{"id":294278,"date":"2025-06-15T05:22:45","date_gmt":"2025-06-15T05:22:45","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/peraltafinancing.com\/uncategorized\/a-fantastic-article-on-stand-up-comedy-and-mental-health-mind-palaver\/"},"modified":"2025-06-15T05:22:45","modified_gmt":"2025-06-15T05:22:45","slug":"a-fantastic-article-on-stand-up-comedy-and-mental-health-mind-palaver","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/fivemor.com\/?p=294278","title":{"rendered":"A Fantastic Article on Stand Up Comedy and Mental Health. \u2013 Mind Palaver"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div>\n<p>Hi all. For anybody that\u2019s read Mind Palaver, you\u2019ll know our blog has been dormant for a while. This was because Elle was dealing with some very changeling mental health issues.\u00a0 I\u2019m delighted to say she\u2019s getting better now and will soon be returning to the blogosphere in a new project that will feature many contributors called Different Minds. I\u2019ll let you know when that\u2019s up and running. But for now this is the last proper blog on Mind Palaver.<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019m delighted with this final post as it ties up my contribution to this part of an ongoing dialogue on mental health.<br \/>Below is a paper that was written by Dr Matt Hargrave (that\u2019s him in the above photo). Matt is one of my lecturers at Northumbria University. In this he has discussed mental health with a group of comedians who talk about various conditions or dabble in ideas of challenging states of mind. They are myself, Lauren Pattison, Stewart Lee, Seymour Mace and Felicity Ward. It\u2019s not only one of my favourite things I\u2019ve read on mental health, but also one of my favourite things I\u2019ve read on the art of Stand up. I\u2019ve put a link to the original below.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/mail.google.com\/mail\/u\/0\/?tab=wm#inbox\/FMfcgxwHMGLRPzbgnsswfcXKTXjNhJNw?projector=1&amp;messagePartId=0.1\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/mail.google.com\/mail\/u\/0\/?tab=wm#inbox\/FMfcgxwHMGLRPzbgnsswfcXKTXjNhJNw?projector=1&amp;messagePartId=0.1<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Or you can read the article as pasted below. I would encourage you to do so. It takes huge progressive leaps in reducing stigma and gives us entirely new ways of looking at vulnerability as a positive. He should be commended for this work and I\u2019m delighted to know he plans to continue his research towards releasing a completed book on the subject.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">Persona Studies 2019, vol. 5, no. 2\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">STAGE PERSONA, STAND-UP COMEDY AND MENTAL HEALTH: \u2018PUTTING YOURSELF OUT THERE\u2019\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">M<\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">ATT <\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">H<\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">ARGRAVE\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">A<\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">BSTRACT\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">This article addresses the subject of stand-up and mental health through the prism of comic persona, generating new, non-diagnostic discourses around mental illness. The article focuses on British and Australian comedians whose material addresses conditions such as bipolar disorder (John Scott), depression and anxiety (Seymour Mace; Lauren Pattison; Felicity Ward), or feigns the staging of mental collapse (Stewart Lee). Based on the analysis of live events and one-on-one interviews, the essay considers the role that persona plays in mediating the relationship between the comedian and their material, arguing that shaping persona is key to developing practices framed within a poetics of vulnerability.\u00a0<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">K<\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">EY <\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">W<\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">ORDS\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">Vulnerability; Role; Comedy; Mental Health; Stigma; Performance\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">I<\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">NTRODUCING PERSONA<\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">, <\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">STAND<\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">\u2013<\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">UP<\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">, <\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">AND MENTAL HEALTH\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">One of the first tasks of the stand-up comedian on their stage entrance is to amplify their voice, usually by means of a microphone. At the same time, they must attempt something more complex but no less vital: to amplify their subjectivity by means of persona. My use of persona references Erving Goffman\u2019s definition: the \u201cimplicit or explicit claim\u201d that a social being makes \u201cto be a person of a particular kind\u201d (1959, p. 24); in this case a distilled, or exaggerated, essence of themselves, embodied on stage, which becomes the vehicle for their comedy. Several authors (Brodie; Double; Frances-White &amp; Shandur; Ince; Quirk) have stressed the importance of persona in comedy, between them providing the basis for a critical framework. First, the comic\u2019s persona must be highly subjective and quickly signal their unique perspective on the world. This becomes particularly apparent in club nights featuring four or five comedians. In a short time, the stand-up must convince the audience of <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">who they are, <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">a process which is mirrored in Chris Rock\u2019s joke: \u201cWhen you meet somebody for the first time, you\u2019re not meeting them, you\u2019re meeting their representative\u201d (Rock 1999)<\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">.<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">i <\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">Secondly, subjectivity must be maintained consistently: most comics will not move from surreal flights of fancy to politcal gags, or from physical clowning to confessional depth, unless they address this tonal shift as an integral part of their act. As Robin Ince explains, \u201cAn audience need to know what they believe they are dealing with \u2013 the universe they occupy must be defined\u201c (2018a, p. 126). For Ince, the authenticity of who he is on-stage would be undermined if he could not meet people \u2018as himself\u2019 off-stage after the performance (2018b).<\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">ii <\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">Thirdly, the persona of many stand-ups will convey not just a specific point of view but a socially marginal one. As folklorist Ian Brodie points out, \u201cmarginalisation is a subjective framework created by the performer in collusion with the\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">67\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">Hargrave\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">audience\u201c (2014, p. 104). One of the ways a marginalised framework might be created is when a comedian openly declares mental distress, which is itself the playing out of a stigmatised social identity. <\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">The symbiotic relationship between comedy and mental health is an open secret that, <\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">until recently, few have considered more than common fact. The \u2018tears of a clown\u2019 and\/or suicidal comedian are cultural clich\u00e9s and can be summarised in the Groucho Marx joke: A man goes to an analyst and says he has lost the will to live. The doctor says, \u201cWhy not go to the circus to see Grock, the world\u2019s funniest clown. I\u2019m sure you will be much happier\u201d. The man says, \u201cI am Grock\u201d (qtd in Kanfer 2001 p. 432). It is a cultural trope that the desire to perform stand-up comedy is itself evidence of a mental health problem. Judd Apatow\u2019s book of conversations with fellow comedians, for example, is called <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">Sick in the Head <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">(2015). \u201cWhen someone is laughing\u201d, Apatow explains, \u201cI know they don\u2019t dislike me \u2026 I \u2026 need \u2026 constant approval\u201d (qtd in Maron &amp; McDonald 2017, p. 237).<\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">iii <\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">The point is reinforced by the late Robin Williams:\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">How desperately insecure we are that made us do this for a living \u2026 you get to do stuff, where if you did it in the street people go: \u2018That man! He talked about his penis! To me openly!