{"id":7028900,"date":"2026-08-05T18:02:16","date_gmt":"2026-08-05T18:02:16","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/peraltafinancing.com\/uncategorized\/some-details-on-actual-rcv-elections-that-counters-the-pro-rcv-narrative-the-liberal-oc\/"},"modified":"2026-08-05T18:02:16","modified_gmt":"2026-08-05T18:02:16","slug":"some-details-on-actual-rcv-elections-that-counters-the-pro-rcv-narrative-the-liberal-oc","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/fivemor.com\/?p=7028900","title":{"rendered":"Some Details on Actual RCV Elections that counters the Pro-RCV Narrative \u2013 The Liberal OC"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div>\n<figure class=\"entry-thumbnail\">\n<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/theliberaloc.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/11\/2000-recount.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"Florida Recount\"\/><br \/>\n<\/figure>\n<p><span class=\"css-1jxf684 r-bcqeeo r-1ttztb7 r-qvutc0 r-poiln3 r-1adg3ll r-1g7jtus r-1x3r274\"><span class=\"css-1jxf684 r-bcqeeo r-1ttztb7 r-qvutc0 r-poiln3\"><span class=\"css-1jxf684 r-bcqeeo r-1ttztb7 r-qvutc0 r-poiln3 r-b88u0q r-1x3r274\"><span class=\"css-1jxf684 r-bcqeeo r-1ttztb7 r-qvutc0 r-poiln3 r-1x3r274\">Ranked Choice Voting: The Overhyped Mess That Promised Paradise and Delivered Chaos<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1jxf684 r-bcqeeo r-1ttztb7 r-qvutc0 r-poiln3 r-1adg3ll r-1g7jtus r-1x3r274\"><span class=\"css-1jxf684 r-bcqeeo r-1ttztb7 r-qvutc0 r-poiln3\"><span class=\"css-1jxf684 r-bcqeeo r-1ttztb7 r-qvutc0 r-poiln3 r-1x3r274\">Ranked Choice Voting was sold to us like a miracle cure for American elections. No more spoilers! Majority winners guaranteed! Civil campaigns where candidates court second-place love instead of torching each other! Voters finally get their \u201ctrue preferences\u201d expressed in a glorious multi-round symphony of democracy! <\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"css-1jxf684 r-bcqeeo r-1ttztb7 r-qvutc0 r-poiln3 r-1adg3ll r-1g7jtus r-1x3r274\"><span class=\"css-1jxf684 r-bcqeeo r-1ttztb7 r-qvutc0 r-poiln3\"><span class=\"css-1jxf684 r-bcqeeo r-1ttztb7 r-qvutc0 r-poiln3 r-1x3r274\">Spoiler alert: in Alaska 2022 and New York City\u2019s 2021 mayoral primaries, the symphony sounded more like a toddler smashing a xylophone while the adults argued over the sheet music.<\/span><\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1jxf684 r-bcqeeo r-1ttztb7 r-qvutc0 r-poiln3 r-1adg3ll r-1g7jtus r-1x3r274\"><span class=\"css-1jxf684 r-bcqeeo r-1ttztb7 r-qvutc0 r-poiln3\"><span class=\"css-1jxf684 r-bcqeeo r-1ttztb7 r-qvutc0 r-poiln3 r-1x3r274\">Start with Alaska\u2019s special House election in 2022. The state had just rolled out its shiny new Top-Four primary plus ranked-choice general, courtesy of a ballot measure that promised better representation and less polarization. <\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"css-1jxf684 r-bcqeeo r-1ttztb7 r-qvutc0 r-poiln3 r-1adg3ll r-1g7jtus r-1x3r274\"><span class=\"css-1jxf684 r-bcqeeo r-1ttztb7 r-qvutc0 r-poiln3\"><span class=\"css-1jxf684 r-bcqeeo r-1ttztb7 r-qvutc0 r-poiln3 r-1x3r274\">What happened? <\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"css-1jxf684 r-bcqeeo r-1ttztb7 r-qvutc0 r-poiln3 r-1adg3ll r-1g7jtus r-1x3r274\"><span class=\"css-1jxf684 r-bcqeeo r-1ttztb7 r-qvutc0 r-poiln3\"><span class=\"css-1jxf684 r-bcqeeo r-1ttztb7 r-qvutc0 r-poiln3 r-1x3r274\">In a deep-red state that hadn\u2019t sent a Democrat to that seat in nearly half a century, Democrat Mary Peltola beat former Governor Sarah Palin. Cue the Republican meltdown, and for once they had a point about the system\u2019s quirks.