{"id":7051224,"date":"2026-08-29T21:58:31","date_gmt":"2026-08-29T21:58:31","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/peraltafinancing.com\/uncategorized\/made-for-more-refusing-to-settle-for-less-than-gods-best-with-julie-lefebure\/"},"modified":"2026-08-29T21:58:31","modified_gmt":"2026-08-29T21:58:31","slug":"made-for-more-refusing-to-settle-for-less-than-gods-best-with-julie-lefebure","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/fivemor.com\/?p=7051224","title":{"rendered":"Made for More: Refusing to Settle for Less Than God&#8217;s Best with Julie Lefebure"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div>\n<p>\t\t\t\t<!--powerpress_player--><\/p>\n<p><meta itemprop=\"name\" content=\"Made for More: Refusing to Settle for Less Than God\u2019s Best with Julie Lefebure\"\/><meta itemprop=\"uploadDate\" content=\"2026-08-25T07:30:00-04:00\"\/><meta itemprop=\"encodingFormat\" content=\"audio\/mpeg\"\/><meta itemprop=\"duration\" content=\"PT42M18S\"\/><meta itemprop=\"description\" content=\"&#10;Welcome to the Fierce Calling Podcast, where we explore how God uses our stories\u2014especially our hardest seasons and deepest passions\u2014to call us into His purpose. I\u2019m your host, Doris Swift, and today I\u2019m joined by Julie Lefebure: author, speaker, me...\"\/><meta itemprop=\"contentUrl\" content=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/fiercecallingpodcast\/content.blubrry.com\/fiercecallingpodcast\/Julie_LeFebure_final_version_ready_to_publish.mp3\"\/><meta itemprop=\"contentSize\" content=\"38.8\"\/><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/player.blubrry.com\/?podcast_id=155092880&amp;media_url=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia.blubrry.com%2Ffiercecallingpodcast%2Fcontent.blubrry.com%2Ffiercecallingpodcast%2FJulie_LeFebure_final_version_ready_to_publish.mp3#mode-Light&amp;border-000000&amp;progress-000000\" scrolling=\"no\" width=\"100%\" height=\"165\" frameborder=\"0\" id=\"blubrryplayer-1\" class=\"blubrryplayer\" title=\"Blubrry Podcast Player\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/fiercecallingpodcast\/content.blubrry.com\/fiercecallingpodcast\/Julie_LeFebure_final_version_ready_to_publish.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/dorisswift.com\/?powerpress_pinw=43053-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/fiercecallingpodcast\/content.blubrry.com\/fiercecallingpodcast\/Julie_LeFebure_final_version_ready_to_publish.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"Julie_LeFebure_final_version_ready_to_publish.mp3\">Download<\/a> (Duration: 42:18 \u2014 38.8MB) | <a href=\"#\" class=\"powerpress_link_e\" title=\"Embed\" onclick=\"return powerpress_show_embed('43053-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Embed<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe:  | <a href=\"https:\/\/dorisswift.com\/subscribe-to-podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_more\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"More\" rel=\"nofollow\">More<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Welcome to the Fierce Calling Podcast, where we explore how God uses our stories\u2014especially our hardest seasons and deepest passions\u2014to call us into His purpose. I\u2019m your host, Doris Swift, and today I\u2019m joined by Julie Lefebure: author, speaker, mentor, and host of the Encouragement for Real Life podcast. Julie Lefebure shares her journey of encouraging women to refuse to settle for less than God\u2019s best, and how her most recent book, <em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.julielefebure.com\/made-for-more\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Made for More: 365 Devotions for the Woman Who Refuses to Settle<\/a><\/em>, grew out of her desire to help women live abundantly and embrace their unique callings.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">We\u2019ll dig into the power of beginnings, the significance of the everyday, and how to discern and step into your calling, even when it feels insignificant or unclear. Julie Lefebure offers encouragement for anyone feeling stuck, questioning their purpose, or believing the lie that they have nothing to offer. Get ready for an uplifting conversation filled with faith, practical encouragement, and a reminder that God truly cares about every detail of your life.<\/p>\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">\ud83d\udca1 Episode Highlights &amp; Key Takeaways<\/h3>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Julie Lefebure\u2019s Story and Her Fierce Calling<\/h2>\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Journey from secular work to full-time ministry (04:00-05:22)<\/li>\n<li>Passion for helping and encouraging women<\/li>\n<li>The calling to help women see they are made for more (05:11)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">The Concept of \u201cRefusing to Settle\u201d<\/h2>\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Meaning of refusing to settle and its biblical significance (06:12-08:12)\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Personal story: questioning if \u201cthis is all there is\u201d<\/li>\n<li>Reference to John 10:10 and abundant life<\/li>\n<li>Distinction between abundance in God vs. material abundance<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Structure and Focus of the Devotional Book<\/h2>\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Format of the devotional: short daily readings with scripture and reflection prompts (08:33-09:15)<\/li>\n<li>Example topic from the book: \u201cFind Beauty in the Beginning\u201d\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Importance of valuing the process and early steps (09:18-10:26)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">The Value of Beginnings and Taking Time with God<\/h2>\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Parallels to scriptural truths about new beginnings (11:10-12:12)<\/li>\n<li>Benefits of daily rhythms and meditating on the Word<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Expansion of Julie Lefebure\u2019s Ministry<\/h2>\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Launch and impact of her podcast (13:01-14:46)<\/li>\n<li>Development of a mentoring program, \u201cAbundant Life Mentoring\u201d\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Difference between mentoring and coaching<\/li>\n<li>Emphasis on personal connection and discipleship (15:56-16:57)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Encouragement about Stepping Out in Faith<\/h2>\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Stories of how each began podcasting (17:07-18:41)<\/li>\n<li>Overcoming fear of imperfection and possible failure<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">The Significance of Mentoring and Discipleship<\/h2>\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Clarification of what mentoring looks like (20:31-21:01)<\/li>\n<li>Focus on walking alongside women personally<\/li>\n<li>Comparison with coaching and counseling<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">The Genesis of the Devotional Book<\/h2>\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Inspiration: summer podcast series \u201cSummer of Abundance\u201d (21:38-23:01)<\/li>\n<li>Incorporation of podcast material into the book<\/li>\n<li>Writing process and the importance of serving women\u2019s needs<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Importance of Biblical Foundation in Resources for Women<\/h2>\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>The necessity of basing books and mentoring on scriptural truth (24:30-25:06)<\/li>\n<li>Avoiding self-help trends disconnected from the Bible<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Recognizing What God Has Already Given Us<\/h2>\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Encouragement to notice gifts, experiences, and opportunities already in hand (25:35-26:10)<\/li>\n<li>God\u2019s unique plan and personal purpose for each woman<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Addressing Feelings of Insignificance and Calling<\/h2>\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Reframing the idea of calling and everyday faithfulness (30:53-32:31)\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>God\u2019s direction in daily life<\/li>\n<li>Joy as an indicator of calling and gifting<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Embracing Unique Paths and Overcoming Comparison<\/h2>\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Importance of not comparing oneself to others (34:03-36:08)<\/li>\n<li>Examples of unique contributions in writing and podcasting<\/li>\n<li>Assurance that God uses everyone\u2019s perspective<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Commitment to Biblical Truth and Discernment<\/h2>\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Reiterating the Bible as the ultimate source (37:05-37:54)<\/li>\n<li>Necessity of testing all teaching and books against scripture<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Final Encouragement and Practical Next Steps<\/h2>\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Assurance of God\u2019s care for every detail (37:56-39:21)<\/li>\n<li>Visualizing \u201chanding over\u201d burdens to God<\/li>\n<li>Steps to walking in abundant life and trusting God<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">How to Connect with Julie Lefebure and Access Resources<\/h2>\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Website, social media, and book availability (39:22-39:54)<\/li>\n<li>Summary of ways to follow and engage<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Closing Thoughts from Doris <\/h2>\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Importance of knowing God\u2019s character through scripture (40:25-41:44)<\/li>\n<li>Encouragement to seek God personally, especially when struggling with past hurt or doubt<\/li>\n<li>Invitation to future episodes and closing the show<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">\ud83e\udd1d Connect with Julie!<\/h3>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">You can connect with Julie at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.julielefebure.