{"id":59053,"date":"2025-01-31T02:58:12","date_gmt":"2025-01-31T02:58:12","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/peraltafinancing.com\/business\/legal\/will-deepseek-impact-the-ai-copyright-wars-technollama\/"},"modified":"2025-01-31T02:58:12","modified_gmt":"2025-01-31T02:58:12","slug":"will-deepseek-impact-the-ai-copyright-wars-technollama","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/fivemor.com\/?p=59053","title":{"rendered":"Will DeepSeek impact the AI Copyright Wars? \u2013 TechnoLlama"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div>\n<div id=\"attachment_14478\" style=\"width: 847px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.technollama.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/comrade-llama.jpeg?ssl=1\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-14478\" data-attachment-id=\"14478\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.technollama.co.uk\/will-deepseek-impact-the-ai-copyright-wars\/comrade-llama\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.technollama.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/comrade-llama.jpeg?fit=1232%2C928&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1232,928\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"comrade llama\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"&lt;p&gt;Comrade Llama reporting for the Copyright Wars.&lt;\/p&gt;&#10;\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.technollama.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/comrade-llama.jpeg?fit=300%2C226&amp;ssl=1\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.technollama.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/comrade-llama.jpeg?fit=750%2C565&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.technollama.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/comrade-llama.jpeg?resize=750%2C565&amp;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"750\" height=\"565\" class=\" wp-image-14478\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.technollama.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/comrade-llama.jpeg?w=1232&amp;ssl=1 1232w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.technollama.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/comrade-llama.jpeg?resize=300%2C226&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.technollama.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/comrade-llama.jpeg?resize=1024%2C771&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.technollama.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/comrade-llama.jpeg?resize=768%2C578&amp;ssl=1 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 750px) 100vw, 750px\"\/><\/a><\/p>\n<p id=\"caption-attachment-14478\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Comrade Llama reporting for the Copyright Wars.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>Unless you have been in an isolated Yoga retreat for the last week, you will certainly have heard of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.deepseek.com\/\">DeepSeek<\/a>. This is a new model from a Chinese startup that has taken the tech world by storm, inducing a Sputnik-like panic in the US, and prompting a sudden drop in share value as the Silicon Valley oligarchs suddenly remember that there\u2019s a big scary world outside their borders.<\/p>\n<p>But what makes DeepSeek different? The main issue that has gotten everyone\u2019s attention is their R1 model, which is a reasoning model akin to OpenAI\u2019s o1 and Google\u2019s Gemini Flash Thinking, but unlike those models, it was trained at a fraction of the cost, and it has been released as an open source model. Reasoning models are seen as the future of AI development, and the most likely route towards AGI, the Holy Grail of AI research. It is likely that you mostly have interacted with large language models (LLMs), but reasoning models operate at a different level. <span _ngcontent-ng-c3292809456=\"\" class=\"router-outlet-wrapper ng-tns-c3292809456-0\"><span _ngcontent-ng-c2971488233=\"\" class=\"ng-star-inserted\">The difference between a reasoning model and an LLM model is a bit nuanced and depends on how strictly you define each term. In practice, the lines can blur, especially as LLMs become more sophisticated. LLMs are designed to understand and generate human language, their core task is to predict the next word in a sequence based on vast amounts of text data they\u2019ve been trained on. <\/span><\/span><span _ngcontent-ng-c3292809456=\"\" class=\"router-outlet-wrapper ng-tns-c3292809456-0\"><span _ngcontent-ng-c2971488233=\"\" class=\"ng-star-inserted\">Reasoning models are designed to perform logical