{"id":7056080,"date":"2026-09-03T18:13:41","date_gmt":"2026-09-03T18:13:41","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/peraltafinancing.com\/uncategorized\/amanda-frances-called-her-church-a-cult-on-rhobh-she-was-right\/"},"modified":"2026-09-03T18:13:41","modified_gmt":"2026-09-03T18:13:41","slug":"amanda-frances-called-her-church-a-cult-on-rhobh-she-was-right","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/fivemor.com\/?p=7056080","title":{"rendered":"Amanda Frances Called Her Church a Cult on RHOBH. She Was Right."},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div>\n<div data-breakout=\"normal\">\n<div class=\"JglCJ\" id=\"viewer-me9r01277\" tabindex=\"-1\">\n<div class=\"P6mo- _7k6wN\">\n<figure class=\"DV6ZG\" data-hook=\"figure-IMAGE\">\n<div data-hook=\"image-viewer\" class=\"PL-yc\">\n<div class=\"NId5Q JgRRN K83FX\" style=\"--dim-height:630;--dim-width:1200;--ricos-image-default-border-color:unset\" data-hook=\"image-viewer-me9r01277\">\n<div class=\"Yh363\">\n<div style=\"position:absolute;top:0;left:0;right:0;bottom:0\" id=\"me9r01277\" class=\"bISSq\"><wow-image id=\"9e76f4_4b8c5711559846efb03447ad51f9d4e3~mv2.png\" class=\"undefined fOHIt\" data-image-info=\"{&quot;containerId&quot;:&quot;me9r01277&quot;,&quot;alignType&quot;:&quot;center&quot;,&quot;displayMode&quot;:&quot;fill&quot;,&quot;isLQIP&quot;:true,&quot;isSEOBot&quot;:false,&quot;lqipTransition&quot;:&quot;blur&quot;,&quot;encoding&quot;:&quot;AVIF&quot;,&quot;imageData&quot;:{&quot;width&quot;:1200,&quot;height&quot;:630,&quot;uri&quot;:&quot;9e76f4_4b8c5711559846efb03447ad51f9d4e3~mv2.png&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;displayMode&quot;:&quot;fill&quot;}}\" data-motion-part=\"BG_IMG me9r01277\" data-bg-effect-name=\"\" data-has-ssr-src=\"https:\/\/www.godlessmom.com\/post\/true\" data-animate-blur=\"\" data-is-responsive=\"https:\/\/www.godlessmom.com\/post\/true\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Amanda Frances Called Her Church a Cult on National TV. She's Right.\" style=\"width:100%;height:100%;object-fit:cover;object-position:50% 50%;max-width:100%;position:absolute;left:0;top:0\" src=\"https:\/\/www.godlessmom.com\/post\/amanda-frances-church-cult\" data-pin-media=\"https:\/\/static.wixstatic.com\/media\/9e76f4_4b8c5711559846efb03447ad51f9d4e3~mv2.png\/v1\/fill\/w_1200,h_630,al_c,q_90\/9e76f4_4b8c5711559846efb03447ad51f9d4e3~mv2.png\" draggable=\"false\"\/><\/wow-image><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><button class=\"gwPaG\" type=\"button\" data-hook=\"image-expand-button\" aria-label=\"Expand image\"><svg xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" viewbox=\"0 0 19 19\" class=\"opTxr\"><path d=\"M15.071 8.371V4.585l-4.355 4.356a.2.2 0 0 1-.283 0l-.374-.374a.2.2 0 0 1 0-.283l4.356-4.355h-3.786a.2.2 0 0 1-.2-.2V3.2c0-.11.09-.2.2-.2H16v5.371a.2.2 0 0 1-.2.2h-.529a.2.2 0 0 1-.2-.2zm-6.5 6.9v.529a.2.2 0 0 1-.2.2H3v-5.371c0-.11.09-.2.2-.2h.529c.11 0 .2.09.2.2v3.786l4.355-4.356a.2.2 0 0 1 .283 0l.374.374a.2.2 0 0 1 0 .283L4.585 15.07h3.786c.11 0 .2.09.2.2z\" fill=\"#000\" fill-rule=\"nonzero\"\/><\/svg><\/button><\/div>\n<\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-breakout=\"normal\">\n<p class=\"vVP7K aoX-4 K3gHo gR5w2\" dir=\"auto\" id=\"viewer-aq2ta1409\" tabindex=\"-1\"><span class=\"AKCE3\"><span>Note: <\/span><em style=\"font-style:italic\"><span>I\u2019ve written about religious trauma, cult dynamics, and <\/span><\/em><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.godlessmom.com\/product-page\/don-t-panic-but-you-might-be-an-atheist-by-courtney-heard\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" class=\"_7gGcq aaKR9\" data-hook=\"web-link\"><em style=\"font-style:italic\"><u style=\"text-decoration:underline\"><span>deconstruction<\/span><\/u><\/em><\/a><em style=\"font-style:italic\"><span> for over a decade. This piece looks at why Amanda Frances calling her former church a cult matters, and why mainstream religious abuse still gets minimized.