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">julielefebure.com<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Plus, you\u2019ll find real-life encouragement in a variety of ways on Julie\u2019s website:<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">You can also find her on Instagram <a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/julielefebure\/\">julielefebure<\/a>, X <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/JulieLefebure\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">@JulieLefebure<\/a>, Facebook <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/Julie-Lefebure-1069758393166052\/\">Julie Lefebure<\/a>, and on Pinterest\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.pinterest.com\/julielefebure\/\">@julielefebure<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Julie is a big fan of sunrises and sunsets, appreciates unrushed mornings, and loves eating outdoors. I love all of that, too! How about you?<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">She\u2019s wife to Bill, and on any given day you might find them on their tandem bicycle enjoying adventures together. They have a goal to bike in each of the 50 states! They\u2019ve participated in\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.ragbrai.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">RAGBRAI<\/a>\u00a0six times, and they are empty-nesters looking  forward to growing old together.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Julie Lefebure<\/strong> is a writer, speaker, and Abundant Life Mentor who encourages women to live with intention and experience the abundant life Jesus promises. She is the author of <em>Made for More<\/em>,<em> Right Now Matters<\/em>, and the <em>Right Now Matters Bible Study<\/em>, and the host of the Encouragement for Real Life Podcast. Through her words and work, Julie helps women slow down, stay present in the moment, and live from truth instead of pressure, comparison, or fear. Find Julie at\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/julielefebure.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">julielefebure.com<\/a>.<\/p>\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">\ud83d\ude4f Remember, Friend, That Your Story Matters!<\/h3>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">As always, remember\u2014your journey, your fierce calling, and your honest story can comfort and encourage others. Where can you share your experiences this week?<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Grace and peace,<br \/>Doris <br \/>Host, Fierce Calling Podcast<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">What Threatens to Steal Your Joy?<\/h2>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter is-resized\"><a href=\"https:\/\/dorisswift.com\/book\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1511\" height=\"1601\" data-attachment-id=\"41725\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/dorisswift.com\/2023\/10\/03\/the-power-of-scripture-inspired-prayer-with-brooke-mcglothlin-of-million-praying-moms\/img_8449-2\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/dorisswift.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/IMG_8449.jpg?fit=1511%2C1601&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1511,1601\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"IMG_8449\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/dorisswift.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/IMG_8449.jpg?fit=644%2C682&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/dorisswift.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/IMG_8449.jpg?resize=644%2C682&amp;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-41725\" style=\"width:402px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/dorisswift.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/IMG_8449.jpg?w=1511&amp;ssl=1 1511w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/dorisswift.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/IMG_8449.jpg?resize=283%2C300&amp;ssl=1 283w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/dorisswift.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/IMG_8449.jpg?resize=644%2C682&amp;ssl=1 644w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/dorisswift.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/IMG_8449.jpg?resize=768%2C814&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/dorisswift.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/IMG_8449.jpg?resize=1450%2C1536&amp;ssl=1 1450w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/dorisswift.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/IMG_8449.jpg?resize=610%2C646&amp;ssl=1 610w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/dorisswift.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/IMG_8449.jpg?resize=1080%2C1144&amp;ssl=1 1080w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/dorisswift.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/IMG_8449.jpg?resize=1280%2C1356&amp;ssl=1 1280w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/dorisswift.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/IMG_8449.jpg?resize=980%2C1038&amp;ssl=1 980w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/dorisswift.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/IMG_8449.jpg?resize=480%2C509&amp;ssl=1 480w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1080px) 100vw, 1080px\"\/><\/a><\/figure>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Check out Surrender the Joy Stealers: Rediscover the Jesus Joy in You 6-week Bible study rooted in John 15. You can find more info at\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/dorisswift.com\/book\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">https:\/\/dorisswift.com\/book\/<\/a><\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter is-resized\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Surrender-Joy-Stealers-Rediscover-Jesus\/dp\/1649499248\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><img decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"41954\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/dorisswift.com\/2024\/06\/04\/detoured-and-disrupted-finding-gods-peace-in-our-unexpected-journeys-with-jen-babakhan\/now-available-100-x-100-px-instagram-post-square\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/dorisswift.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/Now-Available-100-%C3%97-100-px-Instagram-Post-Square.png?fit=1080%2C1080&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1080,1080\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Now-Available-100-\u00d7-100-px-Instagram-Post-Square\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/dorisswift.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/Now-Available-100-%C3%97-100-px-Instagram-Post-Square.png?fit=644%2C644&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/dorisswift.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/Now-Available-100-%C3%97-100-px-Instagram-Post-Square.png?resize=644%2C644&amp;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-41954\" style=\"width:437px;height:auto\"\/><\/a><\/figure>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Let\u2019s Stay Connected!<\/h2>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Find my free resources including Fear Fighting Bible Verses, Simple Tips for Sharing Your Faith, Surrender the Joy Stealers,\u00a0<em>Step Out of Your Doubt and Into Your Calling ebook<\/em>, and more on my dorisswift.com\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/dorisswift.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">homepage<\/a>!<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Love Fierce Calling?<\/h2>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Did you know that following, rating, and leaving a review over at<\/strong>\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.podchaser.com\/podcasts\/fierce-calling-940415?utm_source=podcaster&amp;utm_medium=feedcta&amp;utm_campaign=DorisSwift\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Podchaser<\/a>\u00a0<strong>or Apple Podcasts helps others discover the show too<\/strong>? I would so appreciate it, friend!<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Need a Speaker for Your Next Women\u2019s Event? Conference, Tea, Christmas Event, Workshops, Retreats? I have a few dates still available in  2026, and booking for 2027 \u2013 2028!<\/h2>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Check out my\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/dorisswift.com\/speaking\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">speaking page,<\/a>\u00a0grab my flyer, and let\u2019s talk about me speaking at your next women\u2019s event\u2026<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter size-large is-resized\"><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/dorisswift.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/Speaking-2026.jpg?ssl=1\"><img loading=\"lazy\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"644\" height=\"859\" data-attachment-id=\"42985\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/dorisswift.com\/2026\/05\/26\/beyond-i-dont-know-what-to-say-navigating-grief-conversations-with-grace-with-cheri-fletcher-ep-224\/speaking-2026\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/dorisswift.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/Speaking-2026.jpg?fit=1536%2C2048&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1536,2048\" 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srcset=\"https:\/\/dorisswift.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/Speaking-retreat-644x1399.jpg 644w, https:\/\/dorisswift.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/Speaking-retreat-480x1042.jpg 480w\" sizes=\"auto, (min-width: 0px) and (max-width: 480px) 480px, (min-width: 481px) 644px, 100vw\"\/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Screenshot<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Thanks for Listening!<\/h2>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I hope this episode encouraged, inspired, and challenged you to cultivate community, live and walk in the value, purpose, and worth God gave you, and take action where your passion, compassion, and conviction intersect.