\u2019 And you do it in a club, suddenly there\u2019s this license to thrill \u2026 You\u2019re this weird insecure guy who does this looking, like Lenny Bruce said, looking for love. Do you love me? Temporarily? Kind of? I don\u2019t care if you love me, I gotta say this shit. Is that an artist or is that a sociopath? Or a psychopath? \u2026 Well I\u2019m not going to label him! (Maron 2010)\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">Williams\u2019 positioning of himself as outsider is part of what Brodie means by \u201cthe vernacular theory of comedy\u201d which views the comedian as a social type differentiated as \u201cmarginalized \u2026 rooted in loneliness and the need for approval \u2026 seeing the world from a different perspective\u201d (2014, p. 104). The sense that there is something \u2018wrong\u2019 with comedians has led to medical studies that seek to uncover apparent psychotic traits: psychological profiling via online tests indicate that \u201cperception aberration\u201d (paranormal or magical thinking); \u201ccognitive disorganisation\u201d; \u201canhedonia\u201d (inability to feel pleasurable emotions); and impulsive risk taking are all disproportionately found to be traits of stand-ups (Ando et al. 2014).<\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">iv\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">In this essay, I address the under-researched issue of comedy and mental health through the prism of comic persona. I do not diagnose comedians, rather I seek to analyse the vivid contribution that stand-ups make to understanding vulnerable states of mind. I focus on British and Australian comedians whose material addresses conditions such as bipolar disorder (John Scott), depression and anxiety (Seymour Mace; Lauren Pattison; Felicity Ward), or feigns the staging of mental collapse (Stewart Lee). Based on analysis of live events and one-on-one interviews, I consider the role that persona plays in mediating the relationship between comedian and material or between comedian and audience. I suggest that there are at least five ways that persona operates in this context: as a protective device which allows the performer to share vulnerabilities (Scott); as an interruption of an established identity which allows the voicing of revelations (Pattison); as a theatrical conceit which troubles the notion of fixed identity (Lee); as an emotional distancing effect (Ward); and as a way of articulating a sense of belonging (Mace). I am not suggesting that such persona transactions are purely technical devices that can be picked off the shelf by the next aspiring comedian: they are deeply embedded in each individual and work in specific ways. Nor do I intend to be patronising or reductive about a complex performance dynamic. I argue that by describing and analysing the <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">affect <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">of persona, it is possible to understand the importance and subtlety of self-presentation as <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">one component <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">in conveying complex subject matter. The analysis of stand-up and persona, I assert, can make an original and important contribution to the fields of persona studies and to the emerging field of performance and mental health. Such analysis dismantles reductive\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">68\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">Persona Studies 2019, vol. 5, no. 2\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">binaries (well\/sick; sane\/insane; happy\/suffering) and leads to more productive ways of thinking: not to administer or medicate, but to illuminate the subjective experience of stigmatised states of being. \u2018Mental health\u2019, in so far as it means anything, is the capacity to develop \u2013 and cope with having \u2013 a self. \u2018Mental health\u2019 is embedded in the craft of stand-up since the form places high demands on the individual practitioner\u2019s ability to negotiate this self aesthetically and publicly.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">My essay is underpinned by the philosophical work of Erinn Gilson, who argues that vulnerability is an increasingly urgent issue in the neoliberal era, in which the prevailing mode of selfhood is \u2018entrepreneurial subjectivity\u2019 that promotes competitive self-seeking as the only rational choice. Gilson\u2019s <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">Ethics of Vulnerability <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">(2014) explores the implications of three assertions: first, that the normative equivalence of vulnerability with weakness devalues vulnerability as something socially \u2018bad\u2019; second, that vulnerability can be viewed as an ethical resource that helps manifest virtues of empathy and compassion; and third, that vulnerability is often wrongly reduced to a state of perpetual risk, as opposed to an ambiguous, multifaceted, and productive experience, full of human potential. I argue that stand-up, as an artistic and social platform, provides a unique place to observe vulnerability at work and offers a critique of the entrepreneurial self. Like Gilson, I question why vulnerability is overwhelmingly equated with socially undesirable indicators such as weakness and risk. I argue that vulnerability is an aesthetic and social resource to be explored and celebrated. I take this theme forward here, echoing comedian Phil Jupitus:\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">I\u2019ve always had this belief that you have to have something wrong with you to want to do stand-up, because it is putting yourself (particularly as a performer) in possibly the most vulnerable position you can be in, aside from people who fuck each other in Amsterdam for money \u2026 I think it\u2019s really baring and putting yourself out there. (qtd in Double 2013, p. 129)\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">The craft of stand-up involves a dual decision: not only the choice to put your \u2018self\u2019 out there but also which \u2018self\u2019 to send as representative.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">P<\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">ERSONA AS SHIELD<\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">: J<\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">OHN <\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">S<\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">COTT<\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">\u2019<\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">S CREATIVE RECOVERY\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">The first category of comic persona is that of protective shield: a mode of address which allows the comic to choose those parts of him- or herself that they will allow public scrutiny. It permits the voicing of vulnerabilities that would otherwise be too painful to share. Scottish comedian John Scott has, in his own words, had \u201cnineteen years\u2019 experience as a comedian and twenty-four years\u2019 experience as a mental health service user\u201d. Furthermore, he says: \u201cI don\u2019t think comedians statistically experience mental health issues any more than the general public at large. It\u2019s just that you hear them talk about it\u201d (Scott 2019). Scott points out in his 2017 show <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">Delusions <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">that the relationship between his psychiatric self and his comic self has always privately, if rarely publicly, intertwined:\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">The unusual thing about me I suppose is it was actually becoming a comedian that got the right diagnosis. When I started out in comedy I was without treatment. A doctor took sympathy on me and also doubted my diagnosis so we had a wee experiment with going meds free. So after six weeks I went back to see the doctor. How are you doing meds free? she asked. AWESOME I said, I\u2019VE BECOME A COMEDIAN. She went, Oh no \u2026 I was worried about something like this happening \u2026 At one point I visited the local GP because my condition was acting up, and he didn\u2019t believe I was a comedian. He actually thought I was being delusional again. You might be thinking the same. (Scott 2017)\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">69\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">Hargrave\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">Delusions <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">was the first time Scott had \u2018come out\u2019 as having a history of acute mental health difficulties. Utilising a punchline-rich political satire, the show presents his own struggle with bipolar disorder in conjunction with, and possibly as a manifestation of, the current world- political order. Scott deploys the constant interruptive dissonance between his own narrative journey through the mental health system and wider geo-political chaos. The show is a narrative of how he was misdiagnosed with schizophrenia as a young man and the difficult process of having this diagnosis overturned to bipolar disorder, for which he now, by his own admission, receives successful treatment. The show <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">Delusions <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">is both memoir and educative tool. Scott\u2019s message is one of creative recovery:\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">There\u2019s been a lot said about anxiety and depression but this show looks at the more acute end of mental health and is about the period in my life when I was misdiagnosed with schizophrenia. Don\u2019t