{"id":338676,"date":"2025-12-11T03:38:47","date_gmt":"2025-12-11T03:38:47","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/peraltafinancing.com\/business\/finance\/ira-social-security-income-tax-and-all-things-financial-23\/"},"modified":"2025-12-11T03:38:47","modified_gmt":"2025-12-11T03:38:47","slug":"ira-social-security-income-tax-and-all-things-financial-23","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/fivemor.com\/?p=338676","title":{"rendered":"IRA, Social Security, income tax, and all things financial"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div>\n<p><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-12212\" src=\"https:\/\/financialducksinarow.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/estimated-payments-checkup-calculator.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"199\" \/>How is the Spousal Benefit calculated? I\u2019ve covered this topic in several prior posts, but thought I\u2019d give it another shot, to hopefully close this chapter for now. I\u2019ve heard conflicting answers from various corners of the SSA world \u2013 both personally and from reader communications. Too often there is a pat answer that the Spousal Benefit, if taken at FRA (<a href=\"https:\/\/financialducksinarow.com\/1951\/social-security-full-retirement-age-explained\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-wpel-link=\"internal\">Full Retirement Age<\/a>) is always 50% of the other spouse\u2019s PIA (<a href=\"https:\/\/financialducksinarow.com\/1949\/social-securitys-pia-what-is-this\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-wpel-link=\"internal\">Primary Insurance Amount<\/a>). This is not always the case; if the individual has begun receiving retirement benefits based on his or her own record before FRA and then later begins receiving the Spousal Benefit, the Spousal Benefit will be something less than 50%.<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>When an individual begins receiving retirement benefits based upon his or her own record has a lasting effect on the amount of all retirement benefits that this individual will receive, including Spousal Benefits. This is due to the fact that the Spousal Benefit, when the retirement benefit is present, is an offset amount based upon the difference between the maximum Spousal Benefit (50% of the other spouse\u2019s PIA) and the PIA of the first spouse.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>The <a href=\"https:\/\/financialducksinarow.com\/4157\/how-pia-relates-to-your-benefit\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-wpel-link=\"internal\">early retirement benefit amount calculation<\/a> is fairly straightforward (at the link you\u2019ll find a detailed explanation). The individual\u2019s PIA is reduced by a factor based upon the number of months prior to Full Retirement Age that he or she has applied for benefits.<\/p>\n<p>Knowing the individual\u2019s PIA, the next factor in the calculation is the other spouse\u2019s PIA, and the maximum amount of Spousal Benefit will be 50% of that PIA. This factor is available if the individual is at least Full Retirement Age. The reduction in overall benefits is the difference between 50% of the second spouse\u2019s PIA and the first spouse\u2019s PIA. This is also known as the excess Spousal Benefit.<\/p>\n<h3>Example<\/h3>\n<p>Okay, this is confusing as all get-out without an example. Let\u2019s say Dick and Jane are a married couple, with PIAs of $2,200 and $800 respectively. Dick and Jane are both age 66, Full Retirement Age. Jane started receiving her own retirement benefit at age 62, which is reduced to $600 since she started early. Dick intends to delay his retirement benefit to age 70 for the maximum benefit. So at age 70 (for both of them) Dick files for his own, delay-credit-enhanced benefit, in the amount of $2,904.<\/p>\n<p>How much of a total benefit will Jane receive when Dick files, under these circumstances? Here\u2019s how it works:\u00a0 Jane\u2019s PIA is subtracted from half of Dick\u2019s PIA \u2013 $1,100 minus $800 = $300. This amount is the excess Spousal Benefit for Jane, which is added to her own benefit to produce her total benefit. Adding $300 to $600 equals $900. This is $200 less than 50% of Dick\u2019s PIA (remember the pat answer from before?).<\/p>\n<h3>Another Example<\/h3>\n<p>Okay, what if there are a few changes to the above example: Dick is two years older than Jane \u2013 she\u2019s 64 and he\u2019s 66.\u00a0 He files for his own benefit at age 66, his Full Retirement Age, which results in Jane getting the Spousal Benefit at her current age of 64, through <a href=\"https:\/\/financialducksinarow.com\/4060\/deemed-filing\/\" data-wpel-link=\"internal\">deemed filing<\/a>. She can\u2019t delay receipt of the Spousal Benefit, in other words.<\/p>\n<p>Here is the way this calculation works (and some shorthand for the reductions):<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Determine Jane\u2019s reduced monthly benefit ($600)<\/li>\n<li>Take Jane\u2019s unreduced PIA and subtract it from half of Dick\u2019s unreduced PIA ($1,100 minus $800 = $300). This amount is referred to as the excess Spouse Benefit amount.<\/li>\n<li>If Jane is under Full Retirement Age (FRA), determine the number of months before FRA \u2013 in her case, it\u2019s 24, as age 64 is 24 months before age 66.<\/li>\n<li>Multiply the excess Spouse Benefit amount by the amount determined by subtracting her number of months prior to FRA from 144. ($300 times (144 minus 24) equals $36,000).<\/li>\n<li>Then divide that number by 144 ($36,000 divided by 144 equals $250). $250 is then added to her own retirement benefit amount to come up with the total benefit ($250 plus $600 equals $850).<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Now, taking this one step further: If Jane is eligible for the Spousal Benefit more than 36 months before FRA (such as if Jane was 62 when Dick is 66 and he files at that age), then the above calculations would be changed slightly:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Determine Jane\u2019s reduced monthly benefit ($600)<\/li>\n<li>Take Jane\u2019s unreduced PIA and subtract it from half of Dick\u2019s unreduced PIA ($1,100 minus $800 = $300). This amount is referred to as the Excess Spouse Benefit amount.<\/li>\n<li>If Jane is under Full Retirement Age (FRA), determine the number of months before FRA \u2013 in this case, it\u2019s 48, as age 62 is 48 months before age 66.<\/li>\n<li>Multiply the excess Spouse Benefit amount by the amount determined by subtracting her number of months <em>greater than 36<\/em> prior to FRA from 180. ($300 times (180 minus 12) equals $50,400).<\/li>\n<li>Then divide that number by 240 ($50,400 divided by 240 equals $210). $210 is then added to her own retirement benefit amount to come up with the total benefit ($210 plus $600 equals $810).<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>It should be noted that if Jane had not filed for her own benefit before FRA and she waits until FRA to file for the Spousal Benefit, she will be eligible for a Spousal Benefit equal to 50% of Dick\u2019s PIA \u2013 assuming that Dick has filed for his own benefit.<\/p>\n<p>Hope this helps to clear things up a bit. If not, please leave your questions in the comments section below and we\u2019ll work together to come up with answers.<\/p>\n<\/p><\/div>\n\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>How is the Spousal Benefit calculated? I\u2019ve covered this topic in several prior posts, but thought I\u2019d give it another shot, to hopefully close this chapter for now. I\u2019ve heard conflicting answers from various corners of the SSA world \u2013 both personally and from reader communications. 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