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">If you\u2019re looking for a speaker for your next women\u2019s conference, retreat, luncheon, or workshop, reach out and connect with me on my speaker page at\u00a0<em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.womenspeakers.com\/florida\/edgewater\/speaker\/doris-swift\">https:\/\/www.womenspeakers.com\/florida\/edgewater\/speaker\/doris-swift<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Let\u2019s have a chat about your next event!<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Stay tuned for more amazing content and remember to check the show notes for all the links mentioned.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Thank you for being a part of our community. We are grateful for your continued support and encourage you to embrace the unique gifts that make you magnificently you.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I hope you\u2019ll join me next time when I talk with another guest who is taking action where her passion, compassion, and conviction intersect \u2026<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Until then friend, have a blessed week, and I\u2019ll talk to you soon.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">With love and joy,<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Doris<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Transcript<\/h2>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Doris Swift<\/strong> <em>[00:00:00 \u2013 00:01:29]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">What if your hardest seasons, your deepest passions, and all the things you\u2019ve walked through and are currently walking through were meant to become the very calling God has placed on your life? Welcome to the Fierce Calling Podcast. I\u2019m your host, Dara Swift, and I invite guests who are taking action where their passion, compassion, and conviction intersect and share their stories. Of faith, hard seasons, resilience, and their calling. So together we\u2019ll discover how God uses every part of our stories, and how when we say yes to Him and use our gifts to impact the world, that God can do extraordinary things in the midst of our ordinary days. And sometimes hearing someone else\u2019s yes to God is just what we need To find the courage to say yes to Him too. So my hope is that the stories you hear will encourage, inspire, and challenge you to step out and discover your own fierce calling, because your story may be the very place where God is preparing you to jump into the work He prepared in advance for you to do, and to follow Jesus in deeper and more profound ways. So yes, this is Fierce Calling. And if you\u2019re ready to discover where your passion, compassion, and conviction intersect and step out in faith to make a difference, you\u2019re in the right place, friend.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Doris Swift<\/strong> <em>[00:01:29 \u2013 00:02:16]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So listen in while I have a chat with today\u2019s guest who has a message to share with you. What is threatening to steal your joy? What is it that feels so heavy right now that you could barely stand? God has a plan, and His plan is to surrender it. Surrender it to Him. It might be a prodigal. It might be a relationship, a marriage, something with your job. So many things. We have so many amazing blessings, but there are so many things in our life that threaten to steal our joy. I\u2019m Darris Swift, author of the award-winning 6-week Bible study, Surrender the Joy Stealers: Rediscover the Jesus Joy in You.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Doris Swift<\/strong> <em>[00:02:16 \u2013 00:02:57]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And it helps women rediscover the overflowing, ever-present Jesus joy within that fills, empowers, and ripens the fruit that God produces in our lives. Using personal and biblical stories, I share how you can identify your joy stealers, surrender them to God, reawaken the joy within, and share the joy with others. You can do it on your own or with a group. If you\u2019re looking for a Bible study, check it out, friends. Surrender the Joy Stealers. Rediscover the Jesus joy in you. It\u2019s time to take your joy back. Welcome back to the show.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Doris Swift<\/strong> <em>[00:02:57 \u2013 00:03:23]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Today I\u2019m very excited to welcome my friend Julie Lefebure. We have been friends for a long time. She is Amazing. She has these books that have come out, and we\u2019re gonna talk about that. But she\u2019s an author of Right Now Matters, and her new book is Made for More: 365 Devotions for the Woman Who Refuses to Settle. Okay, let\u2019s be that woman. Okay.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Julie Lefebure<\/strong> <em>[00:03:23 \u2013 00:03:24]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Yes, ma\u2019am.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Doris Swift<\/strong> <em>[00:03:24 \u2013 00:03:36]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">She is a speaker, a mentor, and she\u2019s host of the Encouragement for Real Life podcast. And we\u2019ll talk a little bit more about that too. And I\u2019m excited to jump into the conversation. Welcome to the show, Julie. It\u2019s great to have you.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Julie Lefebure<\/strong> <em>[00:03:36 \u2013 00:03:39]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Thank you. It is so great to be here. Yeah. Thank you for inviting me.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Doris Swift<\/strong> <em>[00:03:40 \u2013 00:03:57]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Well, I\u2019ve been thinking about you for a long time and I was like, I gotta reach out to Julie and get her on the show. And so I would love if you would share a little bit about your story and how you are taking action where your passion, compassion, and conviction intersect, which is your fierce calling.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Julie Lefebure<\/strong> <em>[00:03:59 \u2013 00:04:34]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Okay. Well, gosh, I am a born and raised in Iowa girl. I have never left the state. I mean, I have for vacation and things like that. But, um, but yeah, we are rooted here in Iowa and, uh, been married to my husband, it\u2019ll be 34 years this year. We have 2 kids, 2 bonus kids, our, our in-laws, which I absolutely, I could consider my own, and 3 wonderful grandchildren. And, uh, I\u2019m in a season now where I have, um, just let go of my part-time job. And so I\u2019m really kind of in ministry.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Julie Lefebure<\/strong> <em>[00:04:35 \u2013 00:05:22]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">guess I call it ministry full-time and doing all the things that you had mentioned and, um, taking care of my grandchildren as well. And so that\u2019s been a whole new adventure for us. And, um, my, you know, I just love helping women. I have had this calling on my life, and I didn\u2019t really know it was a calling. You know, that\u2019s kind of a word that we use, but I just had this nudge to just I love helping women, to encourage them, to inspire them, to, to just help them see that they were created more for more than what we are living out in our everyday lives. And so that\u2019s kind of my\u2014 that\u2019s who I am. I just\u2014 and I love how God continues to put women in front of me who I can help do that. So that\u2019s kind of my fierce calling, I would say.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Julie Lefebure<\/strong> <em>[00:05:22 \u2013 00:05:24]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So yeah, that\u2019s, that\u2019s it.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Doris Swift<\/strong> <em>[00:05:25 \u2013 00:06:00]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Yeah, definitely. And, you know, when I see the things that you post and it just is very authentic. It\u2019s like authentic Julie, you know. Your heart is to encourage women in their walk with Christ and for what their calling is, you know, and encourage them in that. So, and I love the book\u2019s subtitle is 365 Devotions for the Woman Who Refuses to Settle. And I would just\u2014 if you could unpack that. I know that\u2019s like a little buzzword, but if you could unpack that a little bit for us.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Julie Lefebure<\/strong> <em>[00:06:00 \u2013 00:06:00]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Yeah.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Doris Swift<\/strong> <em>[00:06:01 \u2013 00:06:11]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Because I love that you are trying to get the attention of women who aren\u2019t wanting to settle for like, this is, this is kind of it, you know? Yeah.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Julie Lefebure<\/strong> <em>[00:06:12 \u2013 00:06:44]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Yeah. And I think we all hit that moment at one point in our lives where we\u2019re thinking, is this all there is? You know, there\u2019s got to be more to life than this. And I remember that day and I write it. I wrote about it in the introduction of the book of\u2014 I remember exactly where I was. I was in my 20s and I was going through this on this road. And, and I just thought, there\u2019s got to be more to life than this, that this is\u2014 this can\u2019t be it. And, um, God just has taken me on a journey since then. He just kind of woke me up that there is more to life than this.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Julie Lefebure<\/strong> <em>[00:06:45 \u2013 00:06:56]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And I was in a place of settling, and that was a long time ago, you know, in my 20s. And I\u2019m older than that now, but it\u2019s been a journey of just understanding that God created us.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Doris Swift<\/strong> <em>[00:06:56 \u2013 00:06:56]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Mm-hmm.