{"id":7046803,"date":"2026-08-25T02:46:53","date_gmt":"2026-08-25T02:46:53","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/peraltafinancing.com\/uncategorized\/dave-marsh-calling-counterpunch-org\/"},"modified":"2026-08-25T02:46:53","modified_gmt":"2026-08-25T02:46:53","slug":"dave-marsh-calling-counterpunch-org","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/fivemor.com\/?p=7046803","title":{"rendered":"Dave Marsh Calling &#8211; CounterPunch.org"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div>\n<div id=\"attachment_423571\" style=\"width: 690px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-423571\" class=\"wp-image-423571 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.counterpunch.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/davefreespeech.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"680\" height=\"452\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.counterpunch.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/davefreespeech.png 680w, https:\/\/www.counterpunch.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/davefreespeech-500x332.png 500w, https:\/\/www.counterpunch.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/davefreespeech-600x399.png 600w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 680px) 100vw, 680px\"\/><\/p>\n<p id=\"caption-attachment-423571\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Dave Marsh on \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=uC_k_hd6b8k\">Speaking Freely<\/a>,\u201d at the Newseum, July 2002. (Screen capture.)<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">They were titans to us, Midwestern kids enthralled by rock music, mythic Greek figures who communicated truths about, directly to the rock stars we loved. Unlike the self-congratulatory DJs, the rock critics told us who they were, who the bands were, what they meant, why the songs and albums mattered.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Growing up in Cleveland, Ohio, a city that declared bankruptcy, saw its lake die and river catch on fire as the \u201870s reduced by hometown to toxic rubble, rock &amp; roll was the\u00a0<em>only<\/em>\u00a0thing that seemed to matter. Our football team sucked. The baseball team was no better. Don\u2019t even consider the hockey or basketball organizations. It was bad. But, there was always the furious spirit of rock music, tilting against the norms and exploding with a rage \u2013 or euphoria \u2013 that captured you.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">No brothers or sisters, only babysitters and reprobate golf pros, I got sucked into music young. But where that often felt like personal taste (and some was really good personal taste), Jane Scott at the\u00a0<em>Plain Dealer<\/em>\u00a0offered authority without being condescending. Looking like somebody\u2019s spinster aunt, the musicians loved her wide-open approach and love for what they were doing. Reading her made me curious.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><em>CREEM,\u00a0<\/em>a snarky magazine from Detroit that felt like it was typed with dirty fingernails, had a real thrust that matched the music. Snide, passionate, at times unhinged, writers\u2019 names like Lester Bangs, Jaan Uhelszki (who turned out to be a girl) and Dave Marsh jumped off the page; all were visceral writers who threw down with a sense of urgency that matched the music.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><em>Rolling Stone<\/em>, which the reprobate golf pro who lived with us the summer before 7th or 8th grade, was very smart, very \u201cin the moment.\u201d But\u00a0<em>CREEM<\/em>, which I found on the magazine rack in the back of a bookstore a block from where Mom got her hair done, was funny, wrote about bands that were more than merely pristine or selling hard.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">One day, I saw Dave Marsh\u2019s name in\u00a0<em>Rolling Stone<\/em>. Hmmmm, writers can move? And from Detroit (Rock City!) and snotty bludgeoning to something more measured. Pay attention, I thought, and read on.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I never thought I\u2019d be a music critic, just a kid who loved music, who wanted to understand where Jackson Browne found that bruised introspection, Rod Stewart and the Stones that bottomless sex, Lou Reed the darkness and Bruce Springsteen that blue-collar need to outrun the fates that yoke you. It was fascinating seeing Marsh hold \u201chomeboy\u201d Bob Seger to a standard that slagged\u00a0<em>Against The Wind<\/em>\u00a0as basically feckless, betraying his Motor City bona fides\u2026<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Damn.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">College came, freelancing followed. It beat answering phones all night in a hotel that paid well because drug deals were done there on the regular, and not local commerce, but the big deals between America and Colombia, Peru and places below the border.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Once publishing, I wanted more.\u00a0<em>In Record Timez, Black Miami Weekly, Grapevine in the Grove<\/em>\u00a0and concert business trade\u00a0<em>Performance<\/em>\u00a0led to the\u00a0<em>Miami Herald, Trouser Press, Cleveland Plain Dealer, Rock &amp; Soul, Country Song Round-Up<\/em>. The bigger the publication, I came to learn, the better the access.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Watching fellow\u00a0<em>Herald<\/em>\u00a0freelancer \u00a0(and touring sax player)Tom Moon crack\u00a0<em>Musician<\/em>\u00a0\u2013 with Joni Mitchell, no less \u2013 my lust for bigger publications blazed. Letters were sent to\u00a0<em>Tower Pulse, Rockbill,\u00a0<\/em>and two start-ups:\u00a0<em>SPIN<\/em>\u00a0and a\u00a0<em>Rolling Stone<\/em>\u00a0spin-off called\u00a0<em>The Record<\/em>. If\u00a0<em>SPIN<\/em>\u00a0was the spawn of\u00a0<em>Penthouse\u00a0<\/em>publisher Bob Guccione,\u00a0<em>The Record\u00a0<\/em>had Dave Marsh on its masthead.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Letters and physical clips were sent \u2013 back when that was how it was done.\u00a0<em>Pulse\u00a0<\/em>and<em>\u00a0Rockbill<\/em>\u00a0responded with assignments;\u00a0<em>SPIN<\/em> was back-and-forth conversations that delivered \u2013 eventually \u2013 assignments ranging from Merle Haggard to Lita Ford.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">But the one I wanted was Dave Marsh. I said as much in my letters, pitching away and flattering enough to suggest I knew the vigor in his words \u2013 typed, it seemed, with a slashing sense of swagger that meant he meant it. Every manilla envelope soared into a staggering void, a silence that never echoed.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">My father used to tell me \u201cNo, NO!\u201d meant \u201cNot now.\u201d He\u2019d laugh, say, \u201cAdd a couple consonants and get over it\u2026\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Still the lack of response, the indifference.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">One day, the phone rang \u2013 back when you\u2019d also put your number several times in your queries \u2013 and a man\u2019s voice I didn\u2019t know asked for me. The vowels were a little flat. The cadence tilted forward, suggesting they meant business more than the cocaine-fueled urgency of Miami in the \u201880s.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cYes, this is she.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cHuh\u2026\u201d said the man on the other end of the line.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cCan I help you?\u201d I said, wondering if it was a creep from the Hotel Mutiny, who\u2019d found my number.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cI didn\u2019t think you\u2019d sound so young,\u201d came the honest response.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cI\u2019m 21,\u201d I said. \u201cThat\u2019s not young.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cDepends on how you look at it\u2026\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cMay I ask who\u2019s calling?\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cDave Marsh.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Holy crap! Dave Marsh. THE Dave Marsh, who\u2019d written about the Messiah of the Midwest long before he became a genuine superstar \u2013 and delivered a sense of Bruce Springsteen\u2019s ability to hold the hunger of blue-collar factory people in a way that fired not just dignity, but a sense of power.