{"id":45624,"date":"2025-01-24T21:17:11","date_gmt":"2025-01-24T21:17:11","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/peraltafinancing.com\/business\/real-estate\/future-insights-what-property-managers-need-to-know-for-2025\/"},"modified":"2025-01-24T21:17:11","modified_gmt":"2025-01-24T21:17:11","slug":"future-insights-what-property-managers-need-to-know-for-2025","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/fivemor.com\/?p=45624","title":{"rendered":"FUTURE Insights: What Property Managers Need to Know for 2025"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div>\n<p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<!-- Showing the last modified date and the author name --><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-bottom: 0;\">Published on January 22nd, 2025<br \/>By <a href=\"https:\/\/www.appfolio.com\/blog\/author\/megan-eales-monroeappfolio-com\/\" title=\"Posts by Megan Eales Monroe\" rel=\"author\" itemprop=\"author\" itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/Person\">Megan Eales Monroe<\/a><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Want to explore new ways to elevate your property management game in 2025? On this episode of The Top Floor, you\u2019ll hear how five industry leaders are doing just that by positioning their organizations for greater success amid ongoing market shifts, finding innovative ways to boost employee satisfaction and retention, and embracing the convergence of AI and real estate.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Through exclusive audio highlights and snippets from their live, on-stage discussions at FUTU<\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">RE<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, AppFolio\u2019s annual real estate conference, you\u2019ll hear from:<\/span><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">JC Castillo, CEO at Velo Residential<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Stephanie Anderson, Senior Director of Communication and Social Media at Grace Hill\u00a0<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Lia Nichole Smith, Senior Vice President of Education and Research at ApartmentRatings.com and SatisFacts Research LLC<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Bob Pinnegar, President and Chief Executive Officer of the National Apartment Association<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Kristi Fickert, VP of Enterprise Growth at Realync<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">For even more insights into what\u2019s in store for property management in 2025 and additional FUTU<\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">RE<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> highlights, check out our <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.appfolio.com\/blog\/future-conference\/\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">full conference recap<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> after you listen to this episode of The Top Floor.<\/span><\/p>\n<h3>Listen Now<\/h3>\n<h3><b>Episode Transcript<\/b><\/h3>\n<p><b>Megan Eales Monroe:<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Welcome to The Top Floor, the real estate management podcast that\u2019s dedicated to keeping you one step ahead of industry trends, with expert advice and actionable insights. I\u2019m your host, Megan Eales Monroe from AppFolio. Together, we\u2019ll dig deep with today\u2019s property management leaders and industry change-makers to help you unlock new possibilities, transform your day-to-day operations, and grow your business. And, no matter the size or type of real estate portfolio you manage, we\u2019ve got you covered here on The Top Floor.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In October 2024, FUTU<\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">RE<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> \u2014 AppFolio\u2019s annual real estate conference \u2014 featured more than 90 industry speakers, 40 inspiring sessions, two mainstage keynotes, and one Boyz II Men concert.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Over the course of three days, those industry leaders, innovators, and experts came together to share their unique points of view, provide real-life advice and insights, and to discuss the latest property management technology, tools, and trends.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">But, most importantly, FUTU<\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">RE<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> attendees had the opportunity to explore what\u2019s in store for property management in 2025 and create their own strategic roadmap for navigating the year ahead.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">If you missed out on the conference, well, you\u2019re in luck. On this episode of The Top Floor, we\u2019re recapping three of the top themes that were touched on during the conference sessions. Those three themes are:<\/span><\/p>\n<ol>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">New ways to boost employee satisfaction and retention<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">What prospects really look for when evaluating properties; and\u2026<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The convergence of AI and real estate.<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In addition to diving into those three themes heard at the conference, you\u2019ll also hear directly from five industry experts who spoke at FUTU<\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">RE<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, with audio snippets of their live sessions.