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Julie Lefebure<\/strong> <em>[00:06:57 \u2013 00:08:12]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">You know, in John 10:10, Jesus says that He came to give us life and life with abundance, depending on the translation that you read. You know, the thief comes to steal, kill, and destroy, but I have come to give life and life with abundance. And this verse has just kind of become my passion because there are times I don\u2019t live in abundance, and God created us to live this abundant life in Him. And so I became a woman that refused to settle, not for settling\u2014 excuse me\u2014 for the things of this world, because, you know, we\u2019re always going to be tempted to strive and to get more and, you know, buy more and have the nicer house and whatever. Um, but God wants us to, to live this abundant life in the eternal world, you know, the things that aren\u2019t of this world. And, and I I don\u2019t wanna be the woman that settles for anything less than God\u2019s best. And so that\u2019s the tagline, is that we don\u2019t wanna settle for anything less than God\u2019s best. That has nothing to do with really anything of this world, but it\u2019s all to do with God and partnering with him and what his best is for each of us.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Julie Lefebure<\/strong> <em>[00:08:12 \u2013 00:08:14]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Yeah. So does that, does that, does that help at all?<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Doris Swift<\/strong> <em>[00:08:15 \u2013 00:08:33]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Yes, it really does. It does. And I love how you talk about God\u2019s best, and that\u2019s what we wanna, you know, not just settle for less than that. And, um, yeah, yeah. And, in the book is, is beautiful because it is not, um, like cumbersome or overwhelming.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Julie Lefebure<\/strong> <em>[00:08:33 \u2013 00:08:33]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">No.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Doris Swift<\/strong> <em>[00:08:33 \u2013 00:08:45]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">It\u2019s like each day you read it and then, you know, you have the scripture that goes with it, and then you have the Speak Life, Talk to God, Reflect and Respond, you know, each day.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Julie Lefebure<\/strong> <em>[00:08:45 \u2013 00:08:45]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Yeah.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Doris Swift<\/strong> <em>[00:08:45 \u2013 00:09:15]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And, you know, it\u2019s something that women can just do in the morning or whenever they find it You know, to do, have the time to do that. But like, for example, on day 24, you talk about find beauty in the beginning. And I really love that because sometimes we feel like things are insignificant or that what we\u2019re doing doesn\u2019t matter. So what are some of your thoughts on that?<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Julie Lefebure<\/strong> <em>[00:09:18 \u2013 00:10:26]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Well, the, the beauty in the beginning thing, that, that kind of came from that, that piece of, you know, sometimes we do\u2014 we don\u2019t appreciate the beginning of something when we just want to get to the end. We want to get to the final piece and achieve the thing or finish the project or whatever it is. But sometimes it\u2019s in the beginning that God really speaks to us, that he directs our, you know, our steps in the beginning. And we may not know how it\u2019s all going to look at the end, but Those beginning steps are sometimes the most important that we should\u2014 it helps me to remember to cherish every part of the journey, not just the ending piece. And so that\u2019s, that\u2019s kind of\u2014 that was my thought with that one. And each day, you know, each day has a different focus. But that focus was, was really part of my journey of I\u2019m the person that likes to be productive and keeps working towards the thing where sometimes the most important part is just the very beginning when we can trust God and say, okay, I\u2019m yours. Show me the next step, you know, give me the, give me the ideas, the vision, whatever it might be.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Julie Lefebure<\/strong> <em>[00:10:26 \u2013 00:10:33]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And so that\u2019s, that\u2019s one of those that\u2019s just really personal to me. So I\u2019m really glad that you, you brought that one out.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Doris Swift<\/strong> <em>[00:10:33 \u2013 00:11:22]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Yeah, I just, it\u2019s just that one struck me. And of course there\u2019s tons of other ones because it\u2019s 365. Um, but I just, you know, I love that too because, uh, it\u2019s just a reminder. It kind of reminds me where the Bible tells us, you know, I\u2019m doing a new thing, do you not perceive it? And, and then of course there\u2019s nothing new under the sun, but still, you know, Right. there could be something just small that starts. And how the Word tells us that, you know, he who began a good work in you, you know, will be faithful to complete it until the day of Christ Jesus. So I think that sometimes we might want to rush the process of what it\u2019s supposed to look like and kind of like, yeah, jump to the end game. So I\u2019m glad that you\u2014<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Julie Lefebure<\/strong> <em>[00:11:22 \u2013 00:11:22]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Yeah.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Doris Swift<\/strong> <em>[00:11:23 \u2013 00:11:48]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Brought that out. You know, it\u2019s not about just\u2014 and it\u2019s good to have like a daily kind of rhythm, you know, where we spend time with the Lord and we, um, meditate on his word and all of that and just kind of Take it one day at a time because we always wanna know like, well, what\u2019s this gonna come out to be? Or how\u2019s this gonna all play out? And we know better than to like, yeah, second guess God about that.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Julie Lefebure<\/strong> <em>[00:11:49 \u2013 00:12:12]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Yeah. Yeah. And that, that\u2019s great for the mornings too. You know, mm-hmm, that, that, that scripture of Isaiah 43:19, I think is what it is, that says, you know, do you not perceive I\u2019m doing it? I\u2019m doing a new thing. Every morning is a new thing. Yeah. You know, God\u2019s mercies are new every day. And so the beginning of a new day can just be like a whole refreshing Okay, God, what do you and I get to do today? You know, type of thing.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Julie Lefebure<\/strong> <em>[00:12:13 \u2013 00:12:20]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">It\u2019s just the beginning part that really I think we miss. And so, yeah, it\u2019s not all about the end. It\u2019s, it\u2019s a beautiful part in the beginning.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Doris Swift<\/strong> <em>[00:12:21 \u2013 00:12:33]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Yeah, definitely. And, and how you, um, kind of bring that out in your devotions that you do, but also how it comes out in your encouragement for real life, right?<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Julie Lefebure<\/strong> <em>[00:12:35 \u2013 00:12:36]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Yeah. Yeah, that\u2019s right.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Doris Swift<\/strong> <em>[00:12:36 \u2013 00:13:00]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">That\u2019s right. And then, um, just the mentoring that you do, uh, with women and all of that. So if you want to go into a little bit about those different areas of your ministry and kind of share how that all ties in together with your calling, your vision, your, you know, what God has called you to do in the lives of women.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Julie Lefebure<\/strong> <em>[00:13:01 \u2013 00:13:40]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Yeah, you know, I never set out to, quote, have a platform or to be a podcaster or an author. I always had a desire to write a book, but I never, I never knew that I would. And I, it just was one thing at a time. God just took me one thing at a time. I came home from a writing conference in \u201921, 2020, summer of 2021. And so that was 5 years ago, and God pressed upon my heart to start a podcast. And so I began this podcast, and it happened. That\u2019s the thing with me and God\u2014 when he tells me to do something, I, I want to do it because I want to be obedient.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Julie Lefebure<\/strong> <em>[00:13:40 \u2013 00:13:50]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">That\u2019s the, you know, that\u2019s the, the people pleaser in me. I think I want to please God. I want to do, you know, what he wants me to do. The thing is, it just seems to come together very fast.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Doris Swift<\/strong> <em>[00:13:50 \u2013 00:13:51]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Yeah.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Julie Lefebure<\/strong> <em>[00:13:51 \u2013 00:14:50]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And so I put that that podcast together very quickly, all of God\u2019s doing. And we\u2014 I launched it in August of \u201921, so it\u2019ll be 5 years this, this August. And I just\u2014 a number of people before that had come to me, maybe 3, a local person, someone online, and one of my family members said, you know, maybe you should think about doing a podcast, or have you ever thought doing, doing a podcast? And I like, no, but I had the gumption when I came home from that conference. And so I began it and I found that that was another extension of my passion of just helping women, where I can speak life into their, their lives every, you know, every, in every episode. And I can take what God has taught me and share that with them in a way that\u2019s tangible that they can apply to their lives. And, and, um, you know, it\u2019s all biblically based and it\u2019s, um, the podcast is just\u2014 I love doing it. I absolutely love it. It\u2019s just part of It just brings me joy.