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cWow\u2026\u201d Not my most compelling response. Regaining composure, I swung big \u2013 and hopeful. \u201cDo you have an assignment?\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Laughter. \u201cNo. No, I don\u2019t.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cHuh,\u201d I grunted, disoriented by the surreality of it all. If there wasn\u2019t work, why would he bother.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cYeah, no assignment,\u201d he reaffirmed. But before I needed to say anything, he threw me a line. \u201cI figured you were the person in Florida who\u2019d been sending the packages, and I wanted to tell you\u2026\u201d<br \/>My jaw was slack. He had seen them, connected them and remembered. My clips weren\u2019t lost in the void.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cOh, sorry, uh, you wanted to tell me\u2026\u201d I\u2019d zoned out in panic and awe. I needed him to repeat.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cI saw your Steve Earle story in Tower Records magazine. It was good.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><em>Damn<\/em>. Damndamndamn.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cThanks.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cYeah, it piqued my interest. They sent me the album. It\u2019s good.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cI think\u00a0<em>Guitar Town<\/em>\u00a0is great,\u201d I blurted, maybe a little too young and enthused.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cReally?\u201d His tone was amused.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cYeah, I kind of do,\u201d I tried not being so rah rah.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cNo, Holly, either it\u00a0<em>is<\/em>\u00a0great, or it isn\u2019t.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">He was going to make me own my real estate.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cIt is,\u201d I said, brow furrowed as I cowboy\u2019ed up and owned my position. \u201cI don\u2019t know how much time you spend in the South or Southwest. But I think not only did Steve capture how the blue-collar working people who\u2019re as redneck as they are Rust Belt live in a world that doesn\u2019t see them, but he also brought that same rush of the music that Bruce has with the way he leans into rock. You know, the rock that\u2019s the heartland.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cIs that so?\u201d he asked.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cWell, yeah,\u201d I responded, a little uncertain, but thinking it was important to hold my line.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cAnd you\u2019re from Cleveland\u2026\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cYes,\u201d I affirmed.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cWell, then your opinion holds.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I broke out in a cold sweat. Also, being brash and young, I wanted to crack the\u00a0<em>Rolling Stone<\/em>\u00a0perimeter. \u201cAnd really\u2026 no assignment?\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">He laughed, an oak laugh that was solid, firm. \u201cNo, no assignment. But you\u2019ve sent me so many packages, when I saw your name, I thought I\u2019d give you a call. You\u2019re a good writer. Keep writing.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cI will,\u201d I said. \u201cI don\u2019t really have any choice.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cSometimes that\u2019s the best way,\u201d he said. \u201cWrite. It\u2019s important. Especially if you care.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">And then he was gone. There wasn\u2019t anything else to say, but it was a moment. Worst part was I didn\u2019t know who to tell. Most people in my world didn\u2019t read the rock press, wouldn\u2019t know, wouldn\u2019t care. But that was okay. I knew.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Being real life, we didn\u2019t become besties. I kept sending pitches, not hearing back. Most of the stuff you do at a daily paper is tour-related, or special interest-driven. Country music wasn\u2019t\u00a0<em>The Record<\/em>\u2019s thing, and they had better, more local people to do Black music.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">There was one more call. Towards the end of my senior year, Neil Young released\u00a0<em>Old Ways<\/em>, a porous hippie-country record. He only wanted to talk to \u201creal country writers.\u201d I, along with the\u00a0<em>Chicago Tribune<\/em>\u2019s Jack Hurst and the\u00a0<em>Houston Post<\/em>\u2019s Bob Claypool, were among the four, five, six journalists chosen. Between <em>Tower Pulse, MIX\u00a0<\/em>and\u00a0<em>Country Song Round-Up<\/em>, even without the cover,\u00a0<em>\u00a0<\/em>plus the\u00a0<em>Miami Herald\u00a0<\/em>and Jacksonville\u2019s\u00a0<em>Times Union<\/em>\u00a0for tour press, I made the cut \u2013 and flew to Cleveland to experience a band that included blind Country Music Hall of Famer Hargus \u201cPig\u201d Robbins on piano, wunderkind multi-instrumentalist Anthony Crawford, Louisiana fiddler Rufus Thibodeaux, \u00a0and steel player Ben Keith.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cHow\u2019d you do it?\u201d came the voice down the line. No hello, no identification. Matter of fact, to the point and filled with respect.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cI\u2019m sorry\u2026\u201d I said, laughing.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cNeil Young. How\u2019d you make that happen?\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cDo I know you?\u201d I asked. There\u2019d been some petty back-stabbing, even from friends. I just wanted to establish what this conversation was.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cHolly, it\u2019s Dave Marsh,\u201d laughing now as well. \u201cI read your\u00a0<em>Pulse<\/em>\u00a0piece. It was good. I really enjoyed it. And I was impressed you got that interview, knowing how many people wanted to talk to him.\u201d<br \/>\u201cOh,\u201d I said, getting the lay of the land. \u201cYeah, Neil wanted to talk to \u2018real country writers,\u2019 or so they said. It was crazy. One of the\u00a0<em>Herald<\/em>\u00a0writers tried to pull it out from under me.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cThey didn\u2019t, though. Did they?\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cAre you kidding? I wasn\u2019t giving that interview up. I have to talk to Mickey Gilley and Lee Greenwood, that guy didn\u2019t\u2026 So who\u2019s the \u2018country writer\u2019?\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">He laughed harder. \u201cGuess it\u2019s a bad idea to pick a fight with you\u2026\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cCome on. If he wants a country writer, the person slogging through TG Sheppard and Sylvia\u2019s the one.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cYeah, but it\u2019s funny. And you know what?\u201d<br \/>\u201cWhat?\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cYou nailed it. You got the authenticity he obviously wanted, but you also leaned into that part of him that comes from rock. You brought them together without making anything feel forced. That\u2019s a good thing.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I let the words settle. Praise. From someone I read, no, revered.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cThank you.\u201d My Dad said it makes the embarrassment stop. Acknowledged the compliment, the other person moves on.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cAnd that\u2019s not an easy thing to do, either.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cYou don\u2019t think so?\u201d I knew he knew much more than I did. I knew how hard I worked on my stories. But I was still a kid, never mind one with a God-given gift that was far larger than actual experience.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cNo, to make it seamless like you did, that\u2019s a big deal. It never felt like you were propping one thing or the other up. And you really do know the country stuff, that was clear.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cDamn,\u201d It escaped before I realized.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cDo you have good editors?\u201d he asked.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cYeah, maybe.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cWhat does that mean?