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Now, let\u2019s meet our five industry experts and hear their top tips for property management success in 2025.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The topic of attracting and retaining top talent isn\u2019t new \u2014 or even exclusive to \u2014 real estate. But it is a near-constant challenge for real estate companies,\u00a0 especially when it comes to meeting the ever-evolving needs of a rapidly shifting and diverse workforce.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">One solution that has gained significant traction and generated plenty of conversation over the last few years is centralization. The biggest hiring and retention benefit that centralization offers is allowing employees to really specialize in their role and play to their strengths. And, as JC Castillo, CEO at Velo Residential, explained in his session, that ability to specialize isn\u2019t just key to keeping teams happy, it could be a make or break for property performance.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>JC Castillo:<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Okay, So, here\u2019s what I know about this business, okay? The most important thing that\u2019s gonna make or break any of these properties is the site staff. Plain and simple, every time that we\u2019ve had a successful property, there has been amazing site staff. Every time we\u2019ve had struggles, the site staff, we haven\u2019t done enough for them as, uh, the leadership team.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">So the problem today that I see, and the reason why centralization is important is \u2014 I\u2019m not a big fan of centralization for the word of it being sexy, yeah? \u2014 centralization is really important because all of you, amazing people that are out there working every day at the properties, you guys are faced with a major decision. You\u2019ve got a whole bunch of back office work that you\u2019ve got no time to do, and you would prefer to be building relationships with your residents, showing your prospects, those, those beautiful units and keeping your properties full and keeping your residents happy. And also, very importantly, your clients, your owners are wanting to have a profitable business that makes it easy for them. And so centralization was really born out, out of the necessity for, in my opinion, of giving you more time to do the things that really create the relationships with your residents and drive, uh, performance at your properties and all of that back office stuff that you guys didn\u2019t get into this business to do.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Let\u2019s face it, you love talking to your residents, taking care of your residents, taking care of the prospects, but you can\u2019t do it because all this back office work. So all that back office work, it is, it is our job as leaders and innovators and multifamily in this industry to take that back office work and think about it and figure out how can we centralize it? How can we take it off your plate? How can we have people come in that can help you guys to let you focus on what you do best? And all the rest of the stuff we take it off your plate. That\u2019s really the name of the game of centralization and why I think it\u2019s becoming a big thing in our industry.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">And I think that one of the things that we, we tend to miss as, uh, as owners, which I am, and also as third, third party fee managers, which I also am, is that the, the true optimal performance of a property really comes down to how satisfied and happy your residents are. Because the most expensive thing that we have as operators is a dissatisfied customer because they move out, you gotta turn the unit, you\u2019ve got marketing costs, you\u2019ve got units sitting vacant, and you\u2019ve also got, uh, extra load on your maintenance staff that they could otherwise be servicing your, your other residents.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">And when they\u2019re more likely to renew their lease, you are going to accelerate your profitability greatly. And so the key that we have to all focus on as owners and also as, as, as fee managers, is that we have to always go back to the experience. How can we make the experience better? And by the way, I also believe this to be true: Happy site staff make for happy residents. If you are not thinking every day as a leader at your company, how you can make your site staff\u2019s lives better, you will automatically have less satisfied residents by default.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Um, the other thing I think about, you know, asking about leasing and, and how we think of it in the centralized world, I always try to simplify it back to, um, a simple sales function, right? A leasing agent is a sales person. And so if we wanna, uh, figure out what the things are that we can centralize, we simply have to, um, classify the sales person into an inside sales role and an outside sales role, that\u2019s something that\u2019s very common in a lot of other industries. The outside sales person is the person that is interacting with the client directly. They\u2019re building the relationships.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">That\u2019s a very personal connection that you do not want to virtualize or centralize that has to be done in person. The inside sales person\u2019s job is to give all of the back office support on the sales side to support the outside salesperson, to be out there with the prospect building that relationship. So what you\u2019ve really, what you\u2019ve done is you have allowed your outside salesperson or your, your leasing agent on site to be completely focused on building that relationship, understanding the problem, and getting that person to convert to becoming a tenant. And you\u2019ve taken all that back office work that they will normally have to spend time doing, you\u2019ve outsourced that to the inside sales person.