<\/span><\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div data-breakout=\"normal\">\n<p class=\"vVP7K aoX-4 K3gHo gR5w2\" dir=\"auto\" id=\"viewer-xujc918562\" tabindex=\"-1\"><span class=\"AKCE3\"><span>Twelve years. Twelve goddamn years of writing about high-control religion and cult dynamics and the very specific kind of damage that happens when you hand a human brain to an authority figure with a persecution complex and a collection plate, and I&#8217;ve watched it bounce off the public consciousness like a gospel pamphlet bouncing off my SuperAtheist force field. <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div data-breakout=\"normal\">\n<p class=\"vVP7K aoX-4 K3gHo gR5w2\" dir=\"auto\" id=\"viewer-gcd0e245726\" tabindex=\"-1\"><span class=\"AKCE3\"><span>Twelve years of screaming into the particular void that is religious trauma discourse, watching people&#8217;s eyes go soft and distant the moment you use the word cult about anything with stained glass and a functioning boiler room. But trust Bravo \u2014 BRAVO \u2014 to one-up twelve years of my entire writing career and announce it to a global audience on a network show about rich women in LA who argue about pasta and <\/span><em style=\"font-style:italic\"><span>owning it<\/span><\/em><span>.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div data-breakout=\"normal\">\n<p class=\"vVP7K aoX-4 K3gHo gR5w2\" dir=\"auto\" id=\"viewer-2zi6n245672\" tabindex=\"-1\"><span class=\"AKCE3\"><span>I&#8217;m not even mad. I&#8217;m a little proud of Bravo, actually.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div data-breakout=\"normal\">\n<p class=\"vVP7K aoX-4 K3gHo gR5w2\" dir=\"auto\" id=\"viewer-vmu9u45642\" tabindex=\"-1\"><span class=\"AKCE3\"><span>Amanda Frances was right to call her former church a cult on the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills because cult dynamics are about control, punishment for questioning, and what it costs you to leave and it is never about whether the building looks normal from the outside. Let&#8217;s take a closer look.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><h2 class=\"FTlfa g5Toz K3gHo gR5w2\" dir=\"auto\" data-ricos-heading=\"7on6x22161\" id=\"viewer-7on6x22161\" tabindex=\"-1\"><span aria-hidden=\"https:\/\/www.godlessmom.com\/post\/true\" id=\"who-is-amanda-frances-7on6x221\"\/><span class=\"YhYpl\"><span>Who is Amanda Frances? <\/span><\/span><\/h2>\n<\/p>\n<div data-breakout=\"normal\">\n<p class=\"vVP7K aoX-4 K3gHo gR5w2\" dir=\"auto\" id=\"viewer-gxqzo245674\" tabindex=\"-1\"><span class=\"AKCE3\"><span>For the uninitiated: Amanda Frances is the new housewife on this season of the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. She&#8217;s a money mindset coach (which is what happens when prosperity gospel gets a spray tan, a ring light, and a sales funnel), she has bangin&#8217; hair and the polished, high-gloss energy of a woman who could sell abundance to an IRS auditor mid-collections call. <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div data-breakout=\"normal\">\n<p class=\"vVP7K aoX-4 K3gHo gR5w2\" dir=\"auto\" id=\"viewer-nhawc245880\" tabindex=\"-1\"><span class=\"AKCE3\"><span>But before all that \u2014 before the manifestation retreats and the Rich as F*ck empire \u2014 she spent two years in her early twenties inside a church she describes, correctly, as a cult. <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div data-breakout=\"normal\">\n<p class=\"vVP7K aoX-4 K3gHo gR5w2\" dir=\"auto\" id=\"viewer-1uvvv13372\" tabindex=\"-1\"><span class=\"AKCE3\"><span>There\u2019s something uniquely American about taking a twenty-something in Florida, a place practically engineered for bad choices, warm beer, and catastrophic romance, and stuffing them into a church regime where every normal human impulse gets treated like a live hand grenade. No dating. No drinking. No honest contact with home unless you wanted it rerouted through guilt and control. They weren\u2019t just managing her behaviour. They were trying to fumigate the human right out of her. Strip the wiring, bleach the instincts, and leave behind one of those eerie smiling church girls who says she\u2019s \u201cat peace\u201d while looking like she hasn\u2019t taken a full breath since the fucking Bush administration.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div data-breakout=\"normal\">\n<p class=\"vVP7K aoX-4 K3gHo gR5w2\" dir=\"auto\" id=\"viewer-6l9wl245982\" tabindex=\"-1\"><span class=\"AKCE3\"><span>Understandably, this would not do for Amanda. She finally shoved everything she owned into her car on Halloween night (because apparently even her escape had the instincts of a gothic novelist) and drove to her sister&#8217;s.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><h2 class=\"FTlfa g5Toz K3gHo gR5w2\" dir=\"auto\" data-ricos-heading=\"7sgze23869\" id=\"viewer-7sgze23869\" tabindex=\"-1\"><span aria-hidden=\"https:\/\/www.godlessmom.com\/post\/true\" id=\"years-later-on-rhobh-7sgze238\"\/><span class=\"YhYpl\"><span>Years Later, On RHOBH&#8230;<\/span><\/span><\/h2>\n<\/p>\n<div data-breakout=\"normal\">\n<p class=\"vVP7K aoX-4 K3gHo gR5w2\" dir=\"auto\" id=\"viewer-v00lz245676\" tabindex=\"-1\"><span class=\"AKCE3\"><span>Dorit Kemsley&#8217;s response to learning this was, apparently, to file it away for later use.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div data-breakout=\"normal\">\n<p class=\"vVP7K aoX-4 K3gHo gR5w2\" dir=\"auto\" id=\"viewer-lfkfj245678\" tabindex=\"-1\"><span class=\"AKCE3\"><span>Let me park the car here for a moment because I need you to appreciate the full architecture of what that means: <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div data-breakout=\"normal\">\n<p class=\"vVP7K aoX-4 K3gHo gR5w2\" dir=\"auto\" id=\"viewer-gksv2247215\" tabindex=\"-1\"><span class=\"AKCE3\"><span>A woman disclosed two years of psychological manipulation, isolation, and <\/span><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.godlessmom.com\/post\/religious-trauma-syndrome-phantom-pew-part-1\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" class=\"_7gGcq aaKR9\" data-hook=\"web-link\"><u style=\"text-decoration:underline\"><span>religious abuse<\/span><\/u><\/a><span>, the kind that rewires actual brain chemistry in ways researchers are still mapping, and another woman, a fully grown adult human who has herself disclosed various traumas on this same cursed tele novella from hell, heard every word of that and thought: <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div data-breakout=\"normal\">\n<p class=\"vVP7K aoX-4 K3gHo gR5w2\" dir=\"auto\" id=\"viewer-ofmzk630\" tabindex=\"-1\"><span class=\"AKCE3\"><em style=\"font-style:italic\"><span>Interesting. I&#8217;ll keep that.