worry I got better \u2026 but I wouldn\u2019t want to catch it again. (Scott 2017)\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">Scott\u2019s on-stage persona is not far from his everyday self: affable, good humoured, sharing of enthusiasms. The lines above, early in the show, demonstrate how far he is at pains to put the audience at ease, to acknowledge the potential for discomfort and to gently put it to rest. As he said in interview:\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">I\u2019ve never exposed myself like this as a comedian. I felt very vulnerable doing this, now I feel empowered by it. Vulnerability in stand-up comedy is really when you\u2019re talking about very personal material. It\u2019s not just whether they are going to laugh at this, it\u2019s how they are going to take me as a person because of this \u2026 It\u2019s probably the most out of my comfort zone space I\u2019ve ever been as a comedian \u2026 Rather than saying \u2018I\u2019m weak, I\u2019m vulnerable\u2019 I\u2019m using the defence of laughter as a barricade, as a shield, but that is my job as a stand-up. (Scott 2019)\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">Perhaps the most affecting moments in his routine, and some of the funniest, are when Scott tells how others around him were implicated in the diagnostic journey from schizophrenia to bipolar. After an involved description of the events leading to the over-turning of his first diagnosis, his then girlfriend is consistently referenced as a supportive other: \u201cI should also mention I no longer have that girlfriend in these stories any more \u2026 Now she\u2019s my wife\u201d (Scott 2017). As Scott explained:\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">My wife is pivotal [in the show]: helping me get the treatment. When I first spoke of this and I talked about her \u2013 it hit me \u2013 I became very emotional how hard it had been for both of us. So I checked myself and tried to write in a way that wouldn\u2019t make me emotional. I was very conscious. I could have made it more sentimental but I wanted to keep it to just for laugh. I don\u2019t want people getting weepy. (Scott 2019)\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">This is an important principle of what I refer to as a poetics of vulnerability: that vulnerability avows structural support. I argue that Scott\u2019s work, like others discussed here, extends Gilson\u2019s idea of vulnerability as a productive human state: it is an aesthetic \u2013 and comedic \u2013 resource, which has not thus far been properly understood. <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">Delusions <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">upsets the notion of the self as autonomous entity: Scott\u2019s journey is an implicit critique of the ideology of what Gilson terms \u2018entrepreneurial subjectivity\u2019, the now prevalent mode of citizenship which promotes competitive self-seeking. What comes across clearly in his material is the care and attention of a range of psychiatrists and a loving partner who supported Scott to attain his current equilibrium. <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">Delusions <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">then<\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">, <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">despite being a solo performance, to borrow from Shannon Jackson, \u201cforegrounds performance as a series of supporting relations\u201d (2011, p. 42). This is\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">70\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">Persona Studies 2019, vol. 5, no. 2\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">echoed in two iterations of the performance I have seen where Scott openly refers to written material on the stage floor. He makes no secret that this work is \u2018supported\u2019 by written material and occasionally allows us to see the written mechanism that comics often keep hidden.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">Scott\u2019s psychiatric condition, bipolar disorder, is, one might argue, <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">already personified<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">. Psychoanalyst Darian Leader states that bipolar disorder often involves the \u201ccreation of a new persona, as if one were someone else\u201d (2013, p. 15), which he associates with the role of \u201cthe night club entertainer who has to keep his audience focused on himself at all times\u201d (2013, p. 25). Is it \u201cany accident\u201d, Leader asks, \u201cthat manic depression is so common in the world of comedians?\u201d (2013, p. 25). For Leader, the \u2018signature motifs\u2019 of bipolar, during high periods, correlate with stand-up: the flight of ideas; the sense of a special connectedness between things; compulsions and increased appetites; a tendency to create categorical distinctions between good and bad; and the need for an audience. Such correlations have been questioned by comedian Sarah Pascoe:\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">It is tempting to say \u201cYES, that is what comedians are like, we are not normal, we are so special and creative, QUICKLY put us in the attic and get remarried!\u201d But we\u2019re not that interesting. Very little of what we do is inspired. We work hard on sculpting our routines. Through nightly practice. What remains in a set and what gets cut is mostly decided by the audience, whose reactions are essential within the creative process. Are they psychotic too? (Pascoe 2014)\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">These comments reflect what psychoanalyst Adam Phillips views as the problem of both <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">undervaluing <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">so-called mental illness \u2013 disciplining it through normative rules \u2013 and <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">over- valuing <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">it \u2013 idealising or romanticising those who have \u2018it\u2019 and convey some essential truth (Phillips 2012, p. 197). I do not want to reinforce a binary opposition between \u2018the nightly grafter\u2019 and the \u2018gifted psychotic\u2019. I simply suggest that there is a <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">formal synergy <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">between the art of stand-up and the clinical label of bipolar, as it is defined by Leader. Both \u2018forms\u2019 share a hyper-connectivity; a propensity for word-play and punning; and the need to keep the language flowing: \u201cManic discourse freezes the listener; speaking keeps the other person there \u2026 The listener will often feel manipulated or controlled\u201d (Leader 2013, p. 25). Stand-up is manic speech formalised: the underlying rule that makes stand-up work is that what appears to be dialogue is always one with a silent interlocutor. As comedian Dylan Moran observes: \u201cIt\u2019s like you\u2019re having a conversation with the other person, but you\u2019re having to work it out for both of you\u201d (Maron 2012). Any disturbance in this formal contract, heckling for example, is an exception that proves the rule: it is disruption that must be suppressed to make way for continued monologue.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">P<\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">ERSONA INTERRUPTED<\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">: L<\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">AUREN <\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">P<\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">ATTISON<\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">\u2019<\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">S <\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">\u201c<\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">SHIT TONNE OF LAYERS<\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">\u201d\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">The second category of persona in relationship to comedy and mental health I refer to as \u2018interruptive\u2019 because it splits and refocuses an established persona in order to voice another more layered truth. Perhaps the most shocking example \u2013 and at the time of writing, most influential in the comedy industry \u2013 is the Australian comedian Hannah Gadsby\u2019s 2017 work <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">Nanette<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">, which broke with her habitual persona and has become a touchstone for a re- examination not just of mental health but of the formal conventions of stand-up. These, Gadsby argues, perpetuate harmful tropes of self-degradation and gender violence and make audience and performer complicit in the diminishment of personal suffering through self-deprecation. Mary Luckhurst\u2019s detailed essay on Gadsby in this issue can be read both in its own right and as a kind of parallax to this analysis. A comedienne at an earlier point in her career is Newcastle- born Lauren Pattison, who has enjoyed rapid success over the last two years, with shows <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">Lady\u00a0<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">71\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">Hargrave\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">Muck <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">and <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">Peachy<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">. Pattison\u2019s comic persona plays with her identity as a young woman, recently graduated, who finds herself in a world which jars with her working-class roots. She references her appearance as \u2018cute\u2019 like a baby or a kitten; is self-deprecating about her ability to find suitable relationships; and much of her comedy derives from her class position as the underdog in most relationship and social situations. This persona works itself through the two shows: the first is a break-up narrative, the second a redemption tale of new love and new adventures, touring comedy in Australia. Pattison\u2019s child-adult status is consistently deployed through references to her mum, and the sense that Lauren is vulnerable and in need of being looked after. Pattison willingly delves into the underlying anxieties which underpin her success. Two thirds into <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">Peachy<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">, Pattison moves seamlessly into the following monologue, which occurs after her new boyfriend has bought her a gift, which demonstrates how much he has listened to her, not something she is used to:\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">I find it quite hard to get people to listen. If I want to get people to listen to me I have to charge you \u00a310, put on some sequins and scream into a microphone [<\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">big laugh<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">] that\u2019s how I do it [<\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">as laughter fades<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">] \u2026 \u2018Comedy Lauren\u2019, everyone <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">cares <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">what Comedy Lauren\u2019s got to say. \u2018Normal Lauren\u2019: nobody gives a fuck. No one gives a shit. I can put a joke on Facebook and it\u2019ll get few hundred likes \u2018cause I\u2019m fucking hilarious. I can ask for someone to go for a coffee with me and no one will reply. No one gives a shit about the real me. Everyone just cares about that version of me: the on-stage me, the comedy one, that\u2019s who people want to know, and I can\u2019t be that person all the time. I\u2019m not that person all the time. So this was the first time that someone cared about me, Normal Lauren, who puts on a shit tonne of layers, just to make someone laugh. That\u2019s who someone cared about. (Pattison 2018)\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">When I saw this show live, the immediate impact of these words was incredibly powerful. It was as if someone was literally taking off the mask she had maintained up to this point and trying on another. <\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">Pattison\u2019s reference to the \u201cshit tonne of layers\u201d is a call back to an earlier routine where <\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">she literally dresses herself in an absurd number of clothing layers, awaiting her boyfriend\u2019s arrival. Yet, it also echoes the psychological layering happening in the moment: that what we see on stage is a layered, constructed persona. Perhaps the correlation between the sartorial and the psychological is accidental but Pattison\u2019s work is so carefully written and constructed that this seems unlikely. In its way, it is a direct challenge to the audience, as if she is saying: I\u2019m not <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">just <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">a clown, I\u2019m not <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">just <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">what you can see, I\u2019m a whole other person besides this. This on-stage revelation echoes John Limon\u2019s central thesis that stand-up\u2019s true subject is always abjection: abjection as an abasement and a prostration before the audience; but also abjection as a way to describe \u201csomething miring your life, some skin that cannot be sloughed off, some role \u2026 that has become your only character\u201d (2000, p. 4). Perhaps in this case not the <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">only <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">character, but a character that has suddenly given Pattison a degree of fame and hard-won recognition that would be difficult to give up. It is as if Pattison, like Batman\u2019s enemy, Bane, has found a true purpose through a mask. As Bane in <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">The Dark Knight Rises <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">says of his position: \u201cNo one cared who I was till I put on the mask\u201d (Nolan &amp; Nolan, p.3)Bane\u2019s survival, and perhaps that of some comedians, is dependent on the putting on of a persona.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">Pattison\u2019s work also underlines Alain Ehrenberg\u2019s thesis that \u201cdepression \u2026 serves as a canvas upon which to sketch out the changes in modern subjectivity, the displacement of the hard task of being healthy\u201d (2016, p. 232). Ehrenberg asserts that depression is an endemic contemporary phenomenon, one which reflects the weariness of the postmodern subject, who must undertake the daily labour of self-definition. I argue that stand-up is a particular kind of\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">72\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">Persona Studies 2019, vol. 5, no. 2\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">self-definitional labour, one that reflects \u2013 via persona \u2013 what it means to live in a world of perpetual, self-monitoring choices. Pattison, in <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">Peachy<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">, has achieved the success she desired and been given new choices: international travel, awards, independence. Yet this choice, this sovereignty of the individual, as Ehrenberg terms it, leads to insecurity and the inability to act. Depression is the opposite of the desired social norm: future-orientated, goal-driven, autonomous, proactive, and invulnerable. Pattison, in her portrait of the artist as a young depressive, offers, like several other comics analysed here, a counter-discourse, one that gives voice to depressive subjectivity. This subjectivity is, as Nietzsche once asserted, a complaint: \u201cThere is one small dose of revenge in every complaint\u201d, he said, which \u201ccan give life spice and make it endurable\u201d (qtd in Ehrenberg 2016, p. xiii). There is an anger in Pattison\u2019s words at this point in the show, a reproach, not just to the world at large but to the audience. It is this act of anger that seeks to make the most direct connection. Yet it also hints at the fleeting nature of this connection. It is a statement of rage at one human being\u2019s incapacity to connect beyond the level of the joke.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">P<\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">ERSONA AS THEATRICAL CONCEIT<\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">: S<\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">TEWART <\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">L<\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">EE AND THE GHOSTS OF DEAD COMEDIANS\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">Stewart Lee, who has increasingly had to reinvent his marginalisation because of his commercial success, is an example of the use of persona as theatrical conceit which troubles the notion of a fixed or authentic identity. Deploying a faux-arrogant persona, aggrandising mania coupled with despair, Lee has defined his creative process in part thus:\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">Like a lot of stand-ups I try to write in the rhythm and cadences of someone who has cornered you in a bar or a train carriage, continues drinking steadily and determinedly over a two hour period, grows increasingly agitated and unhappy whilst holding forth on a series of subjects he really knows little about; and in so doing, inadvertently reveals some great truth and\/or the real things that are driving him to despair. (Lee 2013)\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">Lee is underlining an important issue: that comic persona is constructed, intimate and vernacular, and often implies deep-rooted distress. If \u2018agitation\u2019, \u2018despair\u2019, and \u2018unhappiness\u2019, not to mention alcohol and other self-cures, are often part of the dramaturgy of stand-up <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">per se<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">, might this not make stand-up a form <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">a priori <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">equipped to explore mental distress? Some readers may find the inclusion of Lee in this discussion surprising. I am, for the most part, analysing the work of stand-ups who declare a clinically specific mental health issue. Lee does not. But some of his routines have led certain audience members and critics to believe that he has:\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">I was in Dublin and I did a long bit about thinking I\u2019m being haunted by the ghosts of comedians who have killed themselves. It goes on for ages and people buy into it. I\u2019ve had people in the front row going, \u201cCan you see them? Are they around you?