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Um, I think that what excites me about the centralization play on the maintenance side is the concept of the Uberization, I would call it, of maintenance. It\u2019s the, \u201cHey, instead of me having to have, you know, my three, uh, maintenance guys focused on, you know, anything under the sun,\u201d I can start to, um, backfill certain tasks that may be highly specialized with people that can come in on an Uber style approach and maybe service ACS specifically if there\u2019s something happening there.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">And then I don\u2019t have to have an AC specialist on my maintenance staff. Well that, that starts to free me up with a whole different, uh, amazing amount of things, which as Dom said perfectly, uh, proactive maintenance instead of reactive maintenance. Um, on the office staff side, I continue to believe that we will continue to go the way of centralizing back office work to the extent that we can continue to improve the ability of our site staff to interact more with the pro, with the prospects and the, the residents to, uh, to build that relationship and understand how that experience is going and make that experience better. I think the things that don\u2019t have to do with the experience of the residents will absolutely continue to go, uh, and be pushed further with, uh, bots and, and with, with, uh, with humans, uh, in the virtual world. And I think that that certainly will go, but I don\u2019t think we\u2019re gonna get to a point where maintenance is centralized completely in terms of, um, you know, you just need people out there to go be at the property and, and turning a wrench.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>Megan Eales Monroe:<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">As JC explained, centralization gives employees the opportunity to specialize in their role, get distractions off their plate, and really excel in their day-to-day positions. In addition, there\u2019s also a chance that centralization can create potential for more flexible, hybrid, or remote property management positions, all of which have gained significant traction and interest since the pandemic.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In fact, the most recent AppFolio Property Manager Hiring and Retention Report revealed that 92% of property management professionals say that work-life balance is important, yet only 61% are satisfied with their current work-life balance.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Here\u2019s Stephanie Anderson \u2014 Senior Director of Communication and Social Media at Grace Hill \u2014 with her insights into how shifting our approach from \u201cthe way things have always been done\u201d to \u201cthis is how work can get done\u201d can make a massive impact on your team\u2019s happiness, productivity, and retention.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>Stephanie Anderson:<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">You know, mindset is everything. And I think in our industry we\u2019re a little bit slower to adapt than many other industries. And while that\u2019s not always a horrible thing because it is good to sometimes be cautious and, uh, you know, mediate risk. It\u2019s interesting though how the mindset really changes the game of do we try something new or do we always just do the same thing? \u2019cause it\u2019s what we\u2019ve always done. When I speak to a lot of people across the country, they will tell me their number one concern. With this changing the mindset really comes down to we\u2019re a customer facing business. How are we supposed to manage homes 24 hours a day and not be physically there for our residents? Now, is that because we don\u2019t have the budget to have technology in place to do it? Is it because it\u2019s uncomfortable because change is, is uncomfortable?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Or is it just because it won\u2019t work for us and I just know I have this gut feeling it won\u2019t work. So that mindset there is something that you really have to address with the teams. And you know, interestingly enough, we have six generations in the work field right now. And that means that all six generations are motivated differently. They have different mindsets and they think about work in different ways. You know, when I compare how I think about work as a Millennial to, let\u2019s say how my mom thinks about work as a Boomer, they are very, very different. Um, it\u2019s not to say that they\u2019re still not, um, equating to productivity and getting the work done, but the way we go about things are slightly different. And again, not a right or wrong scenario, but that one-size-fits all doesn\u2019t apply here. So when you\u2019re thinking about that mindset, to me it really has to be, um, getting in that uncomfortable zone and trying something new.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I will tell you a great starting point is in 2019, so pre-pandemic, uh, before the world went a little bit, um, different, you know, I have written a best practices for the National Apartment Association and it really detailed what you should be thinking about. You can actually access it if you\u2019re a member of NAA for free on their website and download it. But it really breaks it down into some of the most simplistic matters. Um, you know, when you think about staffing and you think about your team members, the first thing you wanna do is figure out what is driving your employees, what is motivating them. You know, I, I already kind of mentioned that six generations are in the workspace right now. And, and some of them, you know, may have that, \u201cI wanna work a nine to five.