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Julie Lefebure<\/strong> <em>[00:14:50 \u2013 00:15:55]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And so, um, it comes out every Tuesday, and, uh, it\u2019s a weekly episode podcast. So that\u2019s been fun. And there\u2019s new things I think I might try in the fall, that maybe I might do some more live streams. I\u2019ve only done one live stream, but that was fun. And I, I just, I, I just love to see what God\u2019s next step with that is. And, um, I began, uh, of a desire again to help women. And, and a number of women had just reached out and said, you know, can, can I meet with you? Can we meet for lunch? Can\u2014 who live local. Some online said, can we\u2014 can I just email you some questions? And they were just everyday questions about life and how do we, in their specific circumstances, of how do they just carry on? Or, or maybe had a specific question about, you know, what is your faith life look like in a trying circumstance? Or\u2014 and so I had this thought that, you know, I\u2019m just going to start a mentoring program where I can just come alongside of women and be kind of be there.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Julie Lefebure<\/strong> <em>[00:15:56 \u2013 00:16:57]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I\u2019m not a coach because I don\u2019t, I don\u2019t want to be a coach, but I want to\u2014 I wanted to have someone to mentor me when I was going through difficult seasons, or when I was questioning my faith, or when I was just stuck in my faith. And I felt like, is God even listening? And so that kind of all just came to be this mentoring. It\u2019s called Abundant Life Mentoring. And actually, I\u2019ve been\u2014 I began it last year, and it has been such a gift to be able to come alongside women and just help them find clarity and confidence and courage in their everyday lives. And it\u2019s, it\u2019s just been a very\u2014 I want to\u2014 what I want to say, encouraging piece, but yet it\u2019s also been, I think, very life-giving for, for both parties, for me and the women I get to work with. And so that\u2019s been, that\u2019s been a joy too. I\u2019m just, whatever God wants me to do, I just want to step and do it. And I don\u2019t do it perfectly, as you know, we, none of us do.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Doris Swift<\/strong> <em>[00:16:57 \u2013 00:16:58]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Right.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Julie Lefebure<\/strong> <em>[00:16:58 \u2013 00:17:07]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But it\u2019s, it\u2019s, it\u2019s a joy to be able just to be in the, in God\u2019s will, whatever that looked like, might look like for each one of us. And that\u2019s where he has me right now.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Doris Swift<\/strong> <em>[00:17:07 \u2013 00:17:34]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Yeah, I love a few things that you said. Well, I love all that you said, but, um, they kind of struck me in the beginning when you, you know, that people were telling you, you know, like, you should start a podcast, you know. And I really feel like I kind of had a similar experience when I started mine. And really, it started years before I started mine, you know, when really a lot of people weren\u2019t like even aware of what podcasts were or whatever.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Julie Lefebure<\/strong> <em>[00:17:34 \u2013 00:17:34]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Yeah.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Doris Swift<\/strong> <em>[00:17:34 \u2013 00:18:09]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So it can start from very early on even, and just like a little flicker of something that\u2019s coming, you know, that God kind of prepares us for and starts equipping us in different ways. But I was kind of like you where when I started mine, uh, I just felt like I was supposed to do it and that it was time. And, um, you know, after even talking to different people that had said you should do a podcast, I\u2019m like, well, what would I do a podcast on, you know? And they were like, well, just read your blog posts. At the time I was a blogger.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Julie Lefebure<\/strong> <em>[00:18:10 \u2013 00:18:10]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Yeah.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Doris Swift<\/strong> <em>[00:18:11 \u2013 00:18:33]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So yeah, so I started it and I really, you know, I was kind of where you were too. Like, I really didn\u2019t know a lot of what I was doing, so I would look up a lot of information. And then right after that is\u2014 I kind of shared this story before at different times\u2014 that\u2019s when the Spark Media, the Spark Christian Podcast Conference, the inaugural one came out.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Julie Lefebure<\/strong> <em>[00:18:33 \u2013 00:18:34]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Yeah. Uh-huh. Yeah.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Doris Swift<\/strong> <em>[00:18:35 \u2013 00:18:41]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And, and that was in February of, uh, 2020, right before the whole world kind of shut down with the\u2014<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Julie Lefebure<\/strong> <em>[00:18:42 \u2013 00:18:43]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">That\u2019s right. I remember that.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Doris Swift<\/strong> <em>[00:18:43 \u2013 00:19:12]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">That world. But anyway, you know, with the pandemic stuff, but it was perfect timing because you could still reach people all over the world. Even when we maybe couldn\u2019t go places that we were used to going, we could reach a lot more people and you know, with truth and encouragement. And so I think that oftentimes God will have us, as, you know, as we have heard the saying, that he equips the called. So he calls you and then he equips you.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Julie Lefebure<\/strong> <em>[00:19:13 \u2013 00:19:13]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Yeah.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Doris Swift<\/strong> <em>[00:19:13 \u2013 00:19:41]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So I think that was good. I was like, I need to go to that conference \u2019cause then I\u2019ll learn, you know, more about what I\u2019m doing. But anyway, so we have kind of a similar beginning with that. And I think it\u2019s just when we feel like the Lord is prompting us to do something, You know, even if we don\u2019t do it perfectly, because I mean, nobody does it perfectly. So I love that you talked about that. It\u2019s like, you know, not to be afraid to step out. And if we make mistakes, we learn from those. And nothing\u2019s a failure.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Doris Swift<\/strong> <em>[00:19:42 \u2013 00:19:50]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The only failure\u2014 I don\u2019t know, it\u2019s probably a phrase and a quote, and I don\u2019t know who to attribute it to\u2014 but the only failure is when you don\u2019t try, or, you know.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Julie Lefebure<\/strong> <em>[00:19:51 \u2013 00:20:06]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Right, right. You don\u2019t try. So, and I, I went in with I went in with the thought that, okay, what\u2019s the worst that can happen? You know, if I do, if it falls flat, what\u2019s\u2014 I tried, and then I would know, okay, well, that wasn\u2019t\u2014 yeah, maybe I misheard, or maybe, you know, what\u2019s the worst thing that could happen? So\u2014<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Doris Swift<\/strong> <em>[00:20:06 \u2013 00:20:31]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Exactly. Yeah, what\u2019s the worst case scenario? Um, but yeah, yeah. So, and then for your mentoring, that is really great too. And I like how you distinguished yourself between like that and a coach because it\u2019s a different process. It\u2019s a different approach. And, um, yeah. And it might be similar to like, like counseling or something, you know, where you\u2019re encouraging, you know, with\u2014<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Julie Lefebure<\/strong> <em>[00:20:31 \u2013 00:20:32]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I\u2019m not a licensed counselor.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Doris Swift<\/strong> <em>[00:20:32 \u2013 00:20:33]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Mm-hmm.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Julie Lefebure<\/strong> <em>[00:20:33 \u2013 00:21:01]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">It\u2019s more, uh, more personal. I think mentoring is more personal than coaching. Mm-hmm. You know, a coach just, I, I feel like a coach would just, and not all coaches, but right. I, I figure like, think about my basketball coach when I was in high school, you know, stood from the sidelines, cheered me on, blew the whistle at practice and, you know, but I wanna come be the one to come alongside. hook arms with someone and say, I\u2019m going to walk with you through this, you know. Um, it\u2019s a little more personal. Yeah, it\u2019s been very\u2014 yeah, it\u2019s been a very good thing.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Doris Swift<\/strong> <em>[00:21:01 \u2013 00:21:22]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Yeah, I love that it\u2019s personal. And because each woman that you mentor is going through something different, or maybe just want some direction of like, you know, I feel like God\u2019s wanting me to start this and I\u2019m not sure where to begin, and just kind of helping come along. It\u2019s really also a form of discipleship. You know, when you do that.