{"id":296145,"date":"2025-06-16T01:56:43","date_gmt":"2025-06-16T01:56:43","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/peraltafinancing.com\/uncategorized\/roger-smith-pocket-watch-no-2\/"},"modified":"2025-06-16T01:56:43","modified_gmt":"2025-06-16T01:56:43","slug":"roger-smith-pocket-watch-no-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/fivemor.com\/?p=296145","title":{"rendered":"Roger Smith Pocket Watch No.2"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div>\n<p><em>A version of this appeared on the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.redbargroup.com\/blog\/2023\/6\/6\/roger-smiths-pocket-watch-no-2\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">RedBar Group\u2019s global website <\/a>in June 2023.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>\u201cI thought it might be larger,\u201d says <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thewatchnerd.co.uk\/an-interview-with-roger-w-smith\/\">Dr Roger Smith OBE<\/a>, as he holds Pocket Watch No.2, the watch he presented to Dr George Daniels over twenty-five years ago.  We\u2019re sitting in a room off Phillips\u2019 London auction space, where items from the New York Watch Auction EIGHT (which will take place on June 10 and 11) are on display. It\u2019s the first extended period of time he\u2019s had to spend with it, having sold Pocket Watch No.2 to a collector in 2004.<\/p>\n<p>Smith had set out to create something that would reflect the ideals of the Daniels Method (i.e. the philosophy set out in <em>Watchmaking<\/em>, and the idea of making a watch entirely by hand) and after five years of determination, dead ends, multiple revisions and hard work, he deemed Pocket Watch No.2 to be complete. \u201cIt was all-consuming,\u201d he says, looking slightly pained, \u201cI had nobody to talk to, or bounce ideas off. It as a very lonely experience.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The result is, probably, the most important watch Smith has made to date; a Sliding Doors moment, when, having presented his first, rejected, pocket watch to Daniels in 1992, he decided to go home and work on something <em>better<\/em>. \u201cI really wanted to challenge myself, to go further and make an even more complicated watch,\u201d he says, turning it over in his hands; something that would show Daniels that he could be a watchmaker.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large is-style-default\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"700\" height=\"700\" src=\"https:\/\/www.thewatchnerd.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/20230415-IMG_2218-700x700.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-2748\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.thewatchnerd.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/20230415-IMG_2218-700x700.jpg 700w, https:\/\/www.thewatchnerd.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/20230415-IMG_2218-480x480.jpg 480w, https:\/\/www.thewatchnerd.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/20230415-IMG_2218-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.thewatchnerd.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/20230415-IMG_2218-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.thewatchnerd.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/20230415-IMG_2218.jpg 1000w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\"\/><\/figure>\n<p><em>Pocket Watch No.2, Dr Roger Smith OBE, 1997<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Famously (and perhaps apocryphally), Daniels said that a watch should imply appear from thin air, i.e. not have any sign of the watchmaker, with the exception of the realisation of their aesthetic. \u201cI really thought that there was only one way to build watches,\u201d Smith continues, \u201cand <em>Watchmaking<\/em> was my guide.\u201d <\/p>\n<p>The watch differed from that first attempt, and included a one-minute tourbillon with spring detent escapement, perpetual four-year calendar and moonphase. The 18 karat gold from the first watch was melted down and reused to house this new movement inside a larger 66.5mm case. The silver dial, with its polished off-set hour ring and minute track, large sub-seconds, and multiple guilloch\u00e9 patterns looks somewhat timeless, evoking the backline illustrations in <em>Watchmaking<\/em>, as well as the dials of Breguet (or, perhaps, Jump). Smith\u2019s signature, sculptured hands adorn the dial, balanced against the black-inked roman numerals, and a small cartouche sits below the moon phase, displaying the maker\u2019s name. <\/p>\n<p>The movement, with its two-thirds plate and large, straight tourbillon bridge evokes a period of English watchmaking at the end of the ninetieth century, when Nicole, Nelson &amp; Co were making high-class, complicated pocket watches. This is, perhaps, unsurprising, given Smith was working for antiquarian horologist David Penney during some of this period. The tourbillon bridge and screws are black polished, while the plates are frosted in the classic English style. <\/p>\n<p>Two raised barrels sit above the spring detent escapement and four-armed balance wheel \u2013 now seen in Smith\u2019s wristwatches as the Quadrajust. One of the barrels is highly decorated in a traditional scroll pattern (reminiscent of watches sold by Charles Frodsham and others), while the second barrel bears the maker\u2019s name: R. W. Smith, Bolton. As a whole, it\u2019s a remarkably restrained design, and reflects Smith\u2019s later aesthetic, a personal style that Daniels was keen that he develop.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large is-style-default\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"700\" height=\"567\" src=\"https:\/\/www.thewatchnerd.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/20230415-IMG_2210-700x567.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-2752\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.thewatchnerd.