{"id":359156,"date":"2026-07-30T22:38:41","date_gmt":"2026-07-30T22:38:41","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/peraltafinancing.com\/anthropology\/ai-translation-and-the-language-of-liars-by-s-l-huang\/"},"modified":"2026-07-30T22:38:41","modified_gmt":"2026-07-30T22:38:41","slug":"ai-translation-and-the-language-of-liars-by-s-l-huang","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/fivemor.com\/?p=359156","title":{"rendered":"AI Translation and &#8220;The Language of Liars&#8221; by S.L. Huang"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div id=\"post-body-9082703318726797544\" itemprop=\"description articleBody\">\n<p><span style=\"font-size: small;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEh9EyLhAIZ8t5AWP0wkvGqdl4NzDuYDgp-jGGniL0JmUfY-95f0LLjWpMaQQJ8mC_OaBYjxsKGkIPk5FFL0lgfjHNKE0p-yIdEC_NTVQgGrTluQvHMtsIBiuJv-nvkvgyJwqJt7iU6qodv0anwSoGQtSArhTXGHAhAENykEJVHTUAjiLGBh2wVR_Wmwnzc\/s2000\/languageofliars.webp\" style=\"clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" border=\"0\" data-original-height=\"2000\" data-original-width=\"1252\" height=\"320\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/b\/R29vZ2xl\/AVvXsEh9EyLhAIZ8t5AWP0wkvGqdl4NzDuYDgp-jGGniL0JmUfY-95f0LLjWpMaQQJ8mC_OaBYjxsKGkIPk5FFL0lgfjHNKE0p-yIdEC_NTVQgGrTluQvHMtsIBiuJv-nvkvgyJwqJt7iU6qodv0anwSoGQtSArhTXGHAhAENykEJVHTUAjiLGBh2wVR_Wmwnzc\/s320\/languageofliars.webp\" width=\"200\"\/><\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><br \/>\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: small;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: small;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: small;\">R.L. Huang&#8217;s &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/bookshop.org\/p\/books\/the-language-of-liars-s-l-huang\/e7a98bf8f10fb0a2?ean=9781250405333\">The Language of Liars<\/a>&#8221; is an anthropological parable for our times. But in ways that exceed anthropology and linguistics. First, it is a clear indictment of colonization and appropriation and that, I think, was what Huang intended. Ro is a linguist from a small colony of vaguely mammalian creatures (the Ponto). He spends his days in formal linguistic study&#8211;as any grad student in linguistics might, with one exception: the Ponto&#8217;s high level of empathy occasionally enables the most gifted linguists among them to &#8220;leap&#8221; into a host body, literally becoming the Other. At the top of the list for leaping: the most enigmatic species in the galaxy&#8211;the &#8216;Star Eaters,&#8217; spherical, tentacled creatures with the ability to sense and interact with a hyperspatial element (meridian) that, Dune-like, enables the expansion of life across the galaxy.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: small;\">In the midst of his grad student doubts about his own abilities and his purpose, Ro makes the leap into a Star Eater who toils in a meridian mining facility along with their fellow Star Eaters, all under the watchful eyes of pugilistic AI robots (the Overseers) and &#8220;the Conglomerate,&#8221; a hyper-version of the British East India Company. Luckily for Ro, Star Eaters are prone to periods of dissociative amnesia, providing a handy deus ex mchina for Ro&#8217;s leap into a Star Eater body. Accordingly, he makes many mistakes and needs to learn to mine meridian, among other social and cultural mores. All of his cultural missteps come to a head, however, when he discovers a stolen cache of meridian on the mining vessel, destroys its containment and then sets off a chain reaction that ports the mining ship several light years away. Brought before the Conglomerate at the inevitable hearing, Ro connects the dots from his time among the Star Eaters and draws the Far Side comic-ish conclusion&#8211;all of the Star Eaters have been replaced by linguists and there are no real Star Eaters left!\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span face=\"&quot;Aptos&quot;,sans-serif\" style=\"font-size: small; line-height: 115%; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-fareast-font-family: &quot;Malgun Gothic&quot;; mso-fareast-language: KO; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;\">WE\u201dRE<br \/>\nALL FROM OTHER WORL<\/span><span face=\"&quot;Aptos&quot;,sans-serif\" style=\"font-size: small; line-height: 115%; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-fareast-font-family: &quot;Malgun Gothic&quot;; mso-fareast-language: KO; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;\">DS, AREN\u2019T WE. Ro flung it forth before another order could<br \/>\nbe given, before any automaton could pounce. His words tripped over each other,<br \/>\na jerking thrash against the tableaux. THE MORPHOSYNTAX, LOOK AT THE<br \/>\nMORPHOSYNTAX . . . .THE LOST INFLECTIONS, THE DISCOURSE MARKERS, NONE OF US ARE<br \/>\nNATIVE SPEAKERS, TELL ME I\u2019M WRONG, TELL ME I&#8217;M WRONG . . . (p. 138)<\/span><span style=\"font-size: small;\">\u00a0 \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: small;\">There are some bumps in this narrative road. For example, it&#8217;s hard to sympathize with Ro (or anyone else) that would willingly extinguish the consciousness of another creature in order to replace it with their own. But, as a parable, it works great, and gestures to the extractive logic that unites both anthropology and capitalism.