\u201d Anyway, a woman in the front row got her camera out and took a photo. So I went, \u201cWhy would you do that? Why would you take a photo of someone remembering people they know who have taken their own lives?\u201d Then she crept out \u2026. she\u2019s a journalist \u2026 and she\u2019s tweeted: \u201cI\u2019ve just seen Stewart Lee have a mental breakdown on stage thinking that ghosts are attacking him.\u201d She bought into it to the point where she thought she\u2019d got a scoop that I\u2019d gone nuts. (Lee 2013)\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">The routine which, which eventually appeared in <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">Stewart Lee\u2019s Comedy Vehicle <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">(BBC 2016), reminds me of Frankie Howard\u2019s joke: \u201cThe most important thing in show business is you\u2019ve <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">got <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">to be authentic. And if you can fake that, you\u2019ve got it made\u201d (qtd in Ince 2014). Lee\u2019s authentic conceit is precisely that: fake. He presents the trope of the wounded clown recovering from\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">73\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">Hargrave\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">childhood trauma (a bullying incident where other boys urinate on him); berates his audience for laughing in all the wrong places (saying \u201cAudiences like you as good as murdered Robin Williams\u201d); and then pretends to hear voices and see the bodies of dead comedians on stage in a painful pseudo-collapse. Part of my research process has involved practising stand-up as a creative intervention with people who identity as mental health service users, which has involved watching recordings of some of the comedians discussed here with members of Recoco Recovery College, Newcastle -Upon-Tyne. Responses to Lee\u2019s recorded work were mixed. One person asked: \u201cHow does he get an audience for that?\u201d (Seminar 2019b). Another praised the way Lee was able to weave different elements together over the course of the half hour so that if you missed one bit, you would miss the whole point. Another found it offensive and walked out, stating: \u201cThat is totally disgusting. I\u2019ve heard voices. You can\u2019t take the piss out of that\u201d (ibid). Another stated \u201cI laugh at my voices like he does. You\u2019ve got to laugh about it\u201d (ibid). Furthermore, we discussed the possibility that Lee was doing the equivalent of blacking up: \u2018madding up\u2019. If so, who had the authority to claim ownership of madness? To exercise its limits?\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">Stand-up troubles the relationship between public statement and truth: in the field of medicalised mental health, which has become ever more obsessed with the \u2018objective\u2019 truth of diagnosis, stand-up can convey the limits of such objectivity. Lee\u2019s deployment of persona dismantles any simple, unambiguous model combining stand-up and mental health. I argue that the utility of stand-up \u2013 in deconstructing stigma for example \u2013 is not limited to the \u2018honest\u2019 or \u2018authentic\u2019 confession of mental health labels. The complex interplay of public utterance, joke, truth, persona, and audience-performer relationship creates a space in which all fixed labels, especially those of psychological instability (which cause some people to be described sane and others mad) seem to disappear for the life of the performance. It is by understanding how each comic manages the relationship between truth, persona, and so- called illness that stand-up might offer new ways of thinking about the lived experience of mental health. In Lee\u2019s case, the line between art and psychosis is intentionally blurred when he discusses the distance between himself and his stage persona:\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">I remember being on stage in Liverpool, and a terrible thing had happened in Liverpool that week and I was thinking how awful it would be to accidentally mention that and I found myself up above myself looking down on myself and I was saying all these things and I was trying to stop me from doing it and I realised that it wasn\u2019t happening, that I wasn\u2019t saying those things and I became this other personality and I lost time. I don\u2019t know what I was doing in that time, I had a kind of panic that this other voice had got the better of me. But now I use that. I sort of let it \u2026 let it do things, and I think I can normally get it back before it\u2019s ruined everything. It might be from having been in the double act, with Rich Herring, where that was sort of my function, was to, um, bait him into going too far and then I would get the thing back on track. But now I do that to myself. (Hagen 2019)\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">This is an example of where a sort of fugue or panic state has inspired a later creative choice. It is interesting to note that Lee evokes the earlier double act as a potential <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">reason <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">for this voice hearing, as if he is channelling his one-time stage partner, even as a solo act. If the seeing of dead people on stage is fictional, drawing as much on Victorian medium shows as stand-up (Luckhurst 2014), even more ambiguous is the mental mechanics of a live stand-up working out, in the moment, what he can or should get away with. It is possible that this aesthetic choice was born of a previous necessity: an overcoming of an earlier on-stage trauma in which he genuinely lost control. Lee often seeks to \u2018lose the room\u2019 in his longer sets; there is a built-in dynamic of failure in his work where he is consciously trying to make it <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">appear <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">as if the act has\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">74\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">Persona Studies 2019, vol. 5, no. 2\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">lost its way. Lee claims that this is because he wants his act to be liked (or respected) <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">in spite of <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">his on-stage persona, not because it is charming the audience (Lee 2010).\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">P<\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">ERSONA AS DISTANCING EFFECT<\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">: F<\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">ELICITY <\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">W<\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">ARD<\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">\u2019<\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">S EXUBERANT DEPRESSION\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">Australian-born comic Felicity Ward represents a fourth potential category for understanding persona: as an emotional distancing device. Ward describes her on-stage persona as:\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">Quite joyful. I do find it very pleasurable being on stage. I also think that that\u2019s very un- British. It\u2019s not a very common persona over here [in the UK] to be exuberant on stage. It also depends on confidence. If I\u2019m confident I can get away with being really cheeky or really dark and because the audience feel safe, they know that they\u2019re going to come out of it \u2026 I\u2019m not a sit-back-on-my-heels, cynical, you\u2019ll-come-to-me, kind of comic. I\u2019m very open-hearted. (Ward 2019)\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">This \u2018open-heartedness\u2019 has led one reviewer to refer to Ward\u2019s comedy as \u201chighly strung and needy\u201d (Logan 2015). Logan\u2019s review of Ward\u2019s 2015 Edinburgh festival show <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">What If There is No Toilet? \u2013 <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">a narrative of anxiety, depression and irritable bowel syndrome; and of recovery from recurrent on-stage panic attacks brought on by the fear that Ward would be unable to find a toilet if needed \u2013 claims that Ward has \u201cbrought her nervous negative energy under control\u201d and \u201clearned how to use it <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">for good<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">\u201d (Logan 2015, my italics). Logan underlines an important issue: the extent to which vulnerability is equated with socially undesirable characteristics such as \u2018neediness\u2019, an over-burdensome way of being in the world which is <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">not <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">\u2018good\u2019. Logan\u2019s brief critique of Ward\u2019s persona suggests that the success of <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">What If There is No Toilet? <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">is