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Others are like, \u201cNope, I don\u2019t wanna come in until 11 and I can stay till seven.\u201d And the beauty here is that that is allowing you to cater to your residents and some of their individual needs a little bit more. But when you think about that, look at your schedule and say, oh, we, everybody doesn\u2019t need to be here the same hours of every day. We\u2019ve done it like that because that\u2019s how it\u2019s always been done. But ultimately it\u2019s not necessary. Um, and do you need to close your offices a day during the week? Do you need to be open every weekend? I I can\u2019t answer all those questions for you \u2019cause there\u2019s so much that goes into that thought process and strategy. But the key is to think about how can you rotate? How can you look at your flexible schedules? How can you allow your employees that are taking care of ailing parents or they, or parents themselves or they have other commitments outside of the workplace.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">How do you allow that to happen but that you\u2019re still getting the best of them? You know, what are your core business hours is really crucial. You know, look back at your data. When are you touring the most? When are your residents coming in the most, you know, try to find what that core, like three hours a day is where you\u2019re like, someone has to be here because that is where we are making a difference with our residents the most. And then alter everything else around that. And then you\u2019re gonna see your, your retention is going to increase significantly, your productivity is going to increase and ultimately your employees are gonna be happy. And that\u2019s great for branding and just morale in general.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>Megan Eales Monroe:<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">As JC and Stephanie discussed, happy teams are essential to retaining top talent and current residents.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">But what about attracting and converting prospects? With the multifamily housing construction boom taking place, residents will have more options than ever before, which means it\u2019s going to take a lot more to stand out in a crowded real estate marketplace.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Thankfully, Lia Nichole Smith, Senior Vice President of Education and Research at ApartmentRatings.com and SatisFacts Research LLC, was able to highlight exactly what it takes. Here are her insights on what property management companies need to make sure they\u2019re covering in 2025, based on real resident research.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>Lia Nichole Smith:<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I think the biggest thing, and I love where Danielle started, um, talking about when there really is a lot of options for your renters and the playing field is pretty level product looks the same, prices, you know, aren\u2019t really a big difference or a big change. How do you stand out? What are renters looking for? And in that, uh, comment that Danielle made, they\u2019re looking for reasons to check you off the list, right? So what are some of those reasons that would make them move away from considering your community? What we\u2019re finding is that renters are gravitating towards transparency. They need to be able to feel very confident that this decision is a good one for me. Um, and it\u2019s not a good decision because the cheapest, or it\u2019s the one that\u2019s closest to my job, it\u2019s the one that\u2019s gonna offer me the most well-rounded experience.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">And so when we look at some of our data, um, one of the things that we ask them, of all the stuff that you can find on the internet, what is most important to you? And there were about 18 options on this survey, and they were, had to give us a rating between one and five. The highest most important was transparency. I wanna know information beyond the mandatory advertised rent that was rated more important than things like your videos, photos, floor plans, pricing, general pricing, concessions, um, even reviews. So having that transparency upfront is already going to help keep your community in the conversation. And then when we\u2019re looking at more things when it comes to transparency and trust, you can see that 73%, um, look to online ratings and reviews. We had 55% in terms of referrals. Um, I don\u2019t know why the friends and family is no longer this fountain of information and wealth of like advice.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Maybe they\u2019ve been burned before when they\u2019ve asked, you know, their friends and family to recommend a restaurant. And I go to the restaurant, it sucks, you know? Or you know, you say, oh my God, you need to watch this movie. It was amazing. And it\u2019s like, that\u2019s two and a half hours of my life. I\u2019ll never get back. You know? So I think the trust in friends and family, um, has actually started to take a bit of a dip. And then if you look at the apartment, uh, community\u2019s website in terms of, you know, what\u2019s in there, these are our marketing messages, right? We put the photos up, we put the copy up, we choose what we wanna show. And so when you\u2019re looking at trust, you\u2019re not finding a lot of trust. Renters don\u2019t find a lot of trust because that\u2019s a message that we manipulate and control.