\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cSome think I\u2019m a kid, or a girl\u2026\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cYou are a girl,\u201d he echoed, not sure what I was trying to say.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cYeah, but like a girl who\u2019s not as good as a boy would be.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cI see.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cDoes that make sense?\u201d I asked. Sexism was so baked in, people didn\u2019t always notice.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cLook, you\u2019re a rock writer. Period. Your gender isn\u2019t part of it, your heart is. That\u2019s what matters. Just don\u2019t sell your heart out. Don\u2019t fall for garbage. Don\u2019t write someone else\u2019s agenda.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cGot it.\u201d I said, sensing the spot for punctuation.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cI don\u2019t have an assignment for you,\u201d he said. \u201cBut here\u2019s my number. If you need anything, call.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cLike what?\u201d My inside voice had escaped again.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cI don\u2019t know. Even to talk about getting inside a story and not being able to get out.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cGot it,\u201d I lied. I had no idea. But I sure wasn\u2019t calling to tell him I didn\u2019t know how to finish a story.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cYou\u2019re better than you know,\u201d he said. \u201cKeep writing.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cThanks.\u201d Heart-racing, I wanted to get off the phone before I said something stupid.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cI mean it,\u201d he said, probably sensing my awe, or doubt, or youth.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cGot it,\u201d I replied, wanting to make it stop.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cGood. Who knows where this goes? But find out.\u201d<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_423572\" style=\"width: 690px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-423572\" class=\"wp-image-423572 size-medium\" src=\"https:\/\/www.counterpunch.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/Screenshot-2026-08-23-at-6.35.16-AM-680x549.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"680\" height=\"549\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.counterpunch.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/Screenshot-2026-08-23-at-6.35.16-AM-680x549.png 680w, https:\/\/www.counterpunch.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/Screenshot-2026-08-23-at-6.35.16-AM-780x630.png 780w, https:\/\/www.counterpunch.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/Screenshot-2026-08-23-at-6.35.16-AM-768x620.png 768w, https:\/\/www.counterpunch.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/Screenshot-2026-08-23-at-6.35.16-AM-1536x1241.png 1536w, https:\/\/www.counterpunch.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/Screenshot-2026-08-23-at-6.35.16-AM-2048x1654.png 2048w, https:\/\/www.counterpunch.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/Screenshot-2026-08-23-at-6.35.16-AM-500x404.png 500w, https:\/\/www.counterpunch.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/Screenshot-2026-08-23-at-6.35.16-AM-600x485.png 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 680px) 100vw, 680px\"\/><\/p>\n<p id=\"caption-attachment-423572\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Dave Marsh during the Creem years. (Screen capture from video posted to X.)<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I didn\u2019t send stuff as often. He knew who I was. I didn\u2019t want to be annoying. When <em>Rock &amp; Roll Confidential<\/em> started \u2013 as a folded newsletter to keep the activism piece of rock &amp; roll collected in one place, an almost fanzine of doing the right thing, racial awareness, bad deals \u2013 it was Dave Marsh leading the charge. It was a nominal fee \u2013 maybe $5 \u2013 as I remember, but it was like joining the club.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cSun City,\u201d the Little Steven Van Zandt-driven all-star protest record that brought rock, pop, jazz and rap stars together to speak out against apartheid, Marsh was there as chief writer and witness. His book\u00a0<em>Sun City: Artists United Against Apartheid<\/em>\u2013\u00a0<em>The Struggle for Freedom in South Africa: The Making of the Record<\/em> was published by Penguin; its proceeds, like those from the song and the documentary, went directly to the Africa Fund, which helped the people in prison, their families and raised awareness of what apartheid was.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">But unlike the global food crisis pop culture moments, \u201cWe Are The World,\u201d which felt glossy, and Live Aid, held as massive stadium concerts on both sides of the Atlantic Ocean, this was gritty, diverse. Afrika Bambaataa, Lou Reed, Pat Benatar, Miles Davis, Joey Ramone, Jackson Browne, George Clinton, Jimmy Cliff, Hall &amp; Oates, Gil Scott-Heron, Bono, Bonnie Raitt, Run DMC, Pete Townsend, Peter Gabriel, Ruben Blades, Stanley Jordan, Springsteen and so many more \u2013 captured on the fly, singing, rapping, blowing their horn on a bold declaratory fist punch designed to make America\u2019s youth aware of a shell game being played that took South Afrucan segregation to asphyxiating levels, misled the world and drew performers under false pretenses. Today, Nelson Mandela is an icon. Then he was a prisoner, mostly buried so the symbol of what he represented couldn\u2019t throw light on injustice. \u201cSun City,\u201d with its forceful, euphoric chorus, did just that.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">It was 1985, as Springsteen was truly ascending to his own stadium-sized uniquity, no one really knew.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Dave Marsh, who\u2019d hit the\u00a0<em>New York Times\u00a0<\/em>best-seller list with 1979\u2019s glorious\u00a0<em>Born To Run<\/em>, which chronicled Springsteen\u2019s early years and ascendance, recognized what mattered. He rolled up his sleeves, dug in and started raising consciousness, using his own media credentials to leverage and legitimize what Van Zandt was doing.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Suddenly \u2013 and thanks to MTV and BET: Black Entertainment Television, both the hottest thing in music programming \u2013 \u201cSun City\u201d had meaningful forward motion. Roy Thomas Baker, who co-produced the track, knew how to create \u201chits.\u201d Even if radio didn\u2019t take it Top 10, the swerve in the grooves made it a song you heard coming out of windows, cars, breakrooms and floating as a topic people were discussing in bars, school and anywhere they got together.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I didn\u2019t get the assignment for the\u00a0<em>Herald<\/em>, but I had that number. I left a message, and Dave Marsh actually called me back. It was a brief conversation; I spoke of the Dazz Band, some Black music things I was doing beyond country music. He laughed, said, \u201cTake it anywhere, everywhere. You know, Holly, Gram Parsons left the Byrds after\u00a0<em>Sweetheart of the Rodeo<\/em> because they were supposed to play South Africa \u2013 and Keith Richards told him what that was all about.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cI thought it was because they just got too high and wanted to party.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cProbably, but it was Keith who explained apartheid to Gram, who being a Southerner from Georgia and Florida, he got it. Gram wouldn\u2019t get on the plane, tried to talk the other guys out of it, they say\u2026.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cDamn\u2026\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">What you don\u2019t know, right? Dave Marsh was such an agent of that. Pull back the carpet, draw the curtain, see what\u2019s behind what you\u2019re shown.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cSome of those country people might be good allies, or not. Just talk about it where you can, okay?\u201d<br \/>\u201cYes, sir\u2026\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">That was our relationship. Quick hits, landmine truth, maybe a laugh. It was glorious.