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: small;\">There are some great moments. Ro&#8217;s supervisor tells him, &#8220;we understand their culture perfectly\u201d (p. 84), a veiled(?) reference to the hubris of early, twentieth-century ethnographers. Malinowski, after all, laid out the extractive imperative in his introduction to &#8220;Argonauts of the Western Pacific&#8221;:<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"font-size: small;\">Though it may be given to us for a moment to enter into the soul of a<br \/>\nsavage and through his eyes look at the outer world and feel ourselves<br \/>\nwhat it must feel to him to be himself \u2014 yet our final goal is to enrich<br \/>\n and deepen our own world\u2019s vision, to understand our own nature and to<br \/>\nmake it finer, intellectually and artistically. \u00a0<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: small;\">As Vine Deloria, Jr. complains decades later, the cultural appropriation appears complete when indigenous peoples read anthropology in order to practice their own cultural beliefs:\u00a0\u00a0\u201cMany Indians have come to parrot the ideas of<br \/>\nanthropologists because it appears that the anthropologists know<br \/>\neverything about Indian communities\u201d (1988:82).\u00a0\u00a0Still, Franklin Hamilton Cushing aside, I&#8217;m not sure anthropologists really wanted to wholesale replace native peoples with themselves&#8211;although, as Rebecca Roanhorse writes in her short story, &#8220;Welcome to Your Authentic Indian Experience&#8221; (2017), that certainly seems like the next step after &#8220;entering the soul&#8221; of the cultural other. In any case, there&#8217;s plenty here to stimulate self-critique in anthropological worlds.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: small;\">Actually, I find &#8220;The Language of Liars&#8221; to be a better parable for another form of cultural and linguistic extraction&#8211;generative AI. It&#8217;s easy to see the appropriation here. Foundation models have been trained on massive data sets appropriated from our lives, the data that we continuously extrude as a byproduct of the digital surveillance state in which we live. And, of course, &#8220;low-resource&#8221; languages have also been sucked up into training data, albeit to a degree considered inadequate for model training. As with other attacks on data sovereignty, there are various forms of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.arts.ubc.ca\/news\/indigenous-data-stewardship-stands-against-extractivist-ai\/\">resistance to this wholesale appropriation<\/a>.\u00a0\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: small;\">Another source of danger, however, lies in the apparent fluency of LLMs&#8211;even in languages marginalized on the internet. That fluency&#8211;heir to decades of research in natural language processing&#8211;appears to seamlessly shift between source and target languages. While literary translation seems a reach for LLMs, it will still produce what some would find to be adequate translations, even if zero context is given in the prompt. This is not to minimize the many problems of low-resource translation in LLMs (Elsner, 2024). But the problems exceed questions of accuracy. As Barkin reveals in a recent essay, generative AI translation utilizes English as a pivot language, even when source and target languages are not in English. That is, the source language is translated into English, with the translation into the target taking place at a subsequent layer.