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ASIP: How do you react as a \u201cDJ\u201d during the session? How are you reading the client in the moment?<\/strong><\/p>\nMatt:<\/strong> Like I said earlier, I call that part Psychedelic Soundtracking. It\u2019s the live, real-time response to what\u2019s unfolding in the room. It\u2019s how I adjust the music and the energy of the setting based on how the client is showing up, through their words, their silence, or their emotional state.<\/p>\nI might sketch out a rough plan beforehand similar to filling my record box, but as we learned in traditional counseling, I try not to arrive with a fixed agenda. That kind of rigidity can pull you out of attunement. You might miss what\u2019s actually happening in the moment. So I see it more like a choose-your-own-adventure book. The client\u2019s experience shows us what page to turn to next, and I meet them there musically, just like we do on the dance floor.<\/p>\n
ASIP: What are the emotional or energetic markers from beginning to end of your sessions, and how do you approach curating for those?<\/strong><\/p>\nMatt:<\/strong> At the beginning, during what I call the \u201cHike\u201d, or what others might call the onset, things are usually quiet and restful. The client is often meditating or simply lying still, waiting for the effects to come on. The music is subtle and grounding, the kind of sound that helps you settle in and feel safe, like you’re approaching basecamp.<\/p>\nThen comes the \u201cClimb,\u201d which is where the medicine starts ramping up. This is when emotions begin bubbling up such as crying, laughing, yawning, trembling, shifting around. That\u2019s when I start slowly increasing the energy, emotionality, or psychedelic quality of the music. But it\u2019s not about pushing, it\u2019s about supporting the rising effects and helping them make the climb toward the peak.<\/p>\n
Next is the \u201cSummit,\u201d the peak. This is when the medicine is at full strength, and ego dissolution can happen. For some clients, it\u2019s a storm of emotion. For others, it\u2019s total stillness. Either way, I usually pull the music way back during this time. There\u2019s a kind of reverence in that moment that I try to honor. The music becomes very spacious. I leave room for the imagination to soar.<\/p>\n
After the peak, we enter the \u201cReturn,\u201d or descent. This is when the medicine begins to lose strength and agency starts coming back online. Clients might begin to move again, process what just happened, or begin noticing what\u2019s unfolding as they slowly return to their senses. The music reflects that with something melodic and comforting, often with a feeling of homecoming. This is a great phase for what I call \u201cmusic for remembering.\u201d It helps the client begin to make sense of what they just experienced.<\/p>\n
ASIP: Can you explain the different types of music you use, and what mixtures or styles usually work best and what doesn\u2019t?<\/strong><\/p>\nMatt: <\/strong>Ah, the notorious genre question. Well, I\u2019ve got a soft spot for the classics such as trippy electronic ambient from the \u201990s chillout universe, modern neoclassical with lush synths, psychedelic downtempo, and a lot of expansive, cinematic soundscapes. But for me, it\u2019s less about genre and more about emotion and visual enhancement. I lean into music that has emotional depth and visual texture. I need to feel it in my body and see it in my mind. It has to stir something, whether that\u2019s ache, awe, release, or some associated memory.<\/p>\nOne thing I\u2019ve noticed \u2014 and this might surprise some of the more minor-chord\u2013leaning dancefloor DJs out there \u2014 is that I often use major chords and melancholic sublimation in sessions. You can hear this approach in Psilocybin Therapy Protocol 1<\/em>, which I describe more as \u201cThe Light.\u201d<\/em> This protocol is typically used in early sessions, especially with new clients. The music holds a tone of beauty, grace, and uplift, not in a naive or saccharine way, but in a way that gently invites the heart to open. It\u2019s music that\u2019s both sad and beautiful. Sublimative. It doesn\u2019t deny pain, it transforms and resolves it.<\/p>\nThis kind of music resonates with the core human paradox: the struggle and the gratitude of being alive at the same time. For many clients, especially early on, that emotional tone helps them soften into the experience. It creates a container where the nervous system can feel safe enough to let go. It\u2019s the sound of surrender, not force.<\/p>\n