<\/span><\/em><span>\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div data-breakout=\"normal\">\n<p class=\"vVP7K aoX-4 K3gHo gR5w2\" dir=\"auto\" id=\"viewer-qtg40687\" tabindex=\"-1\"><span class=\"AKCE3\"><span>She tucked it away. Mentally scribbled, <\/span><em style=\"font-style:italic\"><span>Amanda Frances church was a cult<\/span><\/em><span>, and tossed it in the back of her mind like a crumpled receipt at the bottom of a Birkin bag. Like a screenshot you save because someone just ain&#8217;t rubbin&#8217; you right. <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div data-breakout=\"normal\">\n<p class=\"vVP7K aoX-4 K3gHo gR5w2\" dir=\"auto\" id=\"viewer-7cnem3447\" tabindex=\"-1\"><span class=\"AKCE3\"><span>She pulled it out at a dinner table, in front of cameras, in 2026, like it was a photo of her shitzu&#8217;s quincea\u00f1era and not a person&#8217;s worst years.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div data-breakout=\"normal\">\n<p class=\"vVP7K aoX-4 K3gHo gR5w2\" dir=\"auto\" id=\"viewer-ezovb245682\" tabindex=\"-1\"><span class=\"AKCE3\"><span>The audacity would be impressive if it weren&#8217;t so perfectly on-brand for exactly how the world treats religious abuse.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><h2 class=\"FTlfa g5Toz K3gHo gR5w2\" dir=\"auto\" data-ricos-heading=\"l988z29326\" id=\"viewer-l988z29326\" tabindex=\"-1\"><span aria-hidden=\"https:\/\/www.godlessmom.com\/post\/true\" id=\"this-is-why-cult-was-the-right-word-l988z293\"\/><span class=\"YhYpl\"><span>This Is Why \u201cCult\u201d Was the Right Word<\/span><\/span><\/h2>\n<\/p>\n<div data-breakout=\"normal\">\n<p class=\"vVP7K aoX-4 K3gHo gR5w2\" dir=\"auto\" id=\"viewer-xebji245684\" tabindex=\"-1\"><span class=\"AKCE3\"><span>Now. Here is what actually makes something a cult, and I am telling you for the last time and also the fiftieth time since 2014: it is NEVER about the beliefs. Whether they baptize by sprinkling or full submersion, whether the communion wafers are gluten-free, whether the worship band plays original compositions or just an absolutely unhinged eleven-minute cover of Oceans because the Spirit is REALLY moving tonight and the drummer has just completely lost the plot. It&#8217;s irrelevant, all of it, decorative, window display. <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div data-breakout=\"normal\">\n<p class=\"vVP7K aoX-4 K3gHo gR5w2\" dir=\"auto\" id=\"viewer-ryntu4649\" tabindex=\"-1\"><span class=\"AKCE3\"><span>What you&#8217;re looking for is underneath:  Can you question the person at the top?  Can you actually leave? And if you do, what does it cost you? Your friends? Your family? Your entire internal operating system for understanding who you are and what reality is?<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div data-breakout=\"normal\">\n<p class=\"vVP7K aoX-4 K3gHo gR5w2\" dir=\"auto\" id=\"viewer-dy11p5046\" tabindex=\"-1\"><span class=\"AKCE3\"><span>If you&#8217;re nodding right now, it&#8217;s not because of Amanda Frances.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div data-breakout=\"normal\">\n<p class=\"vVP7K aoX-4 K3gHo gR5w2\" dir=\"auto\" id=\"viewer-oyhys245688\" tabindex=\"-1\"><span class=\"AKCE3\"><span>Mainstream churches have been running this exact playbook since before your grandmother was heels up on her wedding night and they&#8217;ve been getting away with it because the congregation is too large and too respectable and too embedded in the community infrastructure for anyone to say the word out loud without being called hysterical. At fifty members it&#8217;s a cult. At five thousand it&#8217;s a megachurch with a goddamned podcast, a Twitch stream, and a Wednesday night Bible group called something like Ignite or Elevate or The Thrive Collective or whatever gerund felt most aspirational to whoever the fuck designed the logo in 2019. <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div data-breakout=\"normal\">\n<p class=\"vVP7K aoX-4 K3gHo gR5w2\" dir=\"auto\" id=\"viewer-1vm447016\" tabindex=\"-1\"><span class=\"AKCE3\"><span>The methodology is identical. The branding is the only thing that changed.