due, in part, to Ward having \u2018tamed\u2019 her anxiety. The show, with its narrative thread of recovery, has outed the panic attacks that were once hidden: it has made them material as well as persona. Or put another way, the show has made Ward\u2019s anxiety more bearable to Logan because \u2018it\u2019 has been explained. Thus, Logan is ambiguously both celebrating Ward\u2019s vulnerability <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">and <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">setting the \u2018proper\u2019 parameters of how it should be deployed. There is a potential gender bias in such criticism. As Ward says:\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">I think something that has been tricky for British reviewers to swallow with me is I\u2019m not a damaged genius. So sometimes when I do a joke that doesn\u2019t quite get the reaction I want, I say, guys you can clap louder than that, that was <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">very <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">funny. That\u2019s \u2026 faux- arrogance. But other comedians who <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">attack <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">the audience as part of their schtick: they are lorded as being unique. There\u2019s definitely sexism that comes into play. Rose Matafeo [New Zealand comic] and I talk about how women are perceived, how anxiety is perceived. \u2018Oh, she\u2019s very anxious on stage, she\u2019s got an anxious persona, an anxious personality\u2019. And Rose says, they\u2019re writing it like it\u2019s a bad thing! We have anxiety: of course we\u2019re anxious! Many comics come across as depressed, often men are depressed as part of their persona. Or Russell Kane: he\u2019s very hyper; and he\u2019s been hugely successful. When he was first exploding [onto the scene] it was this refreshing, energetic, hyper-active young man. With women, it\u2019s like: \u2018Oh, she\u2019s a bit anxious\u2019. (Ward 2019)\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">In addition to the way that certain readings of female artists reveal gender bias, I argue that the analysis of Ward\u2019s persona can lead to more generative readings of vulnerability as a vital aesthetic resource which extends the range of what is possible in stand-up comedy. At one point in <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">What If There is No Toilet? <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">Ward tells the story of a panic attack she experiences on her birthday. Because she is so distraught, her boyfriend makes the decision to physically restrain her. This is one instance, perhaps, where one\u2019s sympathy for Ward threatens to overwhelm her comedy. However, this moment of extreme vulnerability is undercut in two ways. First, Ward deploys a vivid metaphor to describe her physical state:\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">75\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">Hargrave\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">I started flailing around \u2026 I looked like one of those blow up men out the front of used car dealerships. I\u2019m like N\u2026No! [<\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">begins to physicalise the image arms and body waving as she is speaking but smiling at the same time<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">] These prices are crazy! Everything must go! Nothing to do with diarrhoea, just quality Toyota Camries. [<\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">big laugh from audience<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">] (Ward 2016)\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">This moment jolts the spectator away from the emotional content and toward a more distanced perspective. The comedy arises from the absurd juxtaposition of the lived reality with the metaphorical extension; one that feels oddly apt. A balloon man, after all, has nothing inside him. He is a hollow skin filled with air, he is nothing but the \u2018behaviour\u2019 of his image, which is weightless, chaotic movement. The comedy enriches the metaphor by enacting and physically demonstrating it. It also points to a rather obvious fact about comedy: that it always pushes toward weightlessness. As Kant put it, laughter creates a \u201csudden evaporation of expectation to nothing\u201d, a disappearance of something into the void of laughter (qtd in Critchley 2002, p. 5). In her personification of anxiety as a blow-up man, Ward attains a kind of weightlessness that, however briefly, allows her and her audience to transcend the memory of a trauma, to turn it into material. Far from the unbearable vulnerability of being, for Ward this is the bearable lightness of being Ward. The balloon image works so well, both as poetry and comedy, because it represents a complete <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">lack <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">of subjectivity in a <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">highly <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">subjective moment.<\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">v\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">Secondly, Ward undercuts the vulnerability of the moment by stating, matter-of-factly: \u201cAfter a while I think I just tuckered myself out!\u201d This is followed by a nod and a wink to the audience:\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">It\u2019s very tiring being mentally ill, let me tell you. [<\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">Changes persona into a workout instructor with a faux upper-class English accent<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">] And that\u2019s why I\u2019m in such great shape [<\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">poses, legs stretched in profile, as the instructor, as if for camera<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">]. (Ward 2016)\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">This impish knowingness is a major part of Ward\u2019s persona, Brechtian in its estrangement of material and mood: the exuberant depressive, able to share harrowing personal detail with the breezy flamboyance of a Butlin\u2019s redcoat. This is not to suggest that Ward\u2019s smile is somehow fake, the rictus grin of the bored entertainer. Far from it, Ward\u2019s originality lies in her ability to match high level performance energy with searing distress, without ever appearing shamed or in need of sympathy. Ward <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">enjoys <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">performing. In her own words, \u201cperformance is an act of service\u201d (Ward 2019). It is such moments of <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">Verfremdungseffekt <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">that forcefully remind us of performance\u2019s contribution to a poetics of vulnerability: that in heightened states of mood and attention, performance can disrupt the binary that falsely separates the normative good \u2013 socially positive behaviour \u2013 from so-called mental illness (bad). For the time of her performance, Ward suspends the judgement that requires some people to be labelled mad and others sane.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">P<\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">ERSONA AS BELONGING<\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">: S<\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">EYMOUR <\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">M<\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">ACE<\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">\u2019<\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">S REVELS IN DEPRESSION\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">The fifth and final category is that of persona as a way of belonging in the world, of creating and maintaining a useful social role. Seymour Mace is a Newcastle-based comedian who enjoys a cult following due to his long-standing work as a headliner on the club circuit and his award- winning Edinburgh fringe shows, such as <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">Niche as Fuck <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">(2015); <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">Shit Title <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">(2016); and <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">Seymour Mace is My Name: Climb up My Nose and Sit in my Brain <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">(2019). Difficult to categorise, Mace\u2019s work regularly includes material about depression: \u201cI\u2019ve been spending a lot of time by myself. I\u2019ve been doing that thing where you don\u2019t wash your hair\u2026 Depression.