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">When I was booked to do the Critics Panel at the New Music Seminar in 1990 \u2013 a summit of the coolest music acts, cutting edge execs, writers, producers, and people who loved all that \u2013 it was a behemoth grouping. Greg Sandow, the original music editor at\u00a0<em>Entertainment Weekly<\/em>, JD Considine from\u00a0<em>The Baltimore Sun<strong>,\u00a0<\/strong><\/em>also known for his hilarious \u201cQuick Hits\u201d in\u00a0<em>Musician<\/em>, Nelson George, the pre-eminent Black music critic in North America and editor for\u00a0<em>Billboard<\/em>, Anthony DeCurtis<em>, Rolling Stone<\/em>editor and primary writer, Robert Christgau, the\u00a0<em>Village Voice<\/em>\u2019s legendary Dean of Rock Critics, Milo Miles, the music editor of the\u00a0<em>Boston Phoenix<\/em>, myself and Marsh were set to discuss the state of criticism, shifts that were happening, the impact of video, what mattered to us.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Looking at the names, I knew: I was a token. By 1990, I was in\u00a0<em>Rolling Stone<\/em>\u00a0every issue, the\u00a0<em>Los Angeles Times<\/em>\u00a0multiple pieces some weeks, features editing at\u00a0<em>HITS,<\/em>\u00a0<em>Harpers Bazaar, Saturday Evening Post,<\/em>\u00a0even\u00a0<em>CREEM\u00a0<\/em>and so many more. That wasn\u2019t the point, women critics hadn\u2019t moved from the margins \u2013 next wave Ann Powers, Evelyn McDonnell, Karen Schoemer, Gina Arnold and Joy Press hadn\u2019t powered through \u2013 and I was one of the few.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I called Dave, who listened.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cBut you\u2019re going to do it?\u201d he said as I whined.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cOf course,\u201d I said. \u201cIf I don\u2019t, there are no women.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cWhat\u2019s the problem?\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cI don\u2019t want to go up there and have to talk about \u2018being a woman critic\u2019 like that\u2019s my deal\u2026 I don\u2019t want to be sitting there because I throw \u2018good for a girl.\u2019\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cI see\u2026\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cWell, do you?\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cYeah, you don\u2019t wanna talk about how being a woman influences what you do, or say that you get jobs because you\u2019re a girl, because of how that looks.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cYeah,\u201d I replied gratefully. He understood.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cThen don\u2019t.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cHuh?\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cLook, I love the way you write. I\u2019d never write like that, your voice is so your own \u2013 but I love your voice and your perspective. You show me things no one else does, make me feel the music\u2026\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cOkay\u2026,\u201d I offered, not sure what he was saying.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cIs it because you\u2019re a woman? I don\u2019t know. You\u2019re pretty tough to me. But I do think you go places, especially with songwriter artists, most guys wouldn\u2019t \u2013 and I think you care about the story without it having to be all about who you are in the telling, why your life is what the litmus should be.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">He stopped talking. We sat there for a beat.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cHolly, is it because you\u2019re a girl? Because you\u2019re a writer? Because you love music for everybody, and what it does to people? I don\u2019t know\u2026\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cI don\u2019t know that I\u2019ve ever thought about it.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cWell, there\u2019s nobody who writes about music the way you do, or brings what you bring. To me, that\u2019s your value. And, if you are the token girl\u2026\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cYes,\u201d I said, blushing and chastened.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cMaybe there\u2019s something in that you need to address.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Damn.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Looking around the holding room at the Times Square Marriott, the assembled critics were so classically unassuming, it would be hard to understand the power they wielded. Back when music magazines\u00a0<em>could<\/em>\u00a0change the trajectory of a band\u2019s career, when a few positive reviews changed an overlooked band\u2019s fate or added gravitas and meaning to a pop star\u2019s shine, these were the people doing it.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">And me.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Marsh walked up with his dead-end kid\/leprechaun grin, stuck out his hand and said, \u201cYou must be Holly\u2026\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">We both laughed as I riffed on the obvious, \u201cHow\u2019d you know?\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cYou think about what we talked about?\u201d he asked, seriously.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cI did,\u201d I replied.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cAnd\u2026\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cI just hate having to talk about being a woman in rock\u2026\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cYeah, I get that.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">We talked about how marginalizing it was, what we were listening to, were working on. I mentioned sneaking out to see <em>Do The Right Thing,<\/em> which had just opened, later that afternoon, wanting to see Spike Lee\u2019s breakthrough film in the city it was set in. He told me he\u2019d been to a screening; that he wanted to know what I thought.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Someone said we\u2019d be seated in alphabetical order, to help us find our places on the dias. That it was about time to go out into this massive ballroom. We all nodded. As we shuffled towards the door and into the room service\/kitchen hall that led to where we were going, Dave looked over his shoulder at me, nodded and mouthed, \u201cYou know what to do.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">After opening remarks, introducing ourselves, addressing the impact music video had on both breaking acts who couldn\u2019t get on the radio and shifting the focus to visuals from songs, people went down the table, saying a bit about how they got there and what was important to them.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">When it was my turn, I looked out \u2013 and saw so many college-aged girls, young and not so young women. I closed my eyes. \u201cYou\u2019ll know what to do\u2026\u201d swirled in my head.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Exhaling, I smiled. Looked at Nelson George, then J.D. Considine, then out into the packed ballroom. After that one beat, I announced, \u201cI\u2019m a token.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Some gasped. Some laughed. Some looked on speechless.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cI am,\u201d I explained. \u201cI stood in the greenroom, vowing before I came out here, I wasn\u2019t going to talk about being a woman in rock, that I wasn\u2019t going to work that worn-out track. But then looking at all of you, I realized: you need to hear this, to see it and know if you want to write, insist and keep coming back, keep pushing forward and trying.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I talked about a lot of rejection, and not caring. I spoke about editors who\u2019d say sexist things, diminish you because you don\u2019t write like a straight guy who didn\u2019t date much, which got a laugh \u2013 even from some of the panelists. I spoke from my heart, spoke truth to what it feels like when you know you\u2019re seen as less than but keep doing it anyway.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">From the corner of my eye, I swear I saw a fist punch forward from the other side of the table. Maybe it was wishful hoping.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400; text-align: left;\">When I finished my four minutes, people \u2013 not just the girls \u2013 cheered. In talking about other perspectives in how <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hollygleason.com\/woman-walk-the-line\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-423573 alignright\" src=\"https:\/\/www.counterpunch.