{"id":282643,"date":"2025-06-09T01:45:55","date_gmt":"2025-06-09T01:45:55","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/peraltafinancing.com\/uncategorized\/real-raw-redeemed-from-brokenness-to-purpose-with-robin-gerblick-episode-207\/"},"modified":"2025-06-09T01:45:55","modified_gmt":"2025-06-09T01:45:55","slug":"real-raw-redeemed-from-brokenness-to-purpose-with-robin-gerblick-episode-207","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/fivemor.com\/?p=282643","title":{"rendered":"Real, Raw, Redeemed: From Brokenness to Purpose with Robin Gerblick Episode 207"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div>\n<p>\t\t\t\t<!--powerpress_player--><\/p>\n<p><meta itemprop=\"name\" content=\"Real, Raw, Redeemed: From Brokenness to Purpose with Robin Gerblick Episode 207\"\/><meta itemprop=\"uploadDate\" content=\"2025-06-03T09:28:34-04:00\"\/><meta itemprop=\"encodingFormat\" content=\"audio\/mpeg\"\/><meta itemprop=\"duration\" content=\"PT45M48S\"\/><meta itemprop=\"description\" content=\"&#10;Welcome back to Fierce Calling! In this inspiring episode, host Doris Swift sits down with Robin Gerblick, an award-winning author, biblical life coach, and founder of the Exodus Women\u2019s Retreat. Robin shares her powerful story of redemption, from a...\"\/><meta itemprop=\"contentUrl\" content=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/fiercecallingpodcast\/content.blubrry.com\/fiercecallingpodcast\/Robin_Gerblick_207.mp3\"\/><meta itemprop=\"contentSize\" content=\"42.0\"\/><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/player.blubrry.com\/?podcast_id=145998058&amp;media_url=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia.blubrry.com%2Ffiercecallingpodcast%2Fcontent.blubrry.com%2Ffiercecallingpodcast%2FRobin_Gerblick_207.mp3#mode-Light&amp;border-000000&amp;progress-000000\" scrolling=\"no\" width=\"100%\" height=\"165\" frameborder=\"0\" id=\"blubrryplayer-1\" class=\"blubrryplayer\" title=\"Blubrry Podcast Player\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/fiercecallingpodcast\/content.blubrry.com\/fiercecallingpodcast\/Robin_Gerblick_207.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/dorisswift.com\/?powerpress_pinw=42659-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/fiercecallingpodcast\/content.blubrry.com\/fiercecallingpodcast\/Robin_Gerblick_207.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"Robin_Gerblick_207.mp3\">Download<\/a> (Duration: 45:48 \u2014 42.0MB) | <a href=\"#\" class=\"powerpress_link_e\" title=\"Embed\" onclick=\"return powerpress_show_embed('42659-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Embed<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe:  | <a href=\"https:\/\/dorisswift.com\/subscribe-to-podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_more\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"More\" rel=\"nofollow\">More<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Welcome back to Fierce Calling! In this inspiring episode, host Doris Swift sits down with Robin Gerblick, an award-winning author, biblical life coach, and founder of the Exodus Women\u2019s Retreat. Robin shares her powerful story of redemption, from a painful past marked by abortion and decades of wandering, to finding healing and purpose through Jesus. Together, Doris and Robin discuss the real, raw, and redeemed journey that led Robin to embrace forgiveness, launch a transformative women\u2019s ministry, and write her book, <em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Giving-Up-Grace-Spiritual-Rebranding\/dp\/B0CZY2NYY5\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Giving Up Grace: A Spiritual Rebranding of the Soul<\/a><\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>Robin opens up about the challenges she faced, the grace she found after hitting rock bottom, and how God used her story to impact the lives of other women. Whether you\u2019re struggling with regret, searching for healing, or just needing a reminder that it\u2019s never too late to step into your calling, Robin\u2019s testimony will encourage you to trust God\u2019s timing and reclaim your joy. <\/p>\n<p>Plus, discover how Robin\u2019s retreats empower women to encounter God in the wilderness and take the next steps toward spiritual wholeness.<\/p>\n<p>Tune in for an honest, hope-filled conversation about surrender, restoration, and stepping boldly where passion, compassion, and conviction intersect!<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter size-full is-resized\"><a href=\"https:\/\/robingerblick.com\/book\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\" noreferrer noopener\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"315\" height=\"466\" data-attachment-id=\"42660\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/dorisswift.com\/2025\/06\/03\/real-raw-redeemed-from-brokenness-to-purpose-with-robin-gerblick-episode-207\/81vz8ynrol-_sy466_\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/dorisswift.