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Julie Lefebure<\/strong> <em>[00:21:22 \u2013 00:21:23]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Yeah, right.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Doris Swift<\/strong> <em>[00:21:23 \u2013 00:21:36]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So I love that so much. And so, um, talking more about the book, um, what actually began that? Like, how did you start thinking this should be a devotional?<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Julie Lefebure<\/strong> <em>[00:21:38 \u2013 00:21:52]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Okay. Yeah. Uh, this actually began last summer, actually. I, uh, the beginning of June. I love summer. It\u2019s my favorite season. And so last summer I did a series on my podcast called Summer of Abundance.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Doris Swift<\/strong> <em>[00:21:52 \u2013 00:21:53]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Mm-hmm.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Julie Lefebure<\/strong> <em>[00:21:53 \u2013 00:22:31]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And it was a 12-week series. I\u2019d never done that long of a series, but I picked out 12 things in God\u2019s\u2014 or areas where I saw in God\u2019s, God\u2019s word that he would love to grow us. Like, um, one is gratitude. One was, um, kind of the, the staying in the moment, being present type of thing. There was 12 of them. And after, after I was kind of starting to wrap that series up at the end of summer, I had an inkling. I thought, I wonder if I could make these series, use these 12 core principles into a book. And I went away.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Julie Lefebure<\/strong> <em>[00:22:31 \u2013 00:23:01]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I\u2019m with\u2014 I\u2019m\u2014 I have\u2014 there\u2019s 5 of us that meet on Monday mornings in a prayer group and online. And we went away all together for the first time. All of us were together except one in St. Louis. And that was in July. And so We had talked about our dreams and goals and things like that. And on the way home from that, because I was\u2014 we were driving, and I just really was feeling that this is\u2014 this really be a book? Is this my next book? Because I wanted to write a book. I just don\u2019t know what it was going to be.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Julie Lefebure<\/strong> <em>[00:23:01 \u2013 00:23:33]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And I\u2019ve always wanted to write a devotional. And ever since I wrote my, my other books, I thought, well, this, this might be the opportunity to do that. And so I laid it out and prayed about it, and God, uh, helped me to start writing it at the end of last summer. And, um, I just sat down with him and began to write. They\u2019re small devotionals for every day, and that\u2019s how it really came to be. And so I pulled from some of the material from my podcast. Of course, I had to expand on each one, but the groundwork was kind of already laid.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Doris Swift<\/strong> <em>[00:23:33 \u2013 00:23:33]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Yeah.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Julie Lefebure<\/strong> <em>[00:23:33 \u2013 00:23:47]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And I just expanded it more and made it to be more personal and relatable for the reader. So that\u2019s how it came to be, and I didn\u2019t really expect it, but it was really a gift that God had given me through that. Yeah.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Doris Swift<\/strong> <em>[00:23:47 \u2013 00:24:15]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Wow, thank you for sharing that. I think that\u2019s very encouraging because then it kind of helps us to see like what is already in our hands, like what has God already given us. And sometimes we try to overthink things and processes and all of that, and It\u2019s just like kind of the old adage, work smarter, not harder. You know, like, what have you done? Especially too, because you can see what things resonate with women.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Julie Lefebure<\/strong> <em>[00:24:15 \u2013 00:24:15]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Yeah.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Doris Swift<\/strong> <em>[00:24:15 \u2013 00:24:36]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">You know, what is it that I guess in the writing world we call it the felt need? You know, what is it that they\u2019re like needing to, to get some help with or encouragement with or, you know, and that kind of thing. And the fact being that all of your direction and encouragement are coming directly from biblical truth.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Julie Lefebure<\/strong> <em>[00:24:37 \u2013 00:24:37]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Yeah.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Doris Swift<\/strong> <em>[00:24:37 \u2013 00:25:06]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Because we see a lot of stuff not coming from biblical truth, and it\u2019s more of a kind of a self-help kind of thing, and, you know, feel-good kind of thing, and like ideas from other people that implement things that may or may not be biblical. So I love that you are very grounded in the word and you want that to come out in how you share with women and where your ultimate authority comes from.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Julie Lefebure<\/strong> <em>[00:25:08 \u2013 00:25:34]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Yeah, yeah. I mean, that\u2019s, that\u2019s me. I, I really have a hard time having a conversation with them, with someone, and not bring God into this conversation because he\u2019s such a part of my life. You know, we talk about the things that are important to us. And so, you know, when I\u2019m in a, in an environment where I really would be appropriate to bring God into the equation, I really start to feel uncomfortable because it\u2019s such\u2014 he\u2019s such a part of my life.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Doris Swift<\/strong> <em>[00:25:34 \u2013 00:25:35]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Yeah.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Julie Lefebure<\/strong> <em>[00:25:35 \u2013 00:26:10]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And you know what you were saying about, you know, kind of using the things that we have in our hands? I think many of us women feel like, I don\u2019t have anything to offer. And we do. God\u2019s already given us something. You know, we, we do have those things. We just maybe aren\u2019t seeing it from his perspective yet. And so I, I love how God has a purpose and a plan for each one of us, that he doesn\u2019t create us just to take up space. He creates us to, you know, go out and make a difference in this world and to love him and to serve him and to serve others. And I love how he does that differently through each one of us.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Doris Swift<\/strong> <em>[00:26:11 \u2013 00:26:30]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Yeah, it\u2019s, it\u2019s so personal, like you were saying earlier, you know, it\u2019s very personal and important. And, you know, and I love how you brought out John 10:10 and you know, how that is so true that the enemy, you know, it\u2019s like the thief comes only to steal, kill, and destroy.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Julie Lefebure<\/strong> <em>[00:26:30 \u2013 00:26:30]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Yes.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Doris Swift<\/strong> <em>[00:26:30 \u2013 00:27:12]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And it\u2019s like, I sometimes when I speak and I, when I use that, I\u2019ll have the women even circle that word only because that\u2019s the only agenda that he has. But then we can\u2019t forget the rest of the verse that you brought out, you know, that God has come to give us abundant life. And there\u2019s so many that might take that out of context and kind of put it toward, you know, uh, like accumulating treasures on earth. Like, you know, all the things that will, you know, that the moths will eat. So, yeah, people, thieves can steal. So just, um, kind of doing things for eternal purposes is so important.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Julie Lefebure<\/strong> <em>[00:27:12 \u2013 00:27:13]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Exactly.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Doris Swift<\/strong> <em>[00:27:13 \u2013 00:27:24]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And I think that\u2019s kind of how you you come for, you know, with your message and all of that to kind of direct women in that and encourage them with the inter\u2014 eternal purpose that they have.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Julie Lefebure<\/strong> <em>[00:27:25 \u2013 00:27:25]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Yeah.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Doris Swift<\/strong> <em>[00:27:25 \u2013 00:27:51]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And it\u2019s just not about like, okay, let\u2019s be sure that Jesus is our Lord and Savior so we can go to heaven. Because like you say, he, he wants us to live an abundant life here. And really, I mean, serving and loving other people and blessing them and encouraging them, that brings abundant joy. And that\u2019s what you had shared, that really gives you joy, right, Julie?<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Julie Lefebure<\/strong> <em>[00:27:52 \u2013 00:28:18]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Yeah, yeah, it, it does. That, that\u2019s the thing. And then when, when we give that out to someone, then what happens is then they feel encouraged and kind of built up, and then they\u2019re better able to then give that theirs out to someone else. So it just kind of, kind of just starts to spread, but it can just start with one person. Kind of like one candle, you know, lighting another person\u2019s candle. And it can just become a big light that will shine bright for the Lord. And yeah, I love how he does that.