<\/span><\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1jxf684 r-bcqeeo r-1ttztb7 r-qvutc0 r-poiln3 r-1adg3ll r-1g7jtus r-1x3r274\"><span class=\"css-1jxf684 r-bcqeeo r-1ttztb7 r-qvutc0 r-poiln3\"><span class=\"css-1jxf684 r-bcqeeo r-1ttztb7 r-qvutc0 r-poiln3 r-1x3r274\">First-round results: Peltola around 40%, Palin about 31%, Republican Nick Begich roughly 28%. No majority, so Begich gets eliminated. His second-choice votes get redistributed. Most go to Palin, but enough leak to Peltola that she scrapes past 50% of the <\/span><span class=\"css-1jxf684 r-bcqeeo r-1ttztb7 r-qvutc0 r-poiln3 r-1x3r274 r-36ujnk\"><span class=\"css-1jxf684 r-bcqeeo r-1ttztb7 r-qvutc0 r-poiln3 r-1x3r274\">remaining<\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1jxf684 r-bcqeeo r-1ttztb7 r-qvutc0 r-poiln3 r-1x3r274\"> ballots. Tom Cotton tweeted the obvious: roughly 60% of voters ranked a Republican first, yet a Democrat \u201cwon.\u201d <\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"css-1jxf684 r-bcqeeo r-1ttztb7 r-qvutc0 r-poiln3 r-1adg3ll r-1g7jtus r-1x3r274\"><span class=\"css-1jxf684 r-bcqeeo r-1ttztb7 r-qvutc0 r-poiln3\"><span class=\"css-1jxf684 r-bcqeeo r-1ttztb7 r-qvutc0 r-poiln3 r-1x3r274\">Ballot exhaustion\u2014those voters who ranked Begich and stopped\u2014helped seal it. About one-fifth of Begich\u2019s ballots just vanished from further counting.<\/span><\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1jxf684 r-bcqeeo r-1ttztb7 r-qvutc0 r-poiln3 r-1adg3ll r-1g7jtus r-1x3r274\"><span class=\"css-1jxf684 r-bcqeeo r-1ttztb7 r-qvutc0 r-poiln3\"><span class=\"css-1jxf684 r-bcqeeo r-1ttztb7 r-qvutc0 r-poiln3 r-1x3r274\">Even better for the \u201cRCV fixes everything\u201d crowd: Begich was the <strong>Condorcet<\/strong> winner. Head-to-head, more voters preferred him over both Peltola <\/span><span class=\"css-1jxf684 r-bcqeeo r-1ttztb7 r-qvutc0 r-poiln3 r-1x3r274 r-36ujnk\"><span class=\"css-1jxf684 r-bcqeeo r-1ttztb7 r-qvutc0 r-poiln3 r-1x3r274\">and<\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1jxf684 r-bcqeeo r-1ttztb7 r-qvutc0 r-poiln3 r-1x3r274\"> Palin. RCV still tossed him first because of vote-splitting among Republicans. The system that was supposed to eliminate the spoiler effect delivered a textbook center-squeeze. Some analyses noted the perverse incentives: certain Palin voters would have been better off staying home entirely, because their participation helped eliminate the candidate they preferred over the eventual winner. Progressive Democrat wins in Republican Alaska not because she was the consensus choice, but because the ranking algorithm performed its little magic trick. And results took weeks because, you know, complexity. Peak democracy.