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/81vZ8YNroL._SY466_.jpg?fit=315%2C466&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"315,466\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"81v+Z8YNroL._SY466_\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/dorisswift.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/81vZ8YNroL._SY466_.jpg?fit=203%2C300&amp;ssl=1\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/dorisswift.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/81vZ8YNroL._SY466_.jpg?fit=315%2C466&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/dorisswift.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/81vZ8YNroL._SY466_.jpg?resize=315%2C466&amp;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-42660\" style=\"width:237px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/dorisswift.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/81vZ8YNroL._SY466_.jpg?w=315&amp;ssl=1 315w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/dorisswift.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/81vZ8YNroL._SY466_.jpg?resize=203%2C300&amp;ssl=1 203w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 315px) 100vw, 315px\"\/><\/a><\/figure>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Episode Highlights<\/h2>\n<p>00:00 \u201cSurrendering Joy Stealers\u201d<\/p>\n<p>05:17 \u201cReal, Raw, Redeemed Journey\u201d<\/p>\n<p>09:27 Regret Over Missed Adoption Choice<\/p>\n<p>11:53 \u201cSeeking Identity Before Faith\u201d<\/p>\n<p>15:31 \u201cGiving Up Grace Explained\u201d<\/p>\n<p>17:54 \u201cBelieving Is Seeing: Trusting God\u201d<\/p>\n<p>22:52 Abortion\u2019s Lasting Impact on Fertility<\/p>\n<p>24:41 Volunteering at Crisis Pregnancy Centers<\/p>\n<p>28:33 \u201cGrace: Healing and Reflection\u201d<\/p>\n<p>31:43 Grace, Stories, and Comfort<\/p>\n<p>36:51 \u201cFaith-Driven Success and Leadership\u201d<\/p>\n<p>39:48 Post-Abortion Support and Encouragement<\/p>\n<p>42:49 Forgiveness Journey and Healing Resources<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Connect with Robin!<\/strong><\/h2>\n<p>You can connect with Robin at <a href=\"https:\/\/robingerblick.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">robingerblick.com<\/a> where you\u2019ll find her book, social media links, the Exodus Women\u2019s Retreat, and more! She\u2019d love to hear from you and continue the conversation!<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">What Threatens to Steal Your Joy?<\/h2>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter is-resized\"><a href=\"https:\/\/dorisswift.com\/book\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1511\" height=\"1601\" data-attachment-id=\"41725\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/dorisswift.com\/2023\/10\/03\/the-power-of-scripture-inspired-prayer-with-brooke-mcglothlin-of-million-praying-moms\/img_8449-2\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/dorisswift.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/IMG_8449.jpg?fit=1511%2C1601&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1511,1601\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"IMG_8449\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/dorisswift.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/IMG_8449.jpg?fit=283%2C300&amp;ssl=1\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/dorisswift.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/IMG_8449.jpg?fit=644%2C682&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/dorisswift.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/IMG_8449.jpg?resize=644%2C682&amp;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-41725\" style=\"width:330px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/dorisswift.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/IMG_8449.jpg?w=1511&amp;ssl=1 1511w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/dorisswift.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/IMG_8449.jpg?resize=283%2C300&amp;ssl=1 283w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/dorisswift.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/IMG_8449.jpg?resize=644%2C682&amp;ssl=1 644w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/dorisswift.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/IMG_8449.jpg?resize=768%2C814&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/dorisswift.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/IMG_8449.jpg?resize=1450%2C1536&amp;ssl=1 1450w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/dorisswift.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/IMG_8449.jpg?resize=610%2C646&amp;ssl=1 610w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/dorisswift.