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Doris Swift<\/strong> <em>[00:28:18 \u2013 00:28:33]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I know, it\u2019s so precious and beautiful. And that, when you just said that, it kind of reminds me when you go like maybe the candlelight service on Christmas Eve or something. It\u2019s like, now be sure the person whose candle isn\u2019t lit is the one that needs to tilt theirs. You wind up wax all over.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Julie Lefebure<\/strong> <em>[00:28:33 \u2013 00:28:34]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">You need to lean towards it.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Doris Swift<\/strong> <em>[00:28:35 \u2013 00:28:40]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Exactly. So there\u2019s, you know, we got to follow the right way to do things. You can\u2019t tilt the lit candle.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Julie Lefebure<\/strong> <em>[00:28:40 \u2013 00:28:41]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">That\u2019s not going to work. Right.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Doris Swift<\/strong> <em>[00:28:41 \u2013 00:29:17]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Um, but yeah, so I\u2014 and I think that is just really, really important. And just kind of, um, you know, sharing truth with others and being called to do that is very important. And, and I think too, like we were talking earlier, look and see what is in your hand. It was very good that you brought out the point that some women think that they don\u2019t have anything to offer. And it\u2019s like, well, You know, look back and see what have you done in your life. Like, even secular jobs, you don\u2019t necessarily have to have worked in a church.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Julie Lefebure<\/strong> <em>[00:29:17 \u2013 00:29:17]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Mm-hmm.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Doris Swift<\/strong> <em>[00:29:17 \u2013 00:30:14]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Or, you know, where have you volunteered? Where have you worked? What kind of talents and skills has he given you over the years, over the course of time? What people have he\u2014 has he brought into your life, into your path? You know, like these different divine appointments that we might not even recognize or realize. at the time that could maybe come to something later. Because sometimes he gives us people that are just for the\u2014 this time, and then some people are in there in your life for a long time. Like, like you\u2019ve been in my life for a long time. We might not necessarily talk all the time, you know, we might not necessarily reach out and, you know, connect all the time, but we just kind of love knowing that we\u2019re sisters in Christ and we can see what God is doing in our lives and, you know, very similar direction in, in the, uh, women\u2019s ministry kind of lane.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Julie Lefebure<\/strong> <em>[00:30:15 \u2013 00:30:22]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Right, right. Yeah. So if, uh, and you know, I\u2014 yeah, it\u2019s\u2014 yeah, you\u2019re right. You\u2019re spot on. I totally agree.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Doris Swift<\/strong> <em>[00:30:22 \u2013 00:30:52]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Yeah. So what would you say maybe to a woman who\u2019s listening now who feels like maybe what they\u2019re doing is very insignificant. They\u2019re not really sure what their calling is. And of course, we don\u2019t want people to be anxious about that because that wouldn\u2019t be from God, you know. So how would you encourage a woman right now, um, who\u2019s wondering, well, what do I have to offer and how, how can I walk in my calling?<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Julie Lefebure<\/strong> <em>[00:30:53 \u2013 00:31:53]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Yeah, you know, and I, I think sometimes we get paralyzed with that word calling, because it\u2019s important and it\u2019s\u2014 it makes sense to, to us. But yet it\u2019s also like, gosh, I don\u2019t know what my calling is. I don\u2019t have a calling, or I don\u2019t\u2014 you know, what am I supposed to do with my life? You know, maybe I\u2019m already well into my years of my life, and I, I feel like I\u2019m just here taking up space. And again, this is part of that refusing to settle. If we do feel like we\u2019re just taking up space, I think that\u2019s a wake-up call to say, okay, God, what, what do you have for me? It may not be, what do you have for the rest of my life? What do you have for me today? What do I have? What have you given me that I can use for your service? It may not be today. It might be changing diapers today. It might be, you know, wiping up the spills for the 100th time today. It might be caring for\u2014 a sick loved one.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Julie Lefebure<\/strong> <em>[00:31:53 \u2013 00:32:31]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Maybe it\u2019s, it\u2019s you got a diagnosis and you just\u2014 what you need to do today is just\u2014 God\u2019s going to say, just sit with me, abide with me. It may not be this big, huge, grandiose, it\u2019s going to be the rest of your life type of path. It may just be just for today. And so I\u2014 that\u2019s, I think, how we need to live our lives. Yes, we\u2014 it does. You know, God\u2019s word does say to, you know, plan. But it also says, you know, that\u2014 oh goodness, what is it, Proverbs\u2014 that says, um, but that people plan their, their paths, but it\u2019s the Lord that directs their steps.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Doris Swift<\/strong> <em>[00:32:31 \u2013 00:32:31]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Yeah.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Julie Lefebure<\/strong> <em>[00:32:31 \u2013 00:33:07]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I mean, when we seek God first, he\u2019s always going to just direct us to where we need to go next. And also to lean into what brings you joy. What do you do that brings you joy? Uh, what is it that just, you know, just makes you feel like you are living your your, your, your passion out. And that\u2019s different for each one of us. So Doris and I, we can\u2019t, we can\u2019t choose that for you. But God has something for you. And that is, that may be totally different than anything you\u2019ve thought about. But all of a sudden, you might be realizing, well, wait a minute, I really enjoy whatever it might be.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Julie Lefebure<\/strong> <em>[00:33:07 \u2013 00:33:43]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">You know, I don\u2019t want to give an example. It may be something that you\u2019ve never thought of before. But I Firmly believe that when we start to feel like we\u2019re just taking up space or that we don\u2019t have a calling, that\u2019s an invitation to just go to God and say, what do you have for me? He will show you. He\u2019s not going to ignore you. He\u2019s not going to say, well, you\u2019ve already blown it, you\u2019ve done this, so you can\u2019t\u2014 I can\u2019t use you anymore. That\u2019s not God. And he has perfect plans and purposes for each one of us. And I\u2019m going to be praying for Um, woman today because I was there and I get it.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Julie Lefebure<\/strong> <em>[00:33:44 \u2013 00:33:54]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And I think many of us have been there, so you\u2019re not alone. And it\u2019s, it\u2019s just a beautiful time with God that he will lead you in if you just seek him.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Doris Swift<\/strong> <em>[00:33:54 \u2013 00:33:54]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Yeah.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Julie Lefebure<\/strong> <em>[00:33:55 \u2013 00:33:55]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Wow.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Doris Swift<\/strong> <em>[00:33:55 \u2013 00:34:56]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Yes, that was very beautifully said and so encouraging to a woman who\u2019s listening right now who really needed to hear that truth today. And, you know, and to kind of dispel the lies, you know, oftentimes we might even have these things come to mind like Well, she\u2019s already doing that, or she\u2019s doing that better, you know, or, you know, and as far as like in the author lane, well, there\u2019s a book already on that, so why would, why would I need to write a book on it? If that is what you\u2019re supposed to be doing, you know, and God will give it to you, but in, in the way that he\u2019s gifted you and equipped you, and it\u2019s gonna look different. I mean, we all can have even the same spiritual gift, but we use it differently because of the way that he has created us. We\u2019re all created in his image, but we all maybe approach things differently depending on how he\u2019s wired us, you know, how he has, um, yeah, made us. So, and that we were made for more.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Julie Lefebure<\/strong> <em>[00:34:57 \u2013 00:34:59]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So we have to\u2014 Yeah, absolutely we were.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Doris Swift<\/strong> <em>[00:34:59 \u2013 00:35:00]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">We have to remember that.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Julie Lefebure<\/strong> <em>[00:35:00 \u2013 00:35:04]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And I Yes. And I have 2 examples of that, if I could share real quick.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Doris Swift<\/strong> <em>[00:35:04 \u2013 00:35:05]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Sure.