On the other hand, Psilocybin Therapy Protocol 2<\/em>, which I call \u201cThe Shadow,\u201d<\/em> leans into darker, heavier, more introspective psychedelic material with minor chords, tension, and the kind of raw emotionality that meets people deep in their grief, anger, regret, or trauma. These tracks are often used with experienced journeyers or when a client is ready to confront deeper material. It\u2019s still intentional, it\u2019s not \u201cdark for the sake of dark\u201d, but it meets the psyche where it\u2019s at, and it creates a necessary counterbalance to the more major-leaning, sublimative compositions that I\u2019ve found effective for therapeutic work.<\/p>\nWhat doesn\u2019t work for me is dry \u201cpsy-muzak\u201d that lacks energy or sizzle. Music should ignite the senses, spark curiosity, and take you somewhere unexpected. I avoid tracks that feel too safe or lack depth, intensity, or psychedelic flavor. I\u2019m especially mindful of overly dark, twisted, or unnecessarily heavy beat-driven material (unless specifically requested), as it can easily overwhelm or distract in such an intimate, emotionally open therapeutic space. Keep in mind, this is all highly subjective.<\/p>\n
At the end of the day, I\u2019m not choosing music to impress a crowd, I\u2019m choosing it to support the transformation of that audience of one <\/em>that I previously mentioned. That inspires very different selections than what you\u2019d hear in more underground circles. And that means trusting the emotion more than the genre.<\/p>\nASIP: Can you share a track or a moment in a set that continues to resonate with you, something you\u2019ve returned to again and again?<\/p>\n
Matt:<\/strong> Yeah, a few come to mind from Audio Protocol 001. For the onset stage, \u201cTake Me By The Hand (Awakened Souls \u2013 Acid Dream Version)\u201d by 36 & Awakened Souls. Cynthia\u2019s vocals and James\u2019s 303 lines are just… divine! It hits that emotional place where people often start crying, not out of sadness, but from that deep inner shift that happens when the medicine starts to open the heart.<\/p>\nThen around the two-hour mark, often when a booster might be kicking in, I\u2019ll bring in something like \u201cOut (Poemme Remix)\u201d by Ed Harrison or \u201cIliad\u201d by Malibu. Those tracks are pure sublimation: sad but beautiful. They hold sorrow and hope in the same breath, and that kind of emotional container really helps people process what\u2019s surfacing.<\/p>\n
During the descent phase of Protocol 1<\/em>, I mix \u201cExpand\u201d by Endless Melancholy with the ANNA remix of \u201cBelfast\u201d by Orbital. That pairing was originally inspired by a live session with a client years ago, and the reaction was incredibly powerful, it even brought me to tears. It still gives me chills to this day whenever a session calls for it. Together, those two tracks feel like a triumphant return, a kind of emotional homecoming. And that ANNA remix of Orbital\u2019s classic Belfast really hits those \u201cmusic for remembering\u201d nostalgia buttons.<\/p>\nAnd that\u2019s the goal, not just to bring someone back, but to bring them back home, with self-reflection, meaning, and celebration.<\/p>\n
ASIP: There\u2019s a lot of talk about \u201cset and setting.\u201d What do people often overlook when preparing for, or recovering from, a journey? What are people most surprised about?<\/strong><\/p>\nMatt:<\/strong> The number one surprise is always how different the journey ends up being from what they expected. People say they have no expectations but of course they do. We all do. And then the medicine shows them something totally unexpected. Sometimes they\u2019re shocked by how powerful it is. Other times, they\u2019re amazed at how safe or courageous they feel when they assume they\u2019d be terrified.<\/p>\nThat\u2019s always my favorite moment: when someone realizes they\u2019ve reconnected with a part of themselves they forgot was even there. That\u2019s the real magic.<\/p>\n
In terms of preparation, a lot of people forget to start living the life they want on the other side. They wait for the journey to fix them. But I encourage clients to start having conversations with their future selves to ask, \u201cWhat should I be doing now to get ready for who I\u2019m becoming?\u201d<\/em> It\u2019s like tending the garden before the rains come. You clear the weeds, loosen the soil, and plant the seeds of intention. Then the medicine knows where to land.<\/p>\nAnd then there\u2019s the basic stuff: avoiding alcohol, stepping back from news and social media, doing breathwork, staying mindful. These small choices really do help the nervous system prepare to navigate the psychedelic space.<\/p>\n
Post-journey, people often think the afterglow will last forever. It won\u2019t. The high wears off. Life gets lifey again. That\u2019s why integration is crucial. Psychedelics aren\u2019t a fix. They plant seeds, but you still have to water them.<\/p>\n
We go over all of this in the screening and prep sessions. The journey is just one part of the process, but it\u2019s everything around it that makes it sustainable.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"
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