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/IMG_8449.jpg?resize=1080%2C1144&amp;ssl=1 1080w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/dorisswift.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/IMG_8449.jpg?resize=1280%2C1356&amp;ssl=1 1280w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/dorisswift.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/IMG_8449.jpg?resize=980%2C1038&amp;ssl=1 980w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/dorisswift.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/IMG_8449.jpg?resize=480%2C509&amp;ssl=1 480w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1080px) 100vw, 1080px\"\/><\/a><\/figure>\n<p>Check out Surrender the Joy Stealers: Rediscover the Jesus Joy in You 6-week Bible study rooted in John 15. You can find more info at\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/dorisswift.com\/book\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">https:\/\/dorisswift.com\/book\/<\/a><\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter is-resized\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Surrender-Joy-Stealers-Rediscover-Jesus\/dp\/1649499248\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><img decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"41954\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/dorisswift.com\/2024\/06\/04\/detoured-and-disrupted-finding-gods-peace-in-our-unexpected-journeys-with-jen-babakhan\/now-available-100-x-100-px-instagram-post-square\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/dorisswift.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/Now-Available-100-%C3%97-100-px-Instagram-Post-Square.png?fit=1080%2C1080&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1080,1080\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Now-Available-100-\u00d7-100-px-Instagram-Post-Square\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/dorisswift.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/Now-Available-100-%C3%97-100-px-Instagram-Post-Square.png?fit=300%2C300&amp;ssl=1\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/dorisswift.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/Now-Available-100-%C3%97-100-px-Instagram-Post-Square.png?fit=644%2C644&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/dorisswift.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/Now-Available-100-%C3%97-100-px-Instagram-Post-Square.png?resize=644%2C644&amp;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-41954\" style=\"width:347px;height:auto\"\/><\/a><\/figure>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Let\u2019s Stay Connected!<\/h2>\n<p>Find my free resources including Fear Fighting Bible Verses, Simple Tips for Sharing Your Faith, Surrender the Joy Stealers,\u00a0<em>Step Out of Your Doubt and Into Your Calling ebook<\/em>, and more on my dorisswift.com\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/dorisswift.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">homepage<\/a>!<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Love Fierce Calling?<\/h2>\n<p><strong>Did you know that following, rating, and leaving a review over at<\/strong>\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.podchaser.com\/podcasts\/fierce-calling-940415?utm_source=podcaster&amp;utm_medium=feedcta&amp;utm_campaign=DorisSwift\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Podchaser<\/a>\u00a0<strong>or Apple Podcasts helps others discover the show too<\/strong>? I would so appreciate it, friend!<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Need a Speaker for Your Next Women\u2019s Event? Now Booking for fall\/winter 2025 &amp; 2026!<\/h2>\n<p>Check out my\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/dorisswift.com\/speaking\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">speaking page,<\/a>\u00a0grab my flyer, and let\u2019s talk about me speaking at your next women\u2019s event\u2026<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter is-resized\"><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/dorisswift.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/IMG_9742-2.jpg?ssl=1\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"640\" height=\"554\" data-attachment-id=\"41703\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/dorisswift.com\/2023\/09\/05\/living-fiercely-lessons-on-mentoring-ministering-and-embracing-a-life-without-regrets-with-rhonda-stoppe\/img_9742-2\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/dorisswift.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/IMG_9742-2.jpg?fit=640%2C554&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"640,554\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"IMG_9742-2\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/dorisswift.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/IMG_9742-2.jpg?fit=300%2C260&amp;ssl=1\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/dorisswift.