{"id":284522,"date":"2025-06-09T22:51:36","date_gmt":"2025-06-09T22:51:36","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/peraltafinancing.com\/uncategorized\/grieving-levi-part-3-talk-the-talk-walk-the-walk-kathryn-ball\/"},"modified":"2025-06-09T22:51:36","modified_gmt":"2025-06-09T22:51:36","slug":"grieving-levi-part-3-talk-the-talk-walk-the-walk-kathryn-ball","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/fivemor.com\/?p=284522","title":{"rendered":"Grieving Levi Part 3: Talk The Talk, Walk The Walk \u2013 Kathryn Ball"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div>\n<p>When I think back to being invited to our church\u2019s leadership meeting in 2022, I can feel the excitement all over again. I can remember Micah and I half joking about how we weren\u2019t sure if our pastors meant to invite us. I was nervous and excited to be a part of whatever these meetings consisted of but I also felt that being included in leadership would require a heart posture that was open to serve the body, and for loving correction\/discipleship if needed.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>If you couldn\u2019t tell by now, we never expected to be involved in leadership at our church and help carry the weight of the responsibility of stewarding the call on our church. But now when I reflect on it, I see that we had already accepted the call when we submitted to God\u2019s placement of our family there; we were already wholeheartedly giving, serving, worshipping, and praying. We were stewarding the promises of God on the church, fully participating\u00a0in the meetings, and developing relationships within our church. We were simply living\u00a0what we proclaimed so to speak, so why was being involved in leadership meetings so intimidating to me?\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>I realized the intimidation (fear) was rooted in my desire to please our pastors and God, and avoid mistakes in walking this out. I think this comes from realizing that no matter what anyone says, when people find out you\u2019re involved in church leadership in some way, they can begin to criticize you or place you on a pedestal that any one of us will inevitably fall off of because we\u2019re human. Once I identified this lie that fear was attempting to get me to agree with, I was able to confront it head on.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019m so thankful for the Holy Spirit\u2019s gentle and loving correction. He makes it so clear when my thoughts are not in alignment with Him.\u00a0God wasn\u2019t demanding perfection from us, this was directly from the enemy. <\/p>\n<p>The truth is, it\u2019s not my job to manage other people\u2019s expectations of me or my husband. While I love and respect our pastors, my aim is to please God. So often we misplace our needs for acceptance, focused attention, guidance, or protection on church leadership, namely the pastors. However, all four of these emotional needs are met by the Father, not people.\u00a0<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-pullquote is-style-default has-tertiary-background-color has-background has-small-font-size\">\n<blockquote>\n<p><em>When You said<\/em>, \u201cSeek My face [in prayer, require My presence as your greatest need],\u201d my heart said to You,<br \/>\u201cYour face, O\u00a0Lord, I will seek [on the authority of Your word].\u201d<br \/>Do not hide Your face from me,<br \/>Do not turn Your servant away in anger;<br \/>You have been my help;<br \/>Do not abandon me nor\u00a0leave me,<br \/>O God of my salvation!<br \/>Although my father and my mother have abandoned me,<br \/>Yet the\u00a0Lord\u00a0will take me up [adopt me as His child].<br \/>Teach me Your way, O\u00a0Lord,<br \/>And lead me on a level path<br \/>Because of my enemies [who lie in wait].<\/p>\n<p><cite>Psalm 27:8-11 AMP<\/cite><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/figure>\n<p>We\u2019re all prone to misplacing our expectations and needs onto people rather than God. It seems that is especially true of church in general. Church is not a place to come and pretend to be perfect, and there is no room in leadership to attempt to walk it out that way. I refuse to hold my pastors to that impossible standard in fact, I love their authenticity and transparency; so why was I okay with holding myself to an unattainable standard? <\/p>\n<p>Regarding church and life in general, I always want to avoid mistakes because I don\u2019t want to hurt people or steer them in the wrong direction, but the truth is Jesus didn\u2019t come so we have to walk this life out on a tight rope. I\u2019m human, I will make mistakes. It\u2019s not about being perfect, the real test from God is how we walk out our mistakes with Him anyway.