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div data-breakout=\"normal\">\n<div class=\"JglCJ\" id=\"viewer-3j5nq29695\" tabindex=\"-1\">\n<div class=\"P6mo- _7k6wN\">\n<figure class=\"DV6ZG\" data-hook=\"figure-IMAGE\">\n<div data-hook=\"image-viewer\" class=\"PL-yc\">\n<div class=\"NId5Q JgRRN K83FX\" style=\"--dim-height:383;--dim-width:681;--ricos-image-default-border-color:unset\" data-hook=\"image-viewer-3j5nq29695\">\n<div class=\"Yh363\">\n<div style=\"position:absolute;top:0;left:0;right:0;bottom:0\" id=\"3j5nq29695\" class=\"bISSq\"><wow-image id=\"9e76f4_a5aca2be31ae41a79033b1052bfb13ec~mv2.webp\" class=\"undefined fOHIt\" data-image-info=\"{&quot;containerId&quot;:&quot;3j5nq29695&quot;,&quot;alignType&quot;:&quot;center&quot;,&quot;displayMode&quot;:&quot;fill&quot;,&quot;isLQIP&quot;:true,&quot;isSEOBot&quot;:false,&quot;lqipTransition&quot;:&quot;blur&quot;,&quot;encoding&quot;:&quot;AVIF&quot;,&quot;imageData&quot;:{&quot;width&quot;:681,&quot;height&quot;:383,&quot;uri&quot;:&quot;9e76f4_a5aca2be31ae41a79033b1052bfb13ec~mv2.webp&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;displayMode&quot;:&quot;fill&quot;}}\" data-motion-part=\"BG_IMG 3j5nq29695\" data-bg-effect-name=\"\" data-has-ssr-src=\"https:\/\/www.godlessmom.com\/post\/true\" data-animate-blur=\"\" data-is-responsive=\"https:\/\/www.godlessmom.com\/post\/true\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Amanda Frances church cult discussion on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills\" style=\"width:100%;height:100%;object-fit:cover;object-position:50% 50%;max-width:100%;position:absolute;left:0;top:0\" src=\"https:\/\/www.godlessmom.com\/post\/amanda-frances-church-cult\" data-pin-media=\"https:\/\/static.wixstatic.com\/media\/9e76f4_a5aca2be31ae41a79033b1052bfb13ec~mv2.webp\/v1\/fill\/w_817,h_460,al_c,lg_1,q_85\/9e76f4_a5aca2be31ae41a79033b1052bfb13ec~mv2.webp\" draggable=\"false\"\/><\/wow-image><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><button class=\"gwPaG\" type=\"button\" data-hook=\"image-expand-button\" aria-label=\"Expand image\"><svg xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" viewbox=\"0 0 19 19\" class=\"opTxr\"><path d=\"M15.071 8.371V4.585l-4.355 4.356a.2.2 0 0 1-.283 0l-.374-.374a.2.2 0 0 1 0-.283l4.356-4.355h-3.786a.2.2 0 0 1-.2-.2V3.2c0-.11.09-.2.2-.2H16v5.371a.2.2 0 0 1-.2.2h-.529a.2.2 0 0 1-.2-.2zm-6.5 6.9v.529a.2.2 0 0 1-.2.2H3v-5.371c0-.11.09-.2.2-.2h.529c.11 0 .2.09.2.2v3.786l4.355-4.356a.2.2 0 0 1 .283 0l.374.374a.2.2 0 0 1 0 .283L4.585 15.07h3.786c.11 0 .2.09.2.2z\" fill=\"#000\" fill-rule=\"nonzero\"\/><\/svg><\/button><\/div>\n<div class=\"JglCJ\" id=\"viewer-o8arv29732\" tabindex=\"-1\">\n<p><figcaption class=\"As8Wh\" style=\"padding-top:16px;padding-bottom:16px\"><span>The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills<\/span><\/figcaption><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-breakout=\"normal\">\n<p class=\"vVP7K aoX-4 K3gHo gR5w2\" dir=\"auto\" id=\"viewer-yjiv629979\" tabindex=\"-1\"><span class=\"AKCE3\"><span>Amanda has been writing about this since 2011. She put it in her book. She gave the interviews. She processed fifteen years of it publicly and in 2026 it still got deployed as dinner table ammunition by a woman in a dress she will only