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">And so they look to find, you know, who\u2019s in my position, who is, you know, kind of the where I am in my life. Oh, it\u2019s not my friends and family. It\u2019s not the company website who put out this marketing message. It\u2019s other renters like me. That\u2019s why they\u2019re looking for the stories from people that are in their, we call them tribe, you know, they\u2019re, it, they\u2019re part of my tribe. So, yeah. Um, I think you guys can keep giving friends and family\u2019s recommendations, but just know every time it doesn\u2019t work out, they\u2019re not gonna come back to you. They\u2019re not gonna be asking. But yeah, that\u2019s where we are with, um, reviews being the most trustworthy sources for renters right now. And I think you can kind of see why that is.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">And then 70%, uh, this was a question. We\u2019ve been doing the survey since 2011. We\u2019ve never asked this question before, but we started seeing a rise in people that really were filtering for negative reviews. So we asked renters, you know, did you actively filter for negative reviews during your search? 70% said, yeah, and here\u2019s the thing with that 70%, they already know why they want to live at your communities. The negative reviews tell them why they shouldn\u2019t. And so that negative reviews, let\u2019s say someone is like, negative reviews are all about parking, parking sucks, parking\u2019s horrible, but I don\u2019t have a car. That\u2019s not really a negative for me. So it\u2019s starting to get us as an industry to rethink, um, negative reviews.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">And then responding. I\u2019ll keep this brief, but it makes a big difference when you respond. Um, what we\u2019re starting to find in the past, it was like, we just want a response. Now. What renters are looking for is the quality of the response. So those templates, those, you know, auto generated responses actually do more harm than good, because again, if I\u2019m looking for a place that I can trust is gonna offer me a great living experience, that\u2019s, you know, they haven\u2019t met you yet. And so all they know about your customer service is how you respond to your residents. Some interesting stuff.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Yeah, I think with tech, um, we\u2019re almost in sort of like a catch 22, right? We\u2019ve gotta have tech, we can\u2019t operate our portfolios without it. We can\u2019t really fully service our residents without it. However, where\u2019s the breaking point for your residents? When is too much tech, too much tech? You know? Or are we using the tech that really does enhance their lives? So sometimes you hear things, you see things, there\u2019s trends. You read an article might go to a conference and you\u2019re like, oh, we gotta get that. We gotta get that asap. And your residents are like completely ignoring it. You know, like it\u2019s not something that was important to them. So tech for tech\u2019s sake may not necessarily help but technology. When you combine it with that personal service, that really thoughtful approach, right? Is what\u2019s going to help you with, um, your overall resident satisfaction.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">This next slide, this is a stat when we\u2019re we ask on our online renter study, how important is it for you that the community or management company really takes technology seriously? I only gave you the last five years or the last five cycles of the, um, study, but you can see it\u2019s always been important. 2021, we were just coming out 2020, so no surprise there that we saw a spike in the importance of technology because you had renters who couldn\u2019t just walk into the office and just place their service requests face to face or just tell you what\u2019s going on. But you see how that numbers dropped back down in just two years. I think what we\u2019re seeing is that for some renters, it\u2019s like enough, like I don\u2019t want a 100% tech based experience. I still need people, I still need, you know, to have a cup of coffee with someone or see someone walking in the office.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">If it\u2019s 100% tech, they can\u2019t see their dollars at work. And when residents can\u2019t see their dollars at work, they start to question where are those dollars going? Does that make sense? So they have to have a level of, um, you know, tangible proof that the company, the community is being run by actual people. So we\u2019re never gonna get away from, you know, having to have, um, a staff on site service team member.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>Megan Eales Monroe:<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">For even more insights into what prospects want and expect, check out the 2024 AppFolio Property Manager Renter Preferences Report, available now at <\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/appfolio.com\/renterpreferences\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">appfolio.com\/renterpreferences<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">. We\u2019ll also make sure to include a link in the show notes.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">To round out our conversations today, let\u2019s talk about the third \u2014 and possibly most prevalent \u2014 theme from AppFolio\u2019s FUTU<\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">RE<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> conference: Artificial Intelligence.