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/20230415-IMG_2210-700x567.jpg 700w, https:\/\/www.thewatchnerd.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/20230415-IMG_2210-480x389.jpg 480w, https:\/\/www.thewatchnerd.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/20230415-IMG_2210-150x122.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.thewatchnerd.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/20230415-IMG_2210-768x622.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.thewatchnerd.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/20230415-IMG_2210.jpg 1000w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\"\/><\/figure>\n<p><em>The movement of Pocket Watch No.2, signed R. W. Smith, Bolton.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>As noted previously, it\u2019s a large watch: 65.5mm in diameter. Interestingly, the case has a five-piece hinge (rather than the three-piece hinges described by Daniels in <em>Watchmaking<\/em>). \u201cI wanted to go one better,\u201d Smith says, with a smile. The push pieces to adjust the four-year perpetual calendar, date and moon phase are also visible. <\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"700\" height=\"463\" src=\"https:\/\/www.thewatchnerd.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/20230415-IMG_2222-700x463.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-2750\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.thewatchnerd.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/20230415-IMG_2222-700x463.jpg 700w, https:\/\/www.thewatchnerd.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/20230415-IMG_2222-480x318.jpg 480w, https:\/\/www.thewatchnerd.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/20230415-IMG_2222-150x99.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.thewatchnerd.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/20230415-IMG_2222-768x508.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.thewatchnerd.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/20230415-IMG_2222.jpg 1000w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\"\/><\/figure>\n<p><em>The five-part 18 karat gold hinge, case and push pieces of Pocket Watch No.2<\/em><\/p>\n<p>This watch has, rather unusually, lead three lives. First and most importantly, it was the watch that persuaded Daniels to apprentice Roger Smith in early 1998, and to ask him to assist with the first series of Omega watch movements that had been produced with Daniels\u2019 co-axial escapement. Smith was to be Daniels\u2019 only apprentice, and worked with him until his death in October 2011. <\/p>\n<p>The watch\u2019s second life was to provide a springboard for Smith\u2019s personal watchmaking development; the watch was sold to a private collector in 2004, to fund the development of the Series 2 wristwatches: \u201cI wanted to build a completely different wristwatch, designed in-house.\u201d Given the time between the watch\u2019s making and its sale, I ask Smith what happened to it during the intervening years: \u201cI didn\u2019t even think about it,\u201d he says. \u201cIt just sat in a kitchen drawer.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Roger Smith\u2019s watchmaking workshop on the Isle of Man has grown since then, and now employs ten watchmakers at the bench and two further engineers. The same principles he employed in making Pocket Watch No.2 continue to be applied today; that same approach to development, refinement and passion for watchmaking. It\u2019s this passion that he says he tries to instil in each of his watchmakers, as well as an environment where they can share ideas (something that was lacking while Smith was making Pocket Watch No.2).<\/p>\n<p>And now the watch is being sold again, by Phillips, in New York, but first goes on a global tour, via Los Angeles, Geneva and Hong Kong. Their press release estimates the watch\u2019s sale price at in excess of $1m. When asked what he might change or alter about the watch, given the chance, he smiles. \u201cI wouldn\u2019t change anything,\u201d he says. \u201cIt\u2019s served its purpose.\u201d<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p><em>\u201cThere\u2019s nothing more attractive than a good watch: it\u2019s historic; intellectual; technical; aesthetic; amusing; useful. You couldn\u2019t beat it.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n<p><cite>George Daniels, 2011<\/cite><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large is-style-default\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"700\" height=\"557\" src=\"https:\/\/www.thewatchnerd.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/20230415-IMG_2206-700x557.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-2751\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.thewatchnerd.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/20230415-IMG_2206-700x557.jpg 700w, https:\/\/www.thewatchnerd.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/20230415-IMG_2206-480x382.jpg 480w, https:\/\/www.thewatchnerd.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/20230415-IMG_2206-150x119.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.thewatchnerd.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/20230415-IMG_2206-768x611.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.thewatchnerd.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/20230415-IMG_2206.jpg 1000w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\"\/><\/figure>\n<\/p><\/div>\n\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A version of this appeared on the RedBar Group\u2019s global website in June 2023. \u201cI thought it might be larger,\u201d says Dr Roger Smith OBE, as he holds Pocket Watch No.2, the watch he presented to Dr George Daniels over twenty-five years ago. 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