ever wear once. <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div data-breakout=\"normal\">\n<p class=\"vVP7K aoX-4 K3gHo gR5w2\" dir=\"auto\" id=\"viewer-0fe2l21745\" tabindex=\"-1\"><span class=\"AKCE3\"><span>Not as something that happened to a person. <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div data-breakout=\"normal\">\n<p class=\"vVP7K aoX-4 K3gHo gR5w2\" dir=\"auto\" id=\"viewer-bfkif22161\" tabindex=\"-1\"><span class=\"AKCE3\"><span>As a card you play when you&#8217;re losing. Like trauma is just currency you liquidate when you need to win a point.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><h2 class=\"FTlfa g5Toz K3gHo gR5w2\" dir=\"auto\" data-ricos-heading=\"5huas20081\" id=\"viewer-5huas20081\" tabindex=\"-1\"><span aria-hidden=\"https:\/\/www.godlessmom.com\/post\/true\" id=\"why-you-should-care-about-amanda-frances-saying-cult-5huas200\"\/><span class=\"YhYpl\"><span>Why You Should Care About Amanda Frances Saying \u201cCult\u201d<\/span><\/span><\/h2>\n<\/p>\n<div data-breakout=\"normal\">\n<p class=\"vVP7K aoX-4 K3gHo gR5w2\" dir=\"auto\" id=\"viewer-axhkj245694\" tabindex=\"-1\"><span class=\"AKCE3\"><span>We do this with religious abuse in a way we do not do with anything else. Say you left a controlling relationship and the room goes quiet and respectful. Say you <\/span><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.godlessmom.com\/post\/books-for-leaving-religion\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" class=\"_7gGcq aaKR9\" data-hook=\"web-link\"><u style=\"text-decoration:underline\"><span>left a controlling church<\/span><\/u><\/a><span> and somewhere, someone is already calculating whether that makes you unstable, or dramatic, or the kind of person who probably just couldn&#8217;t handle a bit of structure.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div data-breakout=\"normal\">\n<p class=\"vVP7K aoX-4 K3gHo gR5w2\" dir=\"auto\" id=\"viewer-7x2n0245696\" tabindex=\"-1\"><span class=\"AKCE3\"><span>There are people reading this right now who still won\u2019t use the word <\/span><em style=\"font-style:italic\"><span>cult<\/span><\/em><span>\u00a0for what they lived through because it all appeared too normal. There was a parking lot. There were potlucks. The pastor wore jeans. The worship leader had a beard and an acoustic guitar and a whole TED Talk thing going on. The youth group did volunteer days and somebody\u2019s mom made baked ziti and from the outside it all looked so aggressively ordinary that even now, saying the word <\/span><em style=\"font-style:italic\"><span>abuse<\/span><\/em><span>\u00a0can feel theatrical.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div data-breakout=\"normal\">\n<p class=\"vVP7K aoX-4 K3gHo gR5w2\" dir=\"auto\" id=\"viewer-aj06x22204\" tabindex=\"-1\"><span class=\"AKCE3\"><span>That\u2019s exactly how religious abuse gets away with murder. <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div data-breakout=\"normal\">\n<p class=\"vVP7K aoX-4 K3gHo gR5w2\" dir=\"auto\" id=\"viewer-4swk937372\" tabindex=\"-1\"><span class=\"AKCE3\"><em style=\"font-style:italic\"><span>Did your church look normal from the outside?<\/span><\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div data-breakout=\"normal\">\n<p class=\"vVP7K aoX-4 K3gHo gR5w2\" dir=\"auto\" id=\"viewer-slss922206\" tabindex=\"-1\"><span class=\"AKCE3\"><span>We treat it like it only counts if it comes with a compound, a charismatic man with six wives, and a Netflix docuseries that&#8217;s trending on Bluesky. If it happens under fluorescent lights in a fellowship hall with bad coffee and a bulletin board for the women\u2019s retreat, we call it \u201ca tough church experience.