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">AI is now just part of our everyday lives, whether we realize it or not. And for real estate management, AI is already transforming workflows, boosting team productivity, and supporting resident experiences today.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Yet, even with incredibly powerful and custom-built property management AI solutions available today, not all teams and businesses have fully embraced AI. But as Bob Pinnegar \u2014 President and Chief Executive Officer of the National Apartment Association \u2014 explains, AI is more than just a piece of technology the industry can use \u2014 it\u2019s the future of property management.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>Bob Pinnegar:<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">AI is, um, has been well with everything. AI can help the residents in many ways. It can help with efficiencies on the operations side. I\u2019ve been in the industry long enough to hear a lot of companies come and say, we\u2019re gonna save you staff, and with this software update or this new thing, it\u2019s gonna change things and you\u2019re gonna save on full-time employees.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I don\u2019t know that it\u2019s gonna do that because I don\u2019t know that anything, uh, has in the past. But I think it will allow your people to focus on the things that they need to do. And we\u2019re trying to talk with legislators about that. Um, I think one of the challenges that people in the audience need to consider as you\u2019re looking at these new technologies is 10 years ago there were no general counsels and there were no risk manager managers, even in the largest companies. And I think that portfolios of all sizes, whether you have half a dozen single family homes, or whether you have hundreds of thousands of units, is you need to look at new technologies you\u2019re using and really look at them objectively and say, how does this work? Does\u2026what is this impact of this with regards to fair housing? \u2019cause if you\u2019re in California or other parts of the country, disparate impact is a real part of your world and your environment more so than other parts of the country.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">From the standpoint of, um, of, of antitrust, there\u2019s some things that you need to, to just understand and be aware of. And so the more you can work with your existing providers, you have to get information at conferences like this to join IREM, to join NAA, to join whatever group out there that gets you the information you need and creates an environment where you can network to gather information. That\u2019s how you\u2019re going to adapt through AI and the trends over the next five years. Because we\u2019re gonna be different in five years than we are today, whether we know it or not. Um, in June, we had our, our, our big conference, and we had meetings going on. And I had a past chair when AI was discussed and said, that\u2019s for the big guys. That\u2019s never gonna impact me. And I had to pull \u2019em aside and explain to him how it was already impacting them. He just didn\u2019t know it.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The challenge is, this is not an industry that has ever embraced change in a meaningful way. And so I, you know, the, the, the going thing I used to say is, if you love change, and you were very entrepreneurial, you went into the tech industry, um, you didn\u2019t necessarily go into real estate. Real estate\u2019s the same. I remember when I first started with the association and we had the ups and downs of cycles and the people who said, \u201cI\u2019m gonna take it easy for a while and play a little golf, and then I\u2019ll get back in the market at a point in time in the future when it makes sense.\u201d Um, they never got back in the market. So those people I never saw again.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Those that, um, that adapted to change, that began to incrementally change, to try to work forward. Those are the ones that were thriving. Um, and you know, it wasn\u2019t too many years ago that offices had a lot of manual processes that were going on. And the technology changes that have been able to create efficiencies in office, in the offices and background operations is, is very, is very real.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>Megan Eales Monroe:<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">When it comes to leveraging AI, property management companies and teams are always going to get the most out of solutions that are tailored for real estate management\u2019s unique needs and specific use cases. But even the most basic and general generative AI tools can still offer massive benefits for property management teams, as long as they are used properly and effectively. Here\u2019s Kristi Fickert \u2014 VP of Enterprise Growth at Realync \u2014 to explain how.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>Kristi Fickert:<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">So you have the amazing AI that AppFolio has been talking about that they\u2019ve got built into their products this week. I have great AI built into the products that I work with, but this is generative AI that you can use every day that you don\u2019t need to buy another tool or service.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Now today we\u2019re gonna talk about Chat GPT, but a lot of these principles, y\u2019all can sub these in for any other platform that you\u2019re using. So there\u2019s Perplexity, uh, Bard, there are a lot of different platforms coming out. And so these things, you don\u2019t have to strictly use these for chat GPT, but that\u2019s what I\u2019m going to reference today.