<\/p>\n<p>It turned out that the church leadership meetings were exactly what you could expect from attending our prayer meetings. Our pastors and leaders are transparent in their walk with Jesus. The expectation is don\u2019t just talk the talk, you need to walk the walk. How refreshing and healing it was to  see that they are exactly who they say they are, not just because they proclaim it, but because they live this daily.<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019m always pleasantly surprised at the areas that God has healed me in regarding church. In general, I\u2019m big on people\u2019s behavior matching their words. You can say one thing but show me what you really believe by your actions. In time, behavioral patterns will always show you what someone really believes, even if they themselves are self-deceived. I use to think everyone saw this but I\u2019ve realized this seems to be how God uses my natural ability to see behavioral patterns with ADHD, and the gift of discernment and discerning of spirits.<\/p>\n<p>There\u2019s a difference if someone is just analyzing a person and calling it discernment versus true discernment from the Holy Spirit. I don\u2019t analyze, I just see it at some point and typically, discernment doesn\u2019t come with proof- this gift from the Holy Spirit gets misunderstood a lot so I just wanted to make that clarification. It\u2019s relevant to mention this gifting because I can\u2019t un-see what\u2019s really going on and I\u2019m thankful to be a part of a church where leaders are not put on pedestals and instead are expected to serve underneath to uplift the body and the call on the house of God. <\/p>\n<p>In simple terms, we\u2019re involved in leadership meetings, but we\u2019re not designated leaders. We were being asked to continue to be ourselves, to continue to intentionally press into the call of God on our church; to give, serve, worship, and pray, all without an actual title. We felt like it was a gift to not have a particular title while being included in church leadership meetings, and reminded us that a title does not make anyone more important than another. Authority, submission, and roles in the kingdom never mean that someone is more important than another and I think our cultural understanding of these words gets mixed up with scriptural truth.<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s always better to read God\u2019s word and have our misunderstanding of these terms corrected in love. For whatever reason we mix up God ordained authority, submission, and roles with equality in God\u2019s eyes. The fact is, there are no second class citizens in the kingdom of God. Jesus came to serve not be served, and that is the heart posture that is expected at our church.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-pullquote has-text-align-center has-background has-small-font-size\" style=\"background-color:#e6f0ed\">\n<blockquote>\n<p>When he had washed their feet and\u00a0put on his outer garments and resumed his place, he said to them,\u00a0\u201cDo you understand what I have done to you?\u00a0You call me\u00a0Teacher and Lord, and you are right, for so I am.\u00a0<sup>\u00a0<\/sup>If I then, your Lord and Teacher, have washed your feet,\u00a0you also ought to wash one another\u2019s feet.\u00a0<sup>\u00a0<\/sup>For I have given you an example,\u00a0that you also should do just as I have done to you.\u00a0<sup>\u00a0<\/sup>Truly, truly, I say to you,\u00a0a servant is not greater than his master, nor is a messenger greater than the one who sent him.\u00a0If you know these things,\u00a0blessed are you if you do them.<\/p>\n<p><cite>John 13:12-17 ESV<\/cite><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/figure>\n<p>Years ago in 2019, I heard the Holy Spirit say,\u201d You have chronic hope.\u201d I could not have imagined the battle that was ahead of me but I knew I was supposed to write a book and share online about the faithfulness and goodness of God and the promises of God in our life. <\/p>\n<p>When the Holy Spirit was leading me into healing in 2017 for endometriosis, the Lord showed me a vision of pulling women out of pits. It was a sea of pits in desolate land and each woman I helped was then able to help pull other women out and so on and so forth. I thought that meant I was helping woman get access to endometriosis care but God had much bigger plans than the small picture I created in my mind. Micah has always said that I\u2019m doing woman\u2019s ministry but the word ministry always intimidated me.<\/p>\n<p>There were things that had been prophesied over Micah and me over the years, after returning to our church, that seemed impossible. Indeed, whatever the call of God is on our lives, rest assured it will always be impossible without God leading the way. I remember asking God for help with preparing to help others. God made it clear up to that point that I am called to help women. I felt that I needed someone to teach me some foundational truths that I might be missing in order to move forward with God\u2019s plan.