inference, deduction, problem-solving, planning, and other forms of structured reasoning. So they tend to mimic human thought and reasoning in more comprehensive ways than simply guessing what the next word will be based on their understanding of language patterns. <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p>DeepSeek R1<ms-cmark-node _ngcontent-ng-c2971488233=\"\" _nghost-ng-c2971488233=\"\"><span _ngcontent-ng-c2971488233=\"\" class=\"ng-star-inserted\">seems to have prioritized building a model that achieves <\/span><ms-cmark-node _ngcontent-ng-c2971488233=\"\" _nghost-ng-c2971488233=\"\"><span _ngcontent-ng-c2971488233=\"\" class=\"ng-star-inserted\">high performance with relatively fewer parameters<\/span><\/ms-cmark-node><span _ngcontent-ng-c2971488233=\"\" class=\"ng-star-inserted\"> compared to other top-tier models, which makes them more efficient and cheaper. This allows them to match benchmarks of other models with <\/span><\/ms-cmark-node><ms-cmark-node _ngcontent-ng-c2971488233=\"\" _nghost-ng-c2971488233=\"\"><span _ngcontent-ng-c2971488233=\"\" class=\"ng-star-inserted\"> smaller parameter count than some of those competitors. This efficiency makes it faster to train, cheaper to run, and it requires fewer computing resources. And they have released the model\u2019s weights to the public, which has pretty much destroyed some of the business models of larger competitors such as OpenAI.<br \/><\/span><\/ms-cmark-node><\/p>\n<p>So, pretty big news. While everyone is scrambling to write about what it all means for the AI arms race, I wanted to take a look at what DeepSeek\u2019s deployment may mean for the AI Copyright Wars.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Training data<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>The DeepSeek R1 <a href=\"https:\/\/arxiv.org\/abs\/2501.12948\">research paper<\/a> doesn\u2019t specify which data it was trained on, but while the startup has just burst into everyone\u2019s attention, it has been in operation since May 2023, and had already worked in training other models, mostly LLMs. The paper for their <a href=\"https:\/\/arxiv.org\/abs\/2401.02954v1#S2\">first LLM<\/a> and for their <a href=\"https:\/\/arxiv.org\/pdf\/2405.04434\">second generation<\/a> of LLM models mentions the use of CommonCrawl, but other than describing de-duplication efforts, there\u2019s no specifics about what their LLM dataset consists of, and one has to assume that it is not only CommonCrawl. This lack of specificity is not particularly surprising, after all, early mention of the use of specific datasets has been used in copyright complaints against companies such as OpenAI and Meta.<\/p>\n<p>However, on a <a href=\"https:\/\/arxiv.org\/abs\/2403.05525\">paper for their Vision-Language (VL) model<\/a> there is an actual list of training data used, and it has quite a few surprises that may prove relevant for copyright purposes (thanks to <a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/Dorialexander\">Alexander Doria<\/a> for sending me in the right direction). A VLM aligns images and text, and it is trained on large datasets of image\u2013text pairs so that it can predict how well a piece of text matches an image (or vice versa). Because of this dual nature, having access to large and diverse dataset is very important. Some of the datasets are unsurprising, including the use of publicly available PDFs and epub files, which have the required image-text duality needed. A large part of the training data used DeepSeek\u2019s LLM dataset (70%), which consists of the text-only LLM training corpus, and while there\u2019s no indication specifically of what that is, there is a surprising mention of <a href=\"https:\/\/annas-archive.org\/\">Anna\u2019s Archive<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>This is pretty interesting for various reasons. Anna\u2019s Archive is arguably the world\u2019s largest search aggregator of shadow libraries, including Z-Library, LibGen, and Sci-Hub. As of January of 2025, the Archive links to over 40 million books, and 98 million papers. While the Archive doesn\u2019t host the works themselves, there\u2019s no doubt that sharing the works constitute a communication to the public of those works without the author\u2019s permission, so the site has been blocked in the Netherlands, Italy, and the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thebookseller.com\/news\/publishers-association-wins-high-court-bid-ordering-internet-service-providers-to-block-pirate-websites\">UK<\/a>. So the use of Anna\u2019s Archive in training would undoubtedly prove to be controversial at the very least. For example, Meta has <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theverge.com\/2025\/1\/14\/24343692\/meta-lawsuit-copyright-lawsuit-llama-libgen\">found itself in hot water<\/a> recently when it was disclosed that it had used LibGen in training, and this shadow library is part of Anna\u2019s Archive.