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"css-1jxf684 r-bcqeeo r-1ttztb7 r-qvutc0 r-poiln3 r-1adg3ll r-1g7jtus r-1x3r274\"><span class=\"css-1jxf684 r-bcqeeo r-1ttztb7 r-qvutc0 r-poiln3\"><span class=\"css-1jxf684 r-bcqeeo r-1ttztb7 r-qvutc0 r-poiln3 r-1x3r274\">Then there\u2019s New York City\u2019s 2021 Democratic mayoral primary, the city\u2019s first big ranked-choice experiment. Voters could rank up to five candidates. Advocates promised it would force niceness and produce a broad-appeal winner. Instead, we got the New York City Board of Elections doing what it does best: spectacular incompetence.<\/span><\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1jxf684 r-bcqeeo r-1ttztb7 r-qvutc0 r-poiln3 r-1adg3ll r-1g7jtus r-1x3r274\"><span class=\"css-1jxf684 r-bcqeeo r-1ttztb7 r-qvutc0 r-poiln3\"><span class=\"css-1jxf684 r-bcqeeo r-1ttztb7 r-qvutc0 r-poiln3 r-1x3r274\">On election night, Eric Adams led in first-choice votes. Days later, the Board released ranked tallies showing his lead collapsing toward Kathryn Garcia\u2014only to yank them hours later. Why? They had accidentally left 135,000 <\/span><span class=\"css-1jxf684 r-bcqeeo r-1ttztb7 r-qvutc0 r-poiln3 r-1x3r274 r-36ujnk\"><span class=\"css-1jxf684 r-bcqeeo r-1ttztb7 r-qvutc0 r-poiln3 r-1x3r274\">test ballots<\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1jxf684 r-bcqeeo r-1ttztb7 r-qvutc0 r-poiln3 r-1x3r274\"> in the system. Dummy data mixed with real votes, published to the public, then sheepishly retracted. The agency that couldn\u2019t clear test files was somehow going to flawlessly execute multi-round preference tabulation across a city of millions. <\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"css-1jxf684 r-bcqeeo r-1ttztb7 r-qvutc0 r-poiln3 r-1adg3ll r-1g7jtus r-1x3r274\"><span class=\"css-1jxf684 r-bcqeeo r-1ttztb7 r-qvutc0 r-poiln3\"><span class=\"css-1jxf684 r-bcqeeo r-1ttztb7 r-qvutc0 r-poiln3 r-1x3r274\">Final results dragged on for weeks. Adams ultimately won, but barely; Garcia came within about 8,000 votes after transfers. Exhausted ballots abounded. Voters who didn\u2019t rank far enough simply disappeared from later rounds.<\/span><\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1jxf684 r-bcqeeo r-1ttztb7 r-qvutc0 r-poiln3 r-1adg3ll r-1g7jtus r-1x3r274\"><span class=\"css-1jxf684 r-bcqeeo r-1ttztb7 r-qvutc0 r-poiln3\"><span class=\"css-1jxf684 r-bcqeeo r-1ttztb7 r-qvutc0 r-poiln3 r-1x3r274\">Did RCV deliver the civil campaign utopia? Adams denounced a Yang-Garcia cross-endorsement as a racist plot. Campaigns still went negative. The process that was supposed to clarify the public will instead produced days of confusion, recriminations, and a fresh wave of distrust in the already-notorious Board of Elections. Ranked choice didn\u2019t cause the test-ballot fiasco\u2014pure administrative bungling did\u2014but it layered extra complexity onto an agency that already struggled with basic counting. <\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"css-1jxf684 r-bcqeeo r-1ttztb7 r-qvutc0 r-poiln3 r-1adg3ll r-1g7jtus r-1x3r274\"><span class=\"css-1jxf684 r-bcqeeo r-1ttztb7 r-qvutc0 r-poiln3\"><span class=\"css-1jxf684 r-bcqeeo r-1ttztb7 r-qvutc0 r-poiln3 r-1x3r274\">When your shiny new voting method requires perfect software hygiene from people who leave dummy data in the live system, maybe the problem isn\u2019t just the operators.