<\/span> <span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">So a few things to know in case you didn\u2019t already.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">One is security. These platforms are not always secure. So when you are asking questions to your GPT when you\u2019re loading information in there, you wanna remove all identifying information, remove your company information, remove the name of your partners that you\u2019re working with, remove any, um, financial data or identifying factors. But we also work in multi-family, so we have to abide by fair housing laws. Obviously, if it gives you an answer, double check that and make sure that that is in line with what your local zoning and laws are when it comes to fair housing. And lastly, it can hallucinate. So it does give good information. But it is still learning and it\u2019s going to get better as it runs.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Um, but you also, when you are asking a chat GPT or a generative AI platform to do something, the prompt and the information that you give it is what\u2019s going to give you a better response. Basically, it\u2019s like anything else we do: BS in, BS out. So your prompts, when you\u2019re giving it a prompt and telling it what to do, give it as much detail as you can.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">So for example, give it the background info when I\u2019m asking it to do something for me for work, I\u2019ll say act like you are a VP of marketing for a technology company. So I tell it the role that I want it to play, and then I\u2019m gonna tell it what exactly do I want it to spit out to me? I don\u2019t want you to just give me an answer, but for example, with your conference notes, if you\u2019re taking notes and you want it to write a summary, instead of asking it to just write a summary for you of everything you learned at the AppFolio FUTU<\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">RE<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Conference, you want it to write a summary and you want it to categorize it by topic and you want it to put it into a format that you can share with your boss.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">And we\u2019re gonna be really specific there. As far as your prompt frameworks, you\u2019re going to tell your chat GPT the role, context, action and format of what you want it to do. So we\u2019ve, given I\u2019m taking that RCAF framework, and now I\u2019m acting like a couple of different roles in our industry. Some of you might hold these roles in the industry, and I\u2019m giving examples of what you could potentially ask it to do. If you\u2019re in marketing, you could tell it that you are looking for digital marketing trends in 2024. What were the biggest trends this year and what you want it to do? Well, we want it to describe the latest trends, but we want it to be, um, we want it to tell us the impact that they made this year and then the format. We want it to be concise and formative and, um, for it to, it\u2019s gonna be something that we put into an annual report that we\u2019re writing.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">But then you can see if you\u2019re, you\u2019re, if you\u2019re on the maintenance team, you know, maybe you wanna write a plan for how to manage warranties on your property. Maybe you have new builds or new construction. And so you\u2019re trying to manage all of those warranties that come with it and explaining how do you manage a, a program like this. And then we wanted this to actually be a guide that we can share with other new hires or other maintenance people throughout the company. So you can use, again, these different frameworks, but this is a good cheat sheet to keep on your desk or to keep just in a file somewhere. So when you\u2019re starting to write your prompts, if you\u2019re adding the this information and thinking of it this way, you\u2019ll get much better results.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>Megan Eales Monroe:<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The top trends we covered and experts we heard from on today\u2019s episode are just a small portion of what was covered at 2024\u2019s FUTU<\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">RE<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> conference. To learn more about the speakers and topics covered \u2014 or to learn how you can join us in 2025 \u2014 visit <\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/futureconference.com\/\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">futureconference.com<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">We\u2019d like to say thank you to all FUTU<\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">RE<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> conference speakers and attendees. And we\u2019d also like to give an extra special thank you to the industry experts who were featured on today\u2019s episode.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Be sure to check out the show notes for even more resources and expert insights to help you see success in 2025 and beyond.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Thank you for joining us on this episode of The Top Floor, brought to you by AppFolio. If you enjoyed the conversation, let us know by leaving a review wherever you listen to this podcast \u2014\u00a0we\u2019d love to hear your feedback. Also, make sure you\u2019re subscribed to The Top Floor podcast to get notified as soon as our next episode goes live. Until then, we\u2019ll continue the conversation around all things real estate and association management on the Industry Insights section of our website: appfolio.com\/industry-insights. 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