<\/p>\n<p>It is important to stress that we do not know for sure if Anna\u2019s Archive was used in the training of the LLM or the reasoning models, or what importance do those libraries have on the overall training corpus. What is interesting to point out is that if it is found that DeepSeek did indeed train on Anna\u2019s Archive, it would be the first large model to openly do so. Whether this could result in legal action would be more difficult to discern, as far as I can tell DeepSeek only has offices in China, so any legal action would have to take place there. And to what extent would the use of an undisclosed amount of shadow libraries for training would be actionable in other countries is also not clear, personally I think that it would be difficult to prove specific damage, but it\u2019s still early days. An interesting aside is that the latest version of the <a href=\"https:\/\/digital-strategy.ec.europa.eu\/en\/library\/second-draft-general-purpose-ai-code-practice-published-written-independent-experts\">EU\u2019s AI Act General Purpose Code of Conduct<\/a> contains a prohibition for signatories to use pirated sources, and that includes shadow libraries. Would this result in DeepSeek not being available in the EU?<\/p>\n<p>Another interesting aspect of DeepSeek\u2019s training is that they <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ft.com\/content\/a0dfedd1-5255-4fa9-8ccc-1fe01de87ea6\">are being accused by OpenAI<\/a> of training on synthetic data acquired from their own models in a process that is known as model distillation. So far I have not seen any evidence to this effect other than a couple of press reports citing an unnamed person at OpenAI and a few gleeful people on social media. Regardless, this would not be a copyright issue at all,\u00a0 but it could potentially have interesting implications as apparently such an action is not allowed by OpenAI\u2019s terms of use; but I am not sure if this would be something worth getting worked up about. Regardless of potential disputes about APIs and terms of use, one thing is distillation could also have an effect for the future of AI training. Distillation means relying more on synthetic data for training. Synthetic data is artificially generated information that mimics real-world data in terms of structure, patterns, and statistical properties, but is not derived from actual human-generated data. At some point it was argued by some that AI training would run out of human-generated data, and it would act as an upper limit to development, but the potential use of synthetic data means that such limits may not exist. In fact DeepSeek <a href=\"https:\/\/arxiv.org\/pdf\/2405.14333\">has been successful<\/a> in using synthetic data to train its Math model.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Open source<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Even if DeepSeek is quickly overtaken by other developers and it ends up being mostly hype, there is likely to be one lasting effect, and it is that it is proving to be the best advertising for open source AI development so far. One could argue that the current crop of AI copyright lawsuits is temporary, my argument has always been that after a few years of strife things will quiet down and stability will ensue (get it, stability, get it? huh? Oh why do I bother?). The real battle, the one that counts for the long term, is the conflict between closed development and open source development.<\/p>\n<p>On the closed side we have models that are being trained behind closed doors, with no transparency, and the actual models are not released to the public, they are only closed products that can\u2019t be run locally and you have to interact with them via an app, a web interface, or an API for larger commercial uses. Open source models are released to the public using an open source licence, can be run locally by someone with the adequate resources.<\/p>\n<p>DeepSeek R1 <a href=\"https:\/\/huggingface.co\/deepseek-ai\/DeepSeek-R1\">is publicly available on HuggingFace<\/a> under an MIT Licence, which has to be one of the biggest open source releases since <a href=\"https:\/\/huggingface.co\/meta-llama\/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct\">LLaMa<\/a>. Yann LeCunn, the Meta AI Scientist, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/posts\/yann-lecun_to-people-who-see-the-performance-of-deepseek-activity-7288591087751884800-I3sN?utm_source=share&amp;utm_medium=member_desktop\">commented that<\/a> <span class=\"break-words tvm-parent-container\"><span dir=\"ltr\"><span class=\"white-space-pre\"\/>\u201cOpen source models are surpassing proprietary ones.