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/gleasonbook.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"200\" height=\"322\"\/><\/a>music is seen, I\u2019d made the point there isn\u2019t just one way to love or embrace music, that different kinds of music speak to different people, invoking country as a perfect counter example, and that in that truth, why wouldn\u2019t any kind of music also speak in different ways to people who aren\u2019t like you can embrace it.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cExcept for Rush, Rush is its own ecosystem.\u201d Known for their heavily male audience, people laughed.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Dave Marsh was right, of course.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Take it personally, make it personal. Hang tough for who you are \u2013 and know what you believe in. Then stand up for those things, use your voice and honor the people you\u2019re speaking to with something they need to know and maybe haven\u2019t considered.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">When the floor was opened to questions, the man who\u2019d had a major hand in getting me fired, a competitor critic who\u2019d been envious of my ability to freelance and connect with artists, strode up to the mic. Scanning the table, but lingering only on the most important, he jammed his hands in his pockets and asked, \u201cSo, how close is too close? How acceptable is it to be close to these artists you write about? When does it become a conflict of interest?\u201d<br \/>My face flushed. I\u2019d left South Florida, moved to Los Angeles to be with my boyfriend and flourished as a writer. This guy, who\u2019d done nothing except take the job he got me shoved out of with a bunch of lies, was still coming for me.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I whispered to JD, \u201cThat\u2019s about me.\u201d The calm, bow-tied critic put his hand on my elbow.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Marsh, whose wife co-managed Springsteen, thought he was the one being attacked. Leaning forward, he said, \u201cIt\u2019s a conflict of interest if you\u2019re looking to get something out of it, if you\u2019re thinking it\u2019s about friendship or access. If you know the people you write about, it\u2019s your moral obligation to tell the truth, to set them straight when they\u2019re wrong.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cAccess is responsibility, and if you have it, there should never be a question you\u2019re going to tell the truth\u2026 Ever. And a lot of time, those truths aren\u2019t easy, or fun.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">My eyes were massive. I put my fingers under my thighs and bit the insides of my cheeks.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Greg Sandow, who\u2019d been the critic at the\u00a0<em>Los Angeles Herald-Examiner<\/em>\u00a0and was known for his parties where Ice Cube and Tiffany would both show up, picked up right.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cHow can you write effectively about someone you don\u2019t know? How can what you say be valid if you don\u2019t understand who these people are? Do you really think that having a few meals or spending time with an artist compromises you? Maybe the question is: who are you that it\u2019s being questioned? Maybe that\u2019s the larger issue\u2026\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I thought I was going to die. Sometimes God does what you can\u2019t.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cSee\u2026\u201d J.D. whispered. I nodded.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The panel wrapped after a few more questions. People flooded Marsh, Nelson George, Christgau; a few grabbed Sandow to ask about writing for the fairly new\u00a0<em>Entertainment Weekly<\/em>, and I had a bunch of women or men with sisters or friends thanking me for what I\u2019d said. It was almost a blur, because that question had thrown me.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">When it was over and we were going back to get our things, I loitered to walk back with Dave. He could tell I was waiting, and held up a finger while he finished a very passionate exchange.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cYou did great,\u201d he said, eyes sparkling like they did when he was lit up on a topic. \u201cI knew you would know what to do, and I knew how much people needed to hear that.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cOh, yeah,\u201d I said, taken off-guard. \u201cThanks\u2026 But that wasn\u2019t what I was gonna tell you.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cOh,\u201d he seemed surprised.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cThe guy who asked the question\u2026\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cWhat an a%*&amp;$!#,\u201d he laughed. \u201cWho does he think he is? And that book was so long ago.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cHe wasn\u2019t coming for you, he was coming for me\u2026\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201c<em>You?\u201d<\/em>\u00a0Now the great Dave Marsh was genuinely surprised. I explained pettiness, small-town jealousy, getting fired. He loved every bit of it, \u201cbecause you, Holly, have real talent. You understand artists and how to connect, and they see that. I read you, and I watch. That guy? Clearly he doesn\u2019t\u2026\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cWell, I wanted to apologize \u2013 and say thank you,\u201d I began. \u201cYou didn\u2019t deserve that, but I loved every bit of what you said to him. Last thing he saw coming.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">A perfunctory nod. Dave Marsh didn\u2019t love compliments.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cLook, you\u2019re going to do this a long time. You have to know: lesser people are going to swing at you, try and even take you down. You\u2019re a Midwestern kid, Rust Belt, you know the deal: They don\u2019t respect us, but we don\u2019t quit. We keep coming. We know our worth and our truth, and they can\u2019t take that.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Now I was the one nodding.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cKnow that: they can\u2019t take it from you. Just make sure they don\u2019t talk you into giving it away.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">And so, Dave Marsh fixed me with those eyes that saw all the way into you, pressed his lips together and paused to know I got it. I had a movie to get to; he had a meeting with someone far more important than I.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">We kept talking over the years, always about music, but also the moral compass, issues that mattered, how you keep raising the bar when nobody else wanted to even think about basic standards. Sometimes I\u2019d call when I was sad, other times when I was fired up; but always when I wanted to get my clarity on. It was hard to leave a conversation with Dave \u2013 even something as mundane as pitching an artist for him to write about in\u00a0<em>Playboy<\/em>, where he reviewed records for years \u2013 without being fired up.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">When his daughter Kristen Ann Carr spent two years battling sarcoma before succumbing in 1993, he was very open about how vulnerable it felt to not be able to find a solution, to create a way to get where they had a cure. He was a father, and it hurt, took strength and determination.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">As a young woman not many years older, I could feel the angst, but also his will to fight however they could. I said a lot of prayers, a lot of rosaries and always made sure to let him know he was in my heart. Listen on the rare occasions he went there, distracted with talk of Detroit songwriter\/rocker Stewart Francke, Patty Loveless or whatever.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">When my own father fell into extreme lung cancer, I didn\u2019t know who to call. Overwhelmed \u2013 as he\u2019d hid the diagnosis, the largest part of treatment from me \u2013 I\u2019d cold-called the stepdown facilities in Palm Beach County until I found him. Alone, too weak to go through chemo and live at home, he\u2019d been checked in \u2013 and mostly forgotten about by everyone but his brother, who was co-ordinating the treatment.