<\/p>\n<p>Certainly God isn\u2019t going to have me help others without first helping me prepare for however this ministry to was going to unfold. Knowing that the Holy Spirit is our helper, counselor, teacher, and encourager, I asked for his direction.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-pullquote has-tertiary-background-color has-background has-small-font-size\">\n<blockquote>\n<p>But the\u00a0Helper (Comforter, Advocate, Intercessor\u2014Counselor, Strengthener, Standby), the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name\u00a0[in My place, to represent Me and act on My behalf],\u00a0He will teach you all things. And He will help you remember everything that I have told you.<\/p>\n<p><cite>John 14:26 AMP<\/cite><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/figure>\n<p>After I prayed for help, all I had to do was wait on God. Oof not my favorite. The concept of waiting on God sounds so easy, but sometimes it is the hardest thing for us to do. I followed little nudges from the Holy Spirit to share online about being healed from endometriosis and how to navigate pregnancy loss with Jesus. I had no idea how God was going to meet this need and I certainly never expected Him to do it through a church leaders meeting. <\/p>\n<p>Just goes to show, be careful of the picture you develop in your mind, God rarely stays inside the lines of the box we try to put Him in. <\/p>\n<p>It was in March of 2022 that I met my mentor and her husband, Gloria and Michael Cotten. The Cottens had become part of the spiritual oversight of our church, and had become friends with our pastors. God is relational and has graced our pastors to build relationally. What that means is, meeting Gloria and Michael through God\u2019s placement of us at our church was no accident.<\/p>\n<p>I remember seeing Gloria look at me a couple of times in the meeting. I thought I was just being sensitive but Micah mentioned that she looked at me several times. Our Pastors always have a plan for the subject of the meeting but the Holy Spirit is welcome to interrupt the meeting at any point and change the course direction. <\/p>\n<p>That night was no exception to this rule and my Pastor felt led to have us stand in a circle and release hospitality over us by the power of the Holy Spirit. I was last in the circle, and wouldn\u2019t you know my pastor heard to release a double portion over me. Just as he finished, Gloria came over to me and started prophesying a women\u2019s ministry and hospitality over me. I wish I could have recorded everything she said because it happened so fast. <\/p>\n<p>As she finished prophesying, the meeting came to an end. As we disbursed to clean everything up, Michael came up to us to encourage me to reach out to Gloria. He sensed that this women\u2019s ministry was going to happen sooner not later and to call Gloria the following week. He gave me her number and then went on his marry way.<\/p>\n<p>I remember saying to Micah, \u201cDid that really just happen?\u201d on the way home. We laughed at our impatience with God directing our steps in the face of His perfect timing. Of course the next morning it hit me that I was going to have to call Gloria, a perfect stranger, a spiritual giant in the face of the enemy, like her husband encouraged me to do the night before. <\/p>\n<p>I started sweating at the thought of it and made the decision to wait over the weekend and call the following Tuesday. After all, the meeting was on a Friday night and I didn\u2019t want to overstep any personal boundaries by calling on the weekend.<\/p>\n<p>Plus, I was petrified so there was that.<\/p>\n<p>Tuesday morning rolled around and I started sweating again at the thought of making the call to Gloria. It\u2019s funny, the moment she answered the phone I was able to relax. Gloria shared that she teaches women about God and while they have retired from running their church, they are still very much involved in ministry. <\/p>\n<p>Michael was a pastor and although he has retired, he travels world-wide offering spiritual oversight to various churches as a prophet. Gloria has the spiritual gift of teaching (among many other giftings) where she mentors women, leads bible studies, speaks at churches worldwide, and has written a book called, In the Beginning, Restoring God\u2019s Vision for Women. <\/p>\n<p>She shared that what initially brought her back to God was experiencing 5 miscarriages and 1 stillbirth. Today she has great grandchildren.