\u201d<span><br \/><\/span><span\/><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p>So whatever happens with DeepSeek, we\u2019re seeing some victories for openness. The only wrinkle is that arguably doesn\u2019t R1 comply with the newly released <a href=\"https:\/\/opensource.org\/ai\/open-source-ai-definition\">Open Source AI definition<\/a> because while it is released with an open licence, it doesn\u2019t contain \u201csufficiently detailed information about the data used to train the system so that a skilled person can build a substantially equivalent system.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Policy<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Besides what may or may not happen with DeepSeek and copyright directly, I think that it may have a more lasting effect on the policy side of the debate. Whether it is justified or not, AI is seen as a technology of immense national interest for the US, China, and the EU. One of the first acts by the new Trump administration <a href=\"https:\/\/www.forbes.com\/sites\/moorinsights\/2025\/01\/30\/the-stargate-project-trump-touts-500-billion-bid-for-ai-dominance\/\">was to advertise<\/a> over $500 billion USD in infrastructure investment for AI development in something they call the \u201cStargate Project\u201d. Just a few days after, DeepSeek announces a models that is cheaper than the US competitors, and to say that it freaked out a lot of people is an understatement. I even saw the R1 launch described as a \u201cSputnik\u201d moment.<\/p>\n<p>The implications for copyright policy should be evident. If we\u2019re about to witness an AI arms race, it is unlikely that the countries involved will allow their foot soldiers to be bogged down in the courts with copyright infringement lawsuits. I have mentioned this before, but we could see some sort of legislation deployed in the US sooner rather than later, particularly if it turns out that some countries with less than perfect copyright enforcement mechanisms are direct competitors.<\/p>\n<p>We could also see DeepSeek being used by policymakers in other countries to ensure that AI development continues unabated. In the EU this could mean doubling-down on reservation of rights in the DSM Directive, with a more lenient Code of Conduct for general purpose models. And for the UK this could prove to give the government more reasons to push forward with establishing an opt-out exception regime after the current consultation is over. I wouldn\u2019t be surprised if we saw arguments being put forward by ministers along the line of \u201ca British DeepSeek is impossible under the current copyright system\u201d, or words to that effect.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Concluding<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I\u2019m not sure if DeepSeek warrants the incredible level of hype that we have seen recently. I\u2019ve used it and at least to my untrained eye it didn\u2019t perform any better or worse that o1 or Gemini Flash, but I have to admit that I have not put them to any sort of comprehensive test, I\u2019m just speaking as a user. But I think that there are a couple of interesting copyright implications to the launch that may warrant further examination. I do believe that the Chinese model will definitely have a policy effect, at least in the short term.<\/p>\n<p>I asked DeepSeek for a copyright-related joke to finish this blogpost, and it said:<\/p>\n<p>\u201cDeepSeek is so good at finding information, it even found the copyright symbol on my original thoughts!\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Humans, we\u2019re safe!<\/p>\n<div class=\"sharedaddy sd-block sd-like jetpack-likes-widget-wrapper jetpack-likes-widget-unloaded\" id=\"like-post-wrapper-7692069-14477-679c3c43c30c9\" data-src=\"https:\/\/widgets.wp.com\/likes\/?ver=14.2.1#blog_id=7692069&amp;post_id=14477&amp;origin=www.technollama.co.uk&amp;obj_id=7692069-14477-679c3c43c30c9&amp;n=1\" data-name=\"like-post-frame-7692069-14477-679c3c43c30c9\" data-title=\"Like or Reblog\">\n<h3 class=\"sd-title\">Like this:<\/h3>\n<p><span class=\"button\"><span>Like<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"loading\">Loading&#8230;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"sd-text-color\"\/><a class=\"sd-link-color\"\/><\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Comrade Llama reporting for the Copyright Wars. 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