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Once I knew, I was on a plane. Unprepared to see the gaunt, skeletal man in a hospital bed, I went into shock. \u201cWhy didn\u2019t you tell me?\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cI was going to when I got better\u2026.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Delusional? Or Marine tough, not wanting to put his kid out?<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cDad, this isn\u2019t the flu. It\u2019s not like that.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cDon\u2019t lecture me.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">When you see someone so frail, so barely alive, lecturing is the last thing you\u2019re going to do.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cWell, I\u2019m here now, and you\u2019re stuck with me.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cI don\u2019t think you should. You have a business to run.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cI talk on the phone, Dad. I can do that from anywhere\u2026,\u201d which isn\u2019t quite true. You have to show up, to cover things, to make sure execution is done properly.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The nurse came in. \u201cMr. Gleason, is everything alright?\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">He eyed her. Clearly he wasn\u2019t big on being trapped in this moment. Dad knew how to make friends with everyone.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cI\u2019m his daughter\u2026\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cDaughter?\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cYes, ma\u2019am. Dad didn\u2019t want to tell me he\u2019s sick. He was going to tell me when he was better.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cMr. Gleason, this isn\u2019t the flu\u2026,\u201d she said. \u201cBut it is almost dinner time.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Clearly, she was trying to get me out of there.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cOkay, tell you what: Dad, I\u2019m coming back tomorrow. Tell me what you want. Tell me what\u2019s going on then. We\u2019ll figure this out.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The lady sitting by the other bed whispered to an older man, \u201cHe has a daughter. How \u2018bout that?\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I waited near the door, told the woman I\u2019d heard from one of his friends he\u2019d not been coming to their group. Calling my cousin, I knew it was lung cancer, but he wouldn\u2019t tell me how bad. \u201cLooking at him, it\u2019s terrible, maybe terminal, right?\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cI can\u2019t really talk about it,\u201d she said, regretfully. \u201cFlorida HIPAA laws. You\u2019re not on the list. I didn\u2019t even know you existed. I\u2019m so sorry.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cI get it. But they\u2019re not coming to see him, right? His friends don\u2019t know where he is.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cI can\u2019t really tell you that, either.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cOkay, I\u2019m sorry. Florida and bad kids circling the will\u2026 I get it. Thanks for being nice.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I fished the rental car keys from my purse\u00a0and walked away. She needed to know I wasn\u2019t going to be a problem.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Bursting into a thunderhead of tears in the car, I let it out. No one is prepared to see their parent that close to death, or in that kind of shape. I ran a boutique company with one employee and a very high rate of placement, awards nominations, and cultural impact. I was always stretched thin, but ready to make it happen. This wasn\u2019t on my dance card.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Howling and shaking, I knew giving into this wasn\u2019t productive. What could I do? Who could I call? My father always said when you didn\u2019t know, think who you knew who had the closest experience. Was there someone who\u2019d been through something similar? Even if it wasn\u2019t the same, they might have enough insight to get you moving.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Dave Marsh. But, whoa\u2026 Was this cruel?<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Our most recent interactions had been around the CMA Song of the Year winning artist\/songwriter Gretchen Peters and pop-country\u2019s Hal Ketchum, who\u2019d made a country album with Austin\u2019s legendary guitarist Stephen Bruton. He\u2019d loved Gretchen\u2019s starkness and whisper-to-merlot full voice, if he\u2019d not loved the radio-friendly additions to Bruton\u2019s original Ketchum production.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The car\u2019s windows were steaming up, and I needed to puncture this rush of emotions. I pulled out my little phone book, punched the numbers into my cell phone and heard the ring. Was it dirty pool? Did I have the right to ask for this kind of help?<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cHello.\u201d That voice, so direct and ready.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cDave, it\u2019s Holly\u2026\u201d All I could get out before I started to break.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cEverything okay?\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cNo,\u201d I said, \u201cand I didn\u2019t know who to call.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I explained what my father had said about \u201cthe person who had the closest experience to what I needed.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cSmart man,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cHe has cancer. It\u2019s bad.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Dropping the anvil, I could feel a little bit of air go out of the other side of the phone.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cI\u2019m sorry, I almost didn\u2019t call. It\u2019s only been a few years, and I know what my aunt went through losing her youngest to leukemia.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cNo, no,\u201d he came back. \u201cThis is important. How did you find out? What do you know?\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Dave was aware of my messy family. I walked him through the surprise, not knowing anything.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cOkay, here\u2019s what you need to find out,\u201d he began, in full field marshal precision. \u201cYou need a read on what stage, what kind, has it spread\u2026 You need to find out who the social worker is, if there\u2019s a liaison\u2026 Are you writing this down?\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cYes, I\u2019m writing it on the rental agreement. I\u2019ll transfer when we finish.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cNo, get a notebook. I know you\u2019ve got one.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">When I was ready, he continued. Protocols, questions to ask, things to make sure were in place.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cYour uncle isn\u2019t going to tell you?\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cI wouldn\u2019t bet on it.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cFine, you can do this. No, you have to do it, because I know how much you love your father.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I snuffled a bit. Overwhelmed by his encouragement.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cAnd Holly, call me. If you need help, reach out.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">That began a whole new line of calls to Dave. Not about records or artists I felt betrayed by, clients I was working, or events I was hoping to see him at, but what to do.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I deemed him \u201cmy cancer coach,\u201d and cross-checked everything I was told.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I took a Public Enemy approach \u2013 by any means necessary \u2013 and got the President of the hospital Dad ate at to intervene with the social worker. She couldn\u2019t talk to me, but the President gave me her name, got her to leave Dad\u2019s folder on her desk while she was \u201cat lunch.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">People could\u2019ve been fired, but the man knew me from all those cafeteria dinners, from cassettes my father had given him over the years. To have that kind of grace helped.