<\/p>\n<p>It was encouraging to hear a little bit of her story and it gave me a lot of hope for our future. We never know how God is using our circumstances to eventually bring healing to others and this is a prime example of it. Gloria clarified that she saw in the spirit a teaching anointing and women\u2019s ministry on me that night and that is why she kept looking at me. She explained that God made me a teacher but it has not been drawn out of me yet because there are foundations that need to be laid. <\/p>\n<p>Gloria shared that much like Paul says in his letter to the Corinthians (1 Cor 9), the seal of his calling is their draw of the anointing that was on Him. We typically look at Paul\u2019s road to Damascus moment as the proof that He was called by God, but the proof of the anointing was the draw of people to Him. It is the same for us today, it\u2019s the anointing that draws people in, not a title or outward claim of God\u2019s call on our life.<\/p>\n<p>Gloria said that women would be drawn to me, which would be proof of the teaching anointing God has placed on me. It was a relief to hear that God will draw them in, I don\u2019t have to do anything to orchestrate it. She said it might start as one on one bible study, then I might be asked to lead a bible study, then I might be asked to speak at churches or conferences etc. She encouraged me to let the Holy Spirit Shepard me into this. <\/p>\n<p>Gloria reminded me that it\u2019s the Holy Spirit\u2019s job to equip me, but it\u2019s my job to be obedient to Him. This is such a good reminder because it is easy to come up with my own picture of what a women\u2019s ministry might look like but if I\u2019m just focused on Jesus and follow the leading of the Holy Spirit, God will do it.<\/p>\n<p>We ended the call with her offering any help that I needed moving forward. She told me to call her at any point if I had questions. Of course I thought to myself, umm can you just teach me everything you know? Did I actually say this? Nope. I chickened out and honestly, I felt like it would be too much of an imposition to ask for her help. I reasoned that she was probably really busy and didn\u2019t want to impose anything on her. I felt hopeful and encouraged that God was confirming his call of a women\u2019s ministry over my life.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-pullquote has-tertiary-background-color has-background has-small-font-size\">\n<blockquote>\n<p>And\u00a0he gave the\u00a0apostles, the prophets, the\u00a0evangelists, the\u00a0shepherds and teachers,\u00a0to equip the saints for the work of ministry, for\u00a0building up\u00a0the body of Christ,\u00a0until we all attain to\u00a0the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God,\u00a0to mature manhood, to the measure of the stature of\u00a0the fullness of Christ,\u00a0so that we may no longer be children,\u00a0tossed to and fro by the waves and carried about by every wind of doctrine, by human cunning, by craftiness in\u00a0deceitful schemes.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><cite>Ephesians 4:11-14 ESV<\/cite><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/figure>\n<p>Good gracious, a teacher? That explains so much of my life and how I navigate the world. When I learn anything, I end up teaching it in some way to someone else. It also explains why I can\u2019t really get away with anything and tend to have to follow the rules or I\u2019m made to be the example. I have always sought out the truth and will go to the ends of the earth to find it.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-pullquote has-tertiary-background-color has-background has-small-font-size\">\n<blockquote>\n<p>Not many [of you] should become teachers [serving in an official teaching capacity], my brothers and sisters, for you know that\u00a0<strong>we [who are teachers] will be judged by a higher standard<\/strong>\u00a0[because we have assumed greater accountability and more condemnation if we teach incorrectly].<\/p>\n<p><cite>James 3:1 AMP<\/cite><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/figure>\n<p>This checks out, she\u2019s right. What do you know, Micah was right calling this a women\u2019s ministry. Imagine that, ha!<\/p>\n<p>Pastor Whit is so good to remind us that God meets us in our stepping and I\u2019m thankful that I\u2019m no exception to this spiritual truth. I think after hearing all of this, the challenge was knowing what to do next and waiting for the Lord to reveal my next steps. As I was waiting on God, He began to confirm the word Gloria prophesied over me by having several women approach me to mentor them.<\/p>\n<p>Jesus take the wheel, it\u2019s happening.<\/p>\n<p>Nine months later, I was able to take the next steps that lead to the breakthrough I needed\u2026<\/p>\n<p><span id=\"wordads-inline-marker\" style=\"display: none;\"\/>\t\t\t<\/p><\/div>\n\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>When I think back to being invited to our church\u2019s leadership meeting in 2022, I can feel the excitement all over again. I can remember Micah and I half joking about how we weren\u2019t sure if our pastors meant to invite us. 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