\u201d As Mace stated in interview:\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">76\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">Persona Studies 2019, vol. 5, no. 2\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">It\u2019s easy to see how ridiculous the world is. We wear clothes, build houses, but we\u2019re just animals like all the other animals. Everything is ridiculous. It\u2019s easy to view that negatively. The world is crazy. I see depression as a switch. Because my switch is switched to negative, I only see the negatives. (Mace 2019a)\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">Mace rarely allows the audience to settle into a cosy relationship with him or the material. There is something edgy about his work: he is not asking you to build a relationship with him. He is not asking for permission. He uses his voice and body boldly: this is me. Take or leave it but <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">I will make you laugh<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">. Often his observations are delivered in a conversational drawl, frequented by pauses, doubtful err\u2019s and ah\u2019s. The comedy is heightened by the way polished material is scuffed and broken up by the slowness of delivery. The literal transcription of the above joke would be:\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">So err, right, I\u2019ve err I\u2019ve been spending a lot of time by myself\u2026 been doing that thing where you don\u2019t wash your hair\u2026 Depression.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">Perhaps of all the comics whose persona I analyse here Mace is the one who presents the least concern for what the audience thinks of him. This is not the \u2018faux arrogance\u2019 that Ward and Lee utilise to great effect. With Mace, unlike Ward and Lee, one is rarely conscious of another self, peeking through the fa\u00e7ade. Mace\u2019s on-stage self is closer to a kind of ontological ground zero: a purified deprecated self, which acts as a foundation from which all else follows. His uniqueness lies in the juxtaposition of a depressed, despairing, often angry perspective on the world \u2013 its injustice, its need for conformity \u2013 with flights of childlike fancy and a love of home-made theatrical props. This conjunction has led to his work being described as \u201cdark whimsy\u201d, which Mace has further dubbed \u201cGrimsy\u201d (see Goldsmith 2016).\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">A normative reading (or performing) of vulnerability would single out Mace as \u2018the vulnerable one\u2019 because he is speaking of suffering, different in essence from the autonomous, invulnerable spectators. Such a reading would be wholly in keeping with normative assumptions that seek to close down a nuanced engagement with vulnerability. Stand-up circumvents this paradigm in several ways. The most obvious way this happens is that comedians have the microphone, and thus take control of the room. As Mace puts it:\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">There\u2019s a definite separation between the persona on stage and the persona off stage. A lot of people don\u2019t get that, they expect you to be that person they just saw on stage. For many people, their worst nightmare is doing what I do, getting on stage in front of people but for me it\u2019s the opposite way round: the stage is the <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">one <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">place where I feel comfortable where I can be 100% myself. I can be a complete arsehole and its perfectly alright for people to laugh at me. If I did this kind of thing out on the street I would be sectioned. It would be <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">inappropriate <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">to form a crowd and laugh at me. For me on stage is only place where I feel sane. I feel at one. When I get off stage that\u2019s the insane place. I have to wear blinkers, I have to fit in with society, become a happy little robot \u2026 I\u2019d happily be on stage all the time. (Seminar 2019a)\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">Echoing both Robin Williams\u2019 and Lauren Pattison\u2019s comments, what is remarkable is how much of this off-stage conversation \u2013 recorded in a public seminar \u2013 found its way into Mace\u2019s 2019 show <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">Climb Up My Nose, <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">almost verbatim. These words elicited much laughter in an Edinburgh fringe preview, suggesting that the line between the on-stage and off-stage persona is not quite as clear-cut as Mace suggests. I do not know whether the off-stage conversation was a \u2018bit\u2019 before the seminar, or whether Mace logged it in his mind and decided to use it for the show at a later stage. I do not think that this matters; my point is not to \u2018test\u2019 the origin or authenticity of a thought. The point is the fluidity between life lived and life as material. For Mace, and perhaps\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">77\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">Hargrave\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">for many comics, there is no distinct line. It is as though Mace is continually inhabiting a <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">potential <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">stage, where personal revelation operates as material and vice versa. In his full-length fringe shows \u2013 and in his monthly panel show <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">Seymour Makes it up As He Goes Along <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">\u2013 Mace turns on the house-lights and often eschews use of a microphone. The gap between on- and off- stage is therefore traversed and the informality heightened. In his 2019 show Mace follows the above monologue with a literal illustration of the gap between his on- and off-stage self. Standing off-stage, he stands head down, to the music of Tom Waits, the sombre piano underscoring the slow lyrics: \u201cLonely, Lonely, Lonely I, Lonely place\u201d. Leaping on stage, the music cuts to <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">Uptown Funk <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">by Mark Ronson and Bruno Mars: \u201cCome on, dance, jump on it \/ If you sexy then flaunt it \/ If you freaky then own it\u201d. The demonstration becomes funnier the more the juxtaposition is repeated and the swifter the changes between each persona. With depressive panache, in the performance I viewed, Mace made a point of berating his own performance for its lack of finesse and pointing out all the ways it should be improved. This generated more laughter.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">Any sense of \u2018recovery\u2019 in Mace\u2019s case in not visible or voiced. He exists on-stage in a comic present, any recovery always offset to some future point, some moment where his apartness from the world may end. Indeed, as his most recent Fringe show attests, he had to abandon his working title, <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">Seymour Beats Depression<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">, because he could not beat it (Mace 2019b). Mace\u2019s depression becomes material, alongside other material. This is counter to a normative societal pressure for disability or mental illness to carry a weight of meaning: a warning for others; or a cathartic message to take forward about overcoming tragedy; or an exemplar of the contemporary watchword \u2013 resilience. Mace\u2019s depression, in other words, is not redemptive. During one scratch pub gig in 2017, Mace created a montage of personal humiliation (a ritual shaming by his \u2018parents\u2019, drawn from members of the audience; and indecision as to the practical means of a potential suicide, performed to the soundtrack of Pharrell Williams\u2019s <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">Happy<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">, which offered few obvious punchlines). Such comedy depends on an unusual complicity. Mace invited several spectators to join him on stage, to play members of his family. We were given a script. While we briefly rehearsed the lines, Mace stripped down to his underwear. There followed what might be described as a ritual shaming, with each family member taking turns to inform Mace what an inadequate human being he was and that he was not really a member of the family. The majority of the audience met this event with hysterical laughter \u2013 although one did leave in tears. Mace\u2019s humour, I argue, slips the knot of Hannah Gadsby\u2019s <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">Nanette <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">moment because the self-deprecation is so extreme, so foundational to him as a person: it becomes a commentary on deprecation itself and the lengths an audience will go to support a performer. Mace himself is resistant to the idea that his depression is a muse that fuels his comedy, but for me, a delighted spectator, I am not sure. It is as though I am witnessing someone seeking to understand who they are in the world, only able to find themselves, momentarily, through performance. Mace takes something that he finds chronically debilitating in real life and turns it into something beautiful on stage. During <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">Shit Title <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">(2016) he states: \u201cI suffer from depression. Well no, I don\u2019t suffer from it. I revel in it!\u201d So (mostly) does the audience.