\u00a0<span face=\"Arial,sans-serif\" id=\"docs-internal-guid-47f536be-7fff-c7c1-69e5-021f27bccc65\" style=\"background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span face=\"Arial,sans-serif\" id=\"docs-internal-guid-47f536be-7fff-c7c1-69e5-021f27bccc65\" style=\"background-color: transparent; color: black; font-size: small; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre;\">This isn&#8217;t particularly novel&#8211;Google translate has worked in the same way. The difference, here,\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span face=\"Arial,sans-serif\" id=\"docs-internal-guid-47f536be-7fff-c7c1-69e5-021f27bccc65\" style=\"background-color: transparent; color: black; font-size: small; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre;\">is in the context itself&#8211;the ways that LLMs appear to understand social and cultural life in addition to\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span face=\"Arial,sans-serif\" id=\"docs-internal-guid-47f536be-7fff-c7c1-69e5-021f27bccc65\" style=\"background-color: transparent; color: black; font-size: small; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre;\">language. All of that extraction has led to some fairly convincing simulacra of cross-cultural understanding.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span face=\"Arial,sans-serif\" id=\"docs-internal-guid-47f536be-7fff-c7c1-69e5-021f27bccc65\" style=\"background-color: transparent; color: black; font-size: small; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre;\">This creates \u201ca powerful illusion of locality: by speaking and writing in users\u2019 languages through a translation\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span face=\"Arial,sans-serif\" id=\"docs-internal-guid-47f536be-7fff-c7c1-69e5-021f27bccc65\" style=\"background-color: transparent; color: black; font-size: small; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre;\">layer that is continuously fine-tuned by user input, they appear culturally situated even as they organize\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span face=\"Arial,sans-serif\" id=\"docs-internal-guid-47f536be-7fff-c7c1-69e5-021f27bccc65\" style=\"background-color: transparent; color: black; font-size: small; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre;\">meaning through a a relatively stable set of epistemological assumptions inherited from overwhelmingly\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span face=\"Arial,sans-serif\" id=\"docs-internal-guid-47f536be-7fff-c7c1-69e5-021f27bccc65\" style=\"background-color: transparent; color: black; font-size: small; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre;\">U.S.-based, English-language training data\u201d (Barkin, 2025: 95). In other words, asking for information in\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span face=\"Arial,sans-serif\" id=\"docs-internal-guid-47f536be-7fff-c7c1-69e5-021f27bccc65\" style=\"background-color: transparent; color: black; font-size: small; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre;\">a low-resourced language may yield a response, but it is one premised on an English-language\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span face=\"Arial,sans-serif\" id=\"docs-internal-guid-47f536be-7fff-c7c1-69e5-021f27bccc65\" style=\"background-color: transparent; color: black; font-size: small; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre;\">epistemological frame, together with assumptions about the individual, the family and identity.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span face=\"Arial,sans-serif\" id=\"docs-internal-guid-47f536be-7fff-c7c1-69e5-021f27bccc65\" style=\"background-color: transparent; color: black; font-size: small; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre;\">The conversation may be in Uyghur, but the underlying logic will be from English. And as AI trains on\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<div style=\"text-align: left;\"><span face=\"Arial,sans-serif\" id=\"docs-internal-guid-47f536be-7fff-c7c1-69e5-021f27bccc65\" style=\"background-color: transparent; color: black; font-size: small; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre;\">AI slop, so the language itself will become more English in its logic. The &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/lilyraynyc.substack.com\/p\/the-ai-slop-loop\">AI Slop Loop<\/a>&#8221; is a race to the\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<p><span face=\"Arial,sans-serif\" id=\"docs-internal-guid-47f536be-7fff-c7c1-69e5-021f27bccc65\" style=\"background-color: transparent; color: black; font-size: small; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre;\">bottom, the death knell for accuracy, but also the hollowing out of low-resourced languages, now sock\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span face=\"Arial,sans-serif\" id=\"docs-internal-guid-47f536be-7fff-c7c1-69e5-021f27bccc65\" style=\"background-color: transparent; color: black; font-size: small; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre;\">puppets with the hand of English language imperialism inside.