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cWhat does this mean?\u201d I\u2019d ask, and get an explanation, a suggestion.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">When the oncologist basically said it was about doing the chemo, but knowing it most likely wouldn\u2019t work, I called Dave desperate.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">His response was blast furnace intense.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cHolly, it\u2019s Florida. They\u2019re in the business of wringing out these old people\u2019s Medicare, then dumping them in the ground. You go get in his face\u2026\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cIf I\u2019m too agrressive, I\u2019m afraid they\u2019ll be mean to Dad or not care.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cYou\u2019ve got to be kidding me. Where is that punk rock kid? That girl from Rust Belt Cleveland? You\u2019re tougher than this\u2026\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cI just\u2026\u201d I stammered.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cWell, okay, Holly. This guy clearly doesn\u2019t care. It\u2019s one more file. He\u2019s not invested. If you\u2019re not going to go give him hell, then you might as well go out back of where he gets his chemo and dig a hole and the two of you can push him in\u2026\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I gulped. \u201c<em>What?!\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cI\u2019ve known you a long time, and you\u2019ve always been a fighter for what you believe in\u2026 You\u2019ve always stood up for what\u2019s right. What\u2019s going on? This is your father\u2019s life\u2026\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cBut if I yell at him\u2026\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cAND WHAT? Make him do his job? Get him to engage the way he should \u2013 and probably rarely does Screw this guy. That\u2019s\u2026 your\u2026 FATHER\u2026\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I could feel something rising inside me. A sufferer of panic disorder, I was terrified it was an anxiety attack \u2013 as I was far from my hotel, and knew I\u2019d lose sense of place and time. Whatever it was, it was not going to be denied.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cOh, oh\u2026\u201d I said, feeling the surge. Then it hit me: it wasn\u2019t a panic attack, it was resolve.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cDave!\u201d I uttered.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cYes\u2026\u201d he was tentative, concerned it might\u2019ve been too much.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cYou\u2019re right. Oh my god, he doesn\u2019t care\u2026 He sees this all day long. One more corpse on its way to the funeral parlor\u2026\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cThat\u2019s what I was trying to get you to understand. He\u2019s numb. His job is get that Medicare money. Other than that, maybe not suffering. But he\u2019s not about keeping people alive.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cWhew\u2026\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cYou okay?\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Exhaling, I wasn\u2019t sure. \u201cI just need a few minutes to regroup.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cTake as long as you like, call me back if you need to.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I said goodbye, turned over the ignition. There was so much adrenaline, I was trying to control my breathing to manage it. Clearly not cortisol, because I wasn\u2019t shaking or fearful, I felt empowered and clear.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Taking the car over the Lake Worth Bridge, I drove up A1A with the window down. I smelled the salt in the air, thinking about driving this road with my father before all the condos happened. It was a waste of scrub pines, dunes and saw grass, dotted with trailers selling the buildings before ground was even broken.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">We\u2019d stayed at the Howard Johnson on the ocean side of that bridge, the middle ground between fancy Palm Beach and Golf Road, where the good courses in Palm Beach County were. Now I was driving myself, thinking about the state that my father was in.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Yelled at by a man whose passion was his greatest truth, but he wasn\u2019t yelling to offload his own aggravation at life, but to help me protect what he knew was precious to me. It worked.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Where there was a break between the buildings, the ocean was still tossing waves with white foamy heads towards the shore. It was summer, and it was hot. The pace was so slow, yet, everything for me was moving in fast forward.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">When I hit the curve where the mansions got serious, I called him back.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cThanks,\u201d I said when he answered.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cFor what?\u201d Dave Marsh seemed genuinely perplexed.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cFor yelling at me,\u201d I said.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cMost people don\u2019t thank me for that.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cYeah, but you had to get through. I don\u2019t think I could\u2019ve heard you otherwise.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cI know,\u201d he said. His tone was kind. He understood.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cThank you. I\u2019m so conditioned to \u2018be nice,\u2019 to \u2018be compliant\u2019\u2026\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cYou\u2019ve been in the South too long. Those people are ruining you.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">We both laughed. He was probably right.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cThe girl I know is a fighter. She knows what\u2019s right, and she doesn\u2019t get along to go along\u2026 She stands up for what she believes in\u2026\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cI know,\u201d I said, chastened but still overwhelmed.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cI can\u2019t think of many things you believe in more than your father. You\u2019re always telling me something he told you, how valuable the lesson was. Nothing\u2019s more important than that\u2026 But those people don\u2019t care.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cYeah. So what do I do?\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cGo yell at that doctor. Give him no uncertain terms, and let him know you\u00a0<em>will<\/em>\u00a0make his life miserable.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cGot it,\u201d but even I was convinced.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cAnd if you can find a way to throw that President\u2019s name around, making sure the oncologist knows who he is. Let that guy know how much he loves your Dad \u2013 without getting the social worker in trouble \u2013 and you\u2019ve got leverage.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cYeah, you\u2019re right.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cOf course, I am. This isn\u2019t easy stuff, kid. It\u2019s hard, and you\u2019re feeling all of it because you care. Use that to your advantage. God knows: I\u2019ve seen you lay people out. This is your wheelhouse.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I took his advice. My father had been researching a book on the history of men\u2019s American amateur golf for seventeen, eighteen years. I used that to get dad engaged and invested. I gave the oncologist, who kept pushing back, a very clear sense that it wasn\u2019t going to work on me.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I flew back and forth every three weeks for every single chemo appointment, sitting in the hall outside the big room with all the people in the recliners getting their chemical IVs and making calls. When I was exhausted, couldn\u2019t find the heart, I\u2019d call Dave with an update.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">He\u2019d read between the lines for me, tell me what was up. Encouraging me to keep bringing him food that wasn\u2019t hospital food, it started working. Lo and behold: he gained weight, got stronger, defied the odds. Dad got 17 more months. He didn\u2019t finish that book, but he got to really live and love life even more than he already had.