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Julie Lefebure<\/strong> <em>[00:35:05 \u2013 00:35:11]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Bob Goff. Bob Goff. He\u2019s a well, you know, a well-known author. He wrote a book called Undistracted.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Doris Swift<\/strong> <em>[00:35:11 \u2013 00:35:11]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And I\u2014<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Julie Lefebure<\/strong> <em>[00:35:12 \u2013 00:35:53]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">that was gonna be my book when he wrote. Of course, mine was from a different perspective. So when I wrote my book, I was almost tempted to say, well, there\u2019s already enough books out there like that. But I, you know, of course, mine was from my perspective. And so mine was, mine was called Right Now Matters about living in the moment and undistracted. But so even though Bob Goff wrote this book, I can still write my book. And even if, you know, you had your, your podcast before me, if I would have thought, well, there\u2019s too many podcasts, Doris has a podcast, so that means I probably shouldn\u2019t have a podcast, right? But we come from two\u2014 we\u2019re still both biblically based, but we come from two different angles. And it\u2019s\u2014 I love how God is just so creative through each one of us.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Julie Lefebure<\/strong> <em>[00:35:53 \u2013 00:35:55]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So I\u2019m really glad you brought that out. That\u2019s so very important.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Doris Swift<\/strong> <em>[00:35:56 \u2013 00:35:56]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Yeah.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Julie Lefebure<\/strong> <em>[00:35:56 \u2013 00:36:04]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">That, you know, just because someone else has done it doesn\u2019t mean that you\u2019re going to do it exactly like her. And you shouldn\u2019t do it just like her. He\u2014 God has something else for you instead.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Doris Swift<\/strong> <em>[00:36:04 \u2013 00:36:05]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Exactly.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Julie Lefebure<\/strong> <em>[00:36:05 \u2013 00:36:08]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">That may be in a similar line, but maybe a different perspective.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Doris Swift<\/strong> <em>[00:36:08 \u2013 00:37:02]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Yeah. And very unique. And even like, yeah, again, from a writing perspective, if you ever do like a book proposal, at the end there\u2019s a place, you know, in the proposal where you\u2019re supposed to list books that are very similar to yours, but then you have to say, but mine is different because\u2014 and you can definitely\u2014 self-publishing is amazing, and you can do that. If you get traditionally published, publishers are going to ask, like, what is different about your book, you know, kind of thing. And it really makes you think, why is it different? Or maybe helps you find ways that it is more unique, you know, that they\u2019re not going to get this. But it\u2019s okay if women hear the same biblical truth over and over in different books, um, but ultimately the book they really need to just focus and meditate on is the Bible.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Julie Lefebure<\/strong> <em>[00:37:03 \u2013 00:37:05]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Yeah, exactly.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Doris Swift<\/strong> <em>[00:37:05 \u2013 00:37:54]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">That\u2019s the main book. And then books that come out of biblical truth really need to be solid in that because there\u2019s a lot of other books that are not. And just to have that discernment and wisdom from God to really, really see, like, test it against the Word, you know, and kind of go back and say, where is this? And it really helps you with Bible study too because it keeps you sharp. And if you know the Word, you\u2019re going to recognize the counterfeit, the enemy\u2019s counterfeit. And so I think that\u2019s important to remember. So thank you so much. And, um, if you would like to share any last thoughts that maybe you felt on your heart that you would want to, that you haven\u2019t gotten a chance to share yet, and then Um, let us know, like, how the listener can connect with you and find your books and all the things that you have available and your resources.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Julie Lefebure<\/strong> <em>[00:37:56 \u2013 00:38:31]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Sure. Yeah, I, um, I, I guess I would just say, just to, to the last little word, that thought that I have is that, you know, God is so\u2014 he cares about the details of our lives. He\u2014 I, I, I\u2014 the longer I live, the, the more I just realize it\u2019s almost\u2014 it\u2019s\u2014 it just makes me kind of chuckle because things that I get stuck with, things that I struggle with, the things that I\u2014 what do I want to say? Just, just you have to battle through some days. I look to God and he always\u2014 he\u2019s always there. He cares about what we\u2019re going through.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Doris Swift<\/strong> <em>[00:38:32 \u2013 00:38:32]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Yeah.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Julie Lefebure<\/strong> <em>[00:38:32 \u2013 00:39:21]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Sometimes I think that we think that we have to bear it ourselves when God is just standing by the sidelines saying, here, let me carry this for you. And I love that picture because I have to sometimes physically, well, in my mind, think that, okay, I\u2019m gonna hand my backpack that\u2019s full of rocks and heaviness off to God because he can handle it. I can\u2019t. And I just walk with him in it. He does care about every single detail, whether it\u2019s small, whether it\u2019s big. And so no matter what you may be experiencing today, hand it off to God, walk with him in it, and he will lighten your load and he will help you to be that woman who is living the abundant life for him. And I love, I love him so much to be able to just know that we are fully protected and in his care every single moment of every day.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Doris Swift<\/strong> <em>[00:39:21 \u2013 00:39:22]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Beautiful.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Julie Lefebure<\/strong> <em>[00:39:22 \u2013 00:39:57]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you, and you can find me at julielefebure.com. I know my name, last name is kind of weird, but I married into that name and I love that name. But it\u2019s L-E-F-E-B-U-R-E. So julielefebure.com, and everything is there. And you can also find my books on Amazon if you\u2019re an Amazon person. And, you know, I\u2014 you can follow me on social media, Julie Lefebure, on Facebook and Instagram and all, you know, all the channels. So I would love to be able to connect with you in any of those spaces.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Doris Swift<\/strong> <em>[00:39:58 \u2013 00:41:02]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Great. Well, thank you so much, and I will be sure to put those links and things in the show notes so the listener can find you and reach out. And this has been really an amazing conversation. I love how you brought out things that you\u2019ve struggled with. And I think that\u2019s\u2014 I think your most recent podcast episode, you kind of talked about those things, so women can listen to that and see, well, what, what are those things? Um, but, you know, that\u2019s right. But I love that you said that you love God so much, and I think that\u2019s where Really, it comes from like we love God so much that we have a heart to love others like Jesus. And if you don\u2019t know Jesus, if you don\u2019t know the character of God, and maybe you\u2019ve had some hurt and pain in your life, and maybe you know if you\u2019re listening right now and you\u2019ve had some things happen like church hurt or something in your family or brokenness, you know, and maybe. you could possibly have a distorted view of God\u2019s character and who he really is.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Doris Swift<\/strong> <em>[00:41:03 \u2013 00:41:20]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Um, just seek him because he invites us to seek him and we will find him. And so just, you know, pray on that and God is there. Like Julie said, he will answer, answer prayers, and not necessarily in the way we might think, but\u2014<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Julie Lefebure<\/strong> <em>[00:41:20 \u2013 00:41:20]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Right.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Doris Swift<\/strong> <em>[00:41:21 \u2013 00:41:44]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">You know, but I love how, you know, the word tells us that he will do exceedingly abundantly above what we ask or think. So to keep that encouragement in mind and to just read the Bible, just open it and start reading. And God, you know, reveals Himself through His Word, and that\u2019s how we get to know Him. And so, Julie, I love this so much, and I hope to have you back on sometime.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Julie Lefebure<\/strong> <em>[00:41:44 \u2013 00:41:46]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Yeah, this has been so fun. Thank you for inviting me.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Doris Swift<\/strong> <em>[00:41:46 \u2013 00:42:01]<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Yes, it\u2019s been a great pleasure to have you. And friends, I hope you\u2019ll join me next time. When I talk with another guest who\u2019s taking action where their passion, compassion, and conviction intersect. 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