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">CONCLUSION\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">This essay has demonstrated five ways in which persona can be understood in relation to stand- up and mental health and has focused on the <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">surface <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">presentation of self (persona) rather than the <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">depth <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">of underlying desires (psyche). This focus mirrors both the form of the joke, which deliberately shatters distinctions between surface and depth, and the form of modern psychiatry, which turns surface symptoms into diagnostic labels and thus eschews subjective depth (see Leader 2011, pp. 31-33). Subjectivity, as Darian Leader has argued, is currently\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">78\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">Persona Studies 2019, vol. 5, no. 2\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">missing from clinical responses to mental illness. This is proven by the fact that in a single year (2008) only 0.17 per cent of published medical papers about schizophrenia referenced patients\u2019 direct experience (Geekie &amp; Read 2009, p. 25). To treat distress as a problem of pharmacology \u2013 a set of symptoms, an object to be treated, a pill to be swallowed \u2013 denies the essential human stories that create a person and enable them to connect with others. Stand-up provides a direct channel to these stories and gives permission for other stories to be heard.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">In this essay I am suggesting new theoretical perspectives in the emerging field of performance and mental health. I am offering the field a poetics of vulnerability. Such a poetics suggests that that vulnerability is a comedic resource to be used and celebrated: that vulnerability invites spectators\u2019 complicity; that it re-avows concepts of support and care; and that it places both fixed identity and fixed judgement in doubt. Stand-up is an art form well suited to \u2018therapeutic subjectivity\u2019 \u2013 the projection of an inner self that needs to be witnessed and understood by others. This operates in resistance to \u2018entrepreneurial subjectivity\u2019 that promotes competitive self-seeking as the only rational choice and which makes the individual consumer solely responsible for his or her own health.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">A poetics of vulnerability also supports the concept that performance and mental health is a gendered subject: performance mirrors the cultural tendency for male artists\u2019 distress to be \u201creframed as [being] indicative of essentially male attributes of creativity, uniqueness\u201d (Bell 2011, p. 203) whereas the \u201chysterical body has become emblematic of all the traditionally negative characteristics considered to be feminine: duplicity, theatricality, suggestibility, instability, weakness, passivity and excessive emotionality\u201d (Bankey 2001, p. 40). The comic form does however render this category ambiguous. The artists discussed here engage in an art form that utilises <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">all <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">the negative \u2018feminine\u2019 characteristics, identified by Bankey, as <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">constitutive of its craft<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">: duplicity (Scott\u2019s misdirection and double meaning); theatricality (Ward\u2019s exaggerated personification); suggestibility (Lee\u2019s outrageous maintenance of false truth in the service of the joke); weakness (Pattison\u2019s revelation of vulnerability as a mode of self- deprecation); passivity (Ward\u2019s faux-arrogance of not \u2018caring\u2019 what an audience thinks); and excessive emotionality (Mace\u2019s \u2018manic\u2019 rants).\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">A poetics of vulnerability has room for both acceptance and critique of official diagnostic labels. Ward reports that she is diagnosed with generalised anxiety disorder and emerging depression; Scott, at the point of writing, is content with his fought-for diagnosis of bipolar; and Mace expresses the relief that accompanied his diagnosis of depression (Goldsmith 2016). At no point, aside from Lee\u2019s routine which acts as a meta-commentary on stand-up and depression, is there an indication of the problem of labelling <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">per se<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">. Does this indicate that the <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">absence <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">of diagnostic categories has become unthinkable? Rather it suggests that by wearing the label \u2013 by absorbing it into the persona as it were \u2013 the diagnosis itself has become a kind of shield from a vulnerability that would otherwise be too painful to share. One of the issues that Scott faced when publicising his show was the sudden fact of having the words bipolar and schizophrenia next to his name. Scott had to adjust to the reality that his public persona was now inflected with new labels and over time he became comfortable with them (Seminar 2019a). This is a considerable contribution to a growing culture of de-stigmatising and \u2018un-shaming\u2019 of psychiatric labels.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">F<\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">UNDING\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">This research was supported by the UK Northern Network for Medical Humanities Research Seed Award \u2018Understanding and Developing the Role of Stand-up in Health Education\u2019.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">79\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">Hargrave\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">A<\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">CKNOWLEDGMENTS\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">Thank you to the comedians who gave up their time for interview.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">E<\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">ND <\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">N<\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">OTES\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">i <\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">It is no accident that the joke teller often begins the set with a reference to their own physical <\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">attributes. The laugh comes from the recognition that <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">they see what you see<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">; that they are somehow standing outside themselves <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">seeing themselves as you do<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">: that is why \u201cI know what you\u2019re thinking\u2026\u201d is a common set up line.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">ii <\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">This also demonstrates Ince\u2019s care for his fan base, many of whom will see him repeatedly, <\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">year after year (Ince 2018b). For Stewart Lee, the same applies in a slightly different way: \u201cOne of the reasons I always man the book stall afterwards is I find it very funny to do all that edgy stuff for two hours and then be all, \u2018Hello, how are you? Would you like this signed, too?\u2019\u201d (Self 2016).\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">iii <\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">The portrait that Apatow paints of himself as the artist as a young geek is instructive as a <\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">model or \u2018ideal type\u2019: he is \u201can angry kid\u201d for whom the world does \u201cnot make sense\u201d; and so turns to comedians to \u201cfill the void\u201d (2015, pp. xii-xiii).\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">iv <\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">For detailed examinations of comedy and mental health by practicing comedians see Robin <\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">Ince\u2019s documentary <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">Tears of a Clown<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">, BBC Radio 4 and Susan Calman\u2019s <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">Cheer Up Love: Adventures in Depression with the Crab of Hate.\u00a0<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">v <\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">It also tangentially acts as a comment on a cultural narrative in which female performers are <\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">emptied of subjectivity (see Gregory 2018, pp. 1-2).\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">W<\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">ORKS <\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">C<\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">ITED\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">Ando, V., Claridge, G. &amp; Clark, K. 2014, \u2018Psychotic Traits in Comedians\u2019, <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">The British Journal of\u00a0<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">Psychiatry<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">, vol. 204, no. 5, pp. 341-345. 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