\u201d We call it \u201churt feelings.\u201d We call it \u201cgetting offended.\u201d We will use literally any phrase in the English language before we admit that a whole lot of mainstream religion runs on the same machinery as every other coercive system: control, fear, isolation, obedience, and punishment for noncompliance.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div data-breakout=\"normal\">\n<div class=\"JglCJ\" id=\"viewer-6a157ccd-8c66-8a17-50e5-5e7b7da111c1\" tabindex=\"-1\">\n<div class=\"P6mo- _7k6wN WAS-R\">\n<div class=\"_1LDpJ\" data-hook=\"vertical-embed\" data-url=\"https:\/\/www.wix.app\/stores\/e3b40976-1dd5-434c-a65e-f226eabeb710\/catalog\/6a157ccd-8c66-8a17-50e5-5e7b7da111c1?d=https:\/\/www.godlessmom.com\/product-page\/don-t-panic-but-you-might-be-an-atheist-by-courtney-heard\" style=\"--vertical-embed-background-color:#00062400;--vertical-embed-border-color:#CFD1DC;--vertical-embed-border-width:1px;--vertical-embed-border-radius:20px;--vertical-embed-content-padding:18px;--vertical-embed-button-fill-color:#121212;--vertical-embed-button-border-radius:10px;--vertical-embed-button-font-size:14px;--vertical-embed-button-padding:12px;--vertical-embed-image-border-color:#FFFFFF;--vertical-embed-image-border-width:10px;--vertical-embed-image-border-radius:20px;--vertical-embed-ribbon-border-radius:16px\" tabindex=\"0\" role=\"button\" aria-label=\"Don\u2019t Panic, But You Might Be an Atheist E-Book by Courtney Heard\" title=\"Don\u2019t Panic, But You Might Be an Atheist E-Book by Courtney Heard\">\n<div style=\"direction:ltr\" class=\"xlc61 lfd-J j6l34 UMsgC _6vVeM\">\n<div class=\"ymlxY Z239P NhYTo\">\n<div class=\"o7-Rg\">\n<div class=\"ePm5g\">\n<p>Don\u2019t Panic, But You Might Be an Atheist E-Book by Courtney Heard<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"enpR2 YjIp1\">$14.99<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-breakout=\"normal\">\n<p class=\"vVP7K aoX-4 K3gHo gR5w2\" dir=\"auto\" id=\"viewer-9poqf3044\" tabindex=\"-1\"><span class=\"AKCE3\"><span>That\u2019s the real reason Amanda saying it out loud on television matters. Not because Bravo suddenly became a trauma-informed public service, Cheeses forbid, but because religious abuse almost never gets treated with the weight it deserves. You know it&#8217;s true. It gets downgraded, softened, filed under \u201cmessy\u201d or \u201ccomplicated\u201d or \u201cwell, every church is different.\u201d People hear <\/span><em style=\"font-style:italic\"><span>church<\/span><\/em><span>\u00a0and their brains supply potlucks, parking lots, and a pastor in sneakers. They do not picture a system getting inside somebody\u2019s head and teaching them to distrust their own instincts for fifteen years after the escape.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div data-breakout=\"normal\">\n<p class=\"vVP7K aoX-4 K3gHo gR5w2\" dir=\"auto\" id=\"viewer-jg5lb22212\" tabindex=\"-1\"><span class=\"AKCE3\"><span>But that\u2019s what it does. And when someone finally says, <\/span><em style=\"font-style:italic\"><span>No, that was a cult,<\/span><\/em><span>\u00a0the world\u2019s first impulse is still to check the branding before it believes them.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div data-breakout=\"normal\">\n<p class=\"vVP7K aoX-4 K3gHo gR5w2\" dir=\"auto\" id=\"viewer-btdbd22216\" tabindex=\"-1\"><span class=\"AKCE3\"><span>So no, the parking lot is not the test. The potluck is not the test. The pastor\u2019s relaxed little denim vibe is not the test. 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