Efforts are made to ensure accuracy, but opinions may not always align with fact. Listeners are encouraged to thoughtfully assess the information presented and report any inaccuracies or concerns via <\/em>email<\/em><\/a>. Further information can be found <\/em>here<\/em><\/a>.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/div>\n