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span face=\"Arial,sans-serif\" id=\"docs-internal-guid-47f536be-7fff-c7c1-69e5-021f27bccc65\" style=\"background-color: transparent; color: black; font-size: small; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span face=\"Arial,sans-serif\" id=\"docs-internal-guid-47f536be-7fff-c7c1-69e5-021f27bccc65\" style=\"background-color: transparent; color: black; font-size: small; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre;\">The call for LLMs trained on indigenous language and culture is certainly pertinent here, but the hegemony\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span face=\"Arial,sans-serif\" id=\"docs-internal-guid-47f536be-7fff-c7c1-69e5-021f27bccc65\" style=\"background-color: transparent; color: black; font-size: small; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre;\">on English in training data continues (<\/span><span style=\"font-size: small;\">Zoli et al, 2025).\u00a0<span face=\"Arial,sans-serif\" id=\"docs-internal-guid-47f536be-7fff-c7c1-69e5-021f27bccc65\" style=\"background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre;\">So, while plenty to beat one&#8217;s chest about regarding the ethical failings of anthropology, Huang&#8217;s\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span face=\"Arial,sans-serif\" id=\"docs-internal-guid-47f536be-7fff-c7c1-69e5-021f27bccc65\" style=\"background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre;\">novella tells us more about the replacement of language by its simulacrum: a kind of post-anthropological\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span face=\"Arial,sans-serif\" id=\"docs-internal-guid-47f536be-7fff-c7c1-69e5-021f27bccc65\" style=\"background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre;\">nightmare from which marginalized languages might never awake. \u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span face=\"Arial,sans-serif\" id=\"docs-internal-guid-47f536be-7fff-c7c1-69e5-021f27bccc65\" style=\"background-color: transparent; color: black; font-size: small; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span face=\"Arial,sans-serif\" id=\"docs-internal-guid-47f536be-7fff-c7c1-69e5-021f27bccc65\" style=\"background-color: transparent; color: black; font-size: small; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre;\">References<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span face=\"Arial,sans-serif\" id=\"docs-internal-guid-93d7ea75-7fff-e967-abe3-54f4eb6c07e5\" style=\"background-color: transparent; color: black; font-size: small; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre;\">Barkin, Gareth. &#8220;EPISTEMOLOGICAL PERSISTENCE IN MULTILINGUAL AI: THE ILLUSION OF LOCALITY IN LARGE LANGUAGE MODELS.&#8221; <\/span><span face=\"Arial,sans-serif\" style=\"background-color: transparent; color: black; font-size: small; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre;\">INTERNATIONAL REVIEW OF MODERN SOCIOLOGY<\/span><span face=\"Arial,sans-serif\" style=\"background-color: transparent; color: black; font-size: small; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre;\"> 51, no. 1-2 (2025).<\/span><span style=\"font-size: small;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: small;\">Deloria, Vine. <i>Custer died for your sins: An Indian manifesto<\/i>. University of Oklahoma Press, 1988.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: small;\">Elsner, Micha. &#8220;Shortcomings of LLMs for Low-Resource Translation: Retrieval and Understanding are Both the Problem.&#8221; In <i>Proceedings of the Ninth Conference on Machine Translation<\/i>, pp. 1332-1354. 2024.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: small;\">Micha. &#8220;Shortcomings of LLMs for Low-Resource Translation: Retrieval and Understanding are Both the Problem.&#8221; In <i>Proceedings of the Ninth Conference on Machine Translation<\/i>, pp. 1332-1354. 2024.<span face=\"Arial,sans-serif\" id=\"docs-internal-guid-47f536be-7fff-c7c1-69e5-021f27bccc65\" style=\"background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: small;\">Zoli, Carlo, Greta Mazzaggio, and Neri Binazzi. &#8220;Small Codes: a platform<br \/>\n for digital resources and tools for minority languages and dialects.&#8221;<br \/>\nIn <i>DIGITAL HERITAGE (2025)<\/i>, pp. 1-9. Eurographics-The European Association for Computer Graphics, 2025<span face=\"Arial,sans-serif\" id=\"docs-internal-guid-47f536be-7fff-c7c1-69e5-021f27bccc65\" style=\"background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 R.L. Huang&#8217;s &#8220;The Language of Liars&#8221; is an anthropological parable for our times. But in ways that exceed anthropology and linguistics. First, it is a clear indictment of colonization and appropriation and that, I think, was what Huang intended. 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