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">When Daddy passed, Dave and Barbara Carr sent flowers. When I explained to my aunt who they were, she seemed impressed.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">That\u2019s the thing about Dave. Whether you heard him on SiriusXM doing \u201cKick Out the Jams,\u201d \u201cLive from the Land of Hope and Dreams,\u201d or \u201cLive from E Street Nation,\u201d sat on boards or panels with him, saw him play in the Rock Bottom Remainders, a band featuring several best-selling authors, he was always impressive.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The work for the Kristen Ann Carr Fund at Sloan Kettering, the Rock Hall nominating committee, several blues and folk organizations- he came hard and he came proper. If there was work to do, whether raising consciousness or money, he was game. And smart. He had ideas, and wasn\u2019t afraid to color outside the lines.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Never mind that he dropped out of Wayne State University, left Pontiac, Michigan and became a cultural force. He never lost that blue-collar punch, never forgot it was the people nobody looked at who really mattered. He was a populist who knew more about wine than almost anyone I knew. He existed in the rarified air around not just Bruce Springsteen, but too many at that level of fame to reckon. He won a Grammy for co-writing the liner notes for Aretha Franklin\u2019s\u00a0<em>The Queen of Soul \u2013 The Atlantic Years.<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">And his books, especially\u00a0<em>Born to Run<\/em>\u00a0and\u00a0<em>Glory Days<\/em>, but also about the Who, Black Sabbath, Creedence Clearwater Revival and even \u201cLouie, Louie,\u201d brought the music to life. Not a stack of facts, but the way one\u2019s heartbeat was impacted by what you heard on the radio.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">He was generous, blurbing\u00a0<em>Woman Walk The Line<\/em>:\u00a0<em>How The Women of Country Music Changed Our Lives<\/em>\u00a0and\u00a0<em>Prine on Prine: Interviews &amp; Encounters<\/em>\u00a0with quotes that spoke to what each book truly meant. Not just phoning in something gushing, he took it to heart \u2013 and he made sure the potential reader did, too.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_423576\" style=\"width: 690px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-423576\" class=\"wp-image-423576 size-medium\" src=\"https:\/\/www.counterpunch.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/daverockbottomremainders-680x463.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"680\" height=\"463\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.counterpunch.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/daverockbottomremainders-680x463.png 680w, https:\/\/www.counterpunch.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/daverockbottomremainders-924x630.png 924w, https:\/\/www.counterpunch.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/daverockbottomremainders-768x523.png 768w, https:\/\/www.counterpunch.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/daverockbottomremainders-1536x1047.png 1536w, https:\/\/www.counterpunch.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/daverockbottomremainders-2048x1396.png 2048w, https:\/\/www.counterpunch.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/daverockbottomremainders-500x341.png 500w, https:\/\/www.counterpunch.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/daverockbottomremainders-600x409.png 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 680px) 100vw, 680px\"\/><\/p>\n<p id=\"caption-attachment-423576\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Dave Marsh, one of the original Rock Bottom Remainders. (Screen capture from video posted to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=eRg1SsUn7UA\">YouTube<\/a>.)<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The last time I saw Dave was at the Southern Festival of Books. He was there with the equally compelling Daniel Wolff, who writes about social issues, music and America from a history-driven place. He\u2019d made my friend Daryl Sanders, whose\u00a0<em>Thin Wild Mercury Sound<\/em>\u00a0was also being presented that year, get me.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">We were standing by the book tables joshing and talking about all three of their book tours. Clearly Dave was in his element, feeling the intellectual joy of the conversation.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">He looked at me. \u201cYou got a copy of\u00a0<em>Woman Walk The Line?\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I didn\u2019t, but was able to get one from the University of Texas Press table. Chucking, he slyly looked at Daniel and bragged, \u201cDid you see the marketing campaign for this?\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I was stunned. I thought he just wanted me to give it to Wolff, who hadn\u2019t read it. Dave was explaining all the famous people who\u2019d posed, reading the book \u2013 or holding it out in endorsement.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cCome on, I got an idea,\u201d Dave said out of the corner of his mouth. \u00a0Then to me, \u201cGet your phone out.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The two legends riffed back and forth with a couple dollars and the book, making it like it was some kind of contraband deal going down. Delighted, they were doing \u201cthe thing,\u201d but putting a slightly subversive twist on it.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Snickering, adjusting how the money was changing hands, they wanted maximum impact. Shania Twain on a jet\u2026 Alice Cooper like a centerfold\u2026 Keith Urban in a hotel room\u2026 Emmylou Harris on a documentary set\u2026 even Lyle Lovett, the OG\u00a0<em>WWTL<\/em>er, backstage at Cain Park\u2026 Nothing packed the sheer relish these esteemed authors were feeling.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cThanks,\u201d I said when they finally created the image they wanted.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">At the window-boxed Author Reception seven stories up, we were all in a darker corner quietly talking that night. Some was history, some was life. Knowing how much he hated compliments, I wanted to say \u201cthank you\u201d for all of it, but I picked something I thought he\u2019d find benign.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cThat picture today was crazy.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">He smirked with glee. \u201cReal spirit of the underbelly,\u201d he agreed.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cIt was so cool, and an endorsement that\u2019s subversive\u2026\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cYeah, that was the point.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">He could feel me ramping up. He wasn\u2019t having it. Before I could talk, he kept going.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cYou know what\u2019s funny,\u201d he said rhetorically; a question he didn\u2019t want an answer to. \u201cAll those years ago when you didn\u2019t want to talk about being a woman in rock at that panel, and then you did\u2026.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cYeah,\u201d I said, knowing this was the final word.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cThat book makes good on all of it.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">That was Dave. Maddening, opinionated, willing to go deep and keep going. Closing bigger circles than you ever realized.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Everywhere he went, he stirred the room, challenged what people thought. But in the end, when you look at all of it \u2013 what he celebrated and decried, what and how he loved \u2013 his life is like that: something that made good on all of it.<\/p>\n<p><em>This first appeared on <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hollygleason.com\/woman-walk-the-line\">Holly Gleason\u2019s<\/a> site.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Dave Marsh on \u201cSpeaking Freely,\u201d at the Newseum, July 2002. (Screen capture.) They were titans to us, Midwestern kids enthralled by rock music, mythic Greek figures who communicated truths about, directly to the rock stars we loved. 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