<\/span><\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1jxf684 r-bcqeeo r-1ttztb7 r-qvutc0 r-poiln3 r-1adg3ll r-1g7jtus r-1x3r274\"><span class=\"css-1jxf684 r-bcqeeo r-1ttztb7 r-qvutc0 r-poiln3\"><span class=\"css-1jxf684 r-bcqeeo r-1ttztb7 r-qvutc0 r-poiln3 r-1x3r274\">These cases expose the gap between the glossy brochure and reality. RCV does not reliably produce \u201cmajority\u201d winners of <\/span><span class=\"css-1jxf684 r-bcqeeo r-1ttztb7 r-qvutc0 r-poiln3 r-1x3r274 r-36ujnk\"><span class=\"css-1jxf684 r-bcqeeo r-1ttztb7 r-qvutc0 r-poiln3 r-1x3r274\">all<\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1jxf684 r-bcqeeo r-1ttztb7 r-qvutc0 r-poiln3 r-1x3r274\"> ballots cast; it produces majorities of non-exhausted ballots after successive eliminations. It does not eliminate spoilers or guarantee the Condorcet consensus candidate. It slows results, invites exhaustion, and can punish sincere first-choice voting in multi-candidate fields. <\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"css-1jxf684 r-bcqeeo r-1ttztb7 r-qvutc0 r-poiln3 r-1adg3ll r-1g7jtus r-1x3r274\"><span class=\"css-1jxf684 r-bcqeeo r-1ttztb7 r-qvutc0 r-poiln3\"><span class=\"css-1jxf684 r-bcqeeo r-1ttztb7 r-qvutc0 r-poiln3 r-1x3r274\">In Alaska, it handed a Republican-leaning electorate a Democrat via second preferences and exhausted ballots. In New York it turned a primary into a public-relations dumpster fire complete with phantom votes.<\/span><\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1jxf684 r-bcqeeo r-1ttztb7 r-qvutc0 r-poiln3 r-1adg3ll r-1g7jtus r-1x3r274\"><span class=\"css-1jxf684 r-bcqeeo r-1ttztb7 r-qvutc0 r-poiln3\"><span class=\"css-1jxf684 r-bcqeeo r-1ttztb7 r-qvutc0 r-poiln3 r-1x3r274\">Defenders will insist the systems \u201cworked as designed\u201d and that critics are just sore losers. Fair enough\u2014Peltola and Adams won under the rules. But the hype was never \u201cit works as designed.\u201d The hype was majority rule without runoff elections, reduced polarization, no spoilers, clearer voter intent, and smoother democracy. Alaska and New York delivered the opposite: delayed counts, exhausted ballots, Condorcet failures, administrative farce, and outcomes that left large chunks of the electorate feeling the process had gamed them.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"css-1jxf684 r-bcqeeo r-1ttztb7 r-qvutc0 r-poiln3 r-1adg3ll r-1x3r274 r-p1pxzi\"><span class=\"css-1jxf684 r-bcqeeo r-1ttztb7 r-qvutc0 r-poiln3\"><span class=\"css-1jxf684 r-bcqeeo r-1ttztb7 r-qvutc0 r-poiln3 r-1x3r274\">Ranked Choice Voting remains a favorite of good-government types who treat complexity as sophistication. Actual elections keep showing that when you replace \u201cpick one\u201d with a ranking tournament, you don\u2019t magically get consensus. You get more moving parts, more opportunities for exhaustion and elimination quirks, and more chances for the people running the system to screw it up in public. The next time someone tells you RCV is the future, point them to the Last Frontier and the five boroughs. The future looked a lot like the same old mess\u2014just with extra steps and a longer wait for the final score.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p>\t<\/div>\n\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Ranked Choice Voting: The Overhyped Mess That Promised Paradise and Delivered ChaosRanked Choice Voting was sold to us like a miracle cure for American elections. No more spoilers! Majority winners guaranteed! Civil campaigns where candidates court second-place love instead of torching each other! 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