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/IMG_9742-2.jpg?fit=640%2C554&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/dorisswift.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/IMG_9742-2.jpg?resize=640%2C554&amp;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-41703\" style=\"width:412px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/dorisswift.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/IMG_9742-2.jpg?w=640&amp;ssl=1 640w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/dorisswift.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/IMG_9742-2.jpg?resize=300%2C260&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/dorisswift.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/IMG_9742-2.jpg?resize=610%2C528&amp;ssl=1 610w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/dorisswift.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/IMG_9742-2.jpg?resize=480%2C416&amp;ssl=1 480w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\"\/><\/a><\/figure>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Thanks for Listening!<\/h2>\n<p>I hope this episode encouraged, inspired, and challenged you to cultivate community, live and walk in the value and worth God gave you, and take action where your passion, compassion, and conviction intersect. <\/p>\n<p>If you\u2019re looking for a speaker for your next women\u2019s conference, retreat, luncheon, or workshop, reach out and connect with me on my speaker page at <em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.womenspeakers.com\/florida\/edgewater\/speaker\/doris-swift\">https:\/\/www.womenspeakers.com\/florida\/edgewater\/speaker\/doris-swift<\/a><\/em> <\/p>\n<p>Let\u2019s have a chat about your next event!<\/p>\n<p>Stay tuned for more amazing content and remember to check the show notes for all the links mentioned.<\/p>\n<p>Thank you for being a part of our community. We are grateful for your continued support and encourage you to embrace the unique gifts that make you magnificently you.<\/p>\n<p>I hope you\u2019ll join me next time when I talk with another guest who is taking action where her passion, compassion, and conviction intersect \u2026<\/p>\n<p>Until then friend, have a blessed week, and I\u2019ll talk to you soon.<\/p>\n<p>With love and joy, <\/p>\n<p>Doris<\/p>\n<p>P.S. Don\u2019t forget to follow us on social media for bite-sized wisdom and inspiration from Doris and our incredible guests! \ud83d\udcf2<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Transcript<\/h2>\n<p>Doris Swift [00:01:53]:<br \/>What is threatening to steal your joy? What is it that feels so heavy right now that you could barely stand? God has a plan, and his plan is to surrender it. Surrender it to him. It might be a prodigal. It might be a relationship, a marriage, something with your job. So many things. We have so many amazing blessings, but there are so many things in our life that threaten to steal our joy. I\u2019m Dora Swift, author of the award winning six week bible study, Surrender the Joy Stealers Rediscover the Jesus Joy in You, And it helps women rediscover the overflowing, ever present Jesus joy within that fills, empowers, and ripens the fruit that God produces in our lives. Using personal and biblical stories, I share how you can identify your joy stealers, surrender them to God, reawaken the joy within, and share the joy with others.<\/p>\n<p>Doris Swift [00:02:56]:<br \/>You can do it on your own or with a group. Check it out, friends. Surrender the Joy Stealers. Rediscover the Jesus joy in you. It\u2019s available on all the online retailers. It\u2019s time to take your joy back. Welcome back to the show. Today, I\u2019m excited to introduce to you my friend, Robin Gerblick.<\/p>\n<p>Doris Swift [00:03:17]:<br \/>She is an award winning author. She\u2019s a biblical life coach, a certified personal trainer, and Pilates instructor. Hello. I\u2019m impressed with that. I need more of that in my life. And I just love that she\u2019s a lover of life and the living water. That\u2019s amazing. And she has so many things going on, wonderful ministry work that she does.<\/p>\n<p>Doris Swift [00:03:40]:<br \/>She has, a retreat, the Exodus Women\u2019s Retreat, and we\u2019re also gonna talk about her book, Giving Up Grace, a Spiritual Rebranding of the Soul. And you\u2019re gonna wanna hear all about that. And I would love if you would share a little bit more about yourself, Robin. Welcome to the show.<\/p>\n<p>Robin Gerblick [00:04:01]:<br \/>Thanks so much, Doris. I\u2019ve been looking forward to this. We\u2019ve we\u2019ve had a few schedule changes, and I\u2019m excited excited to be here. So thanks.<\/p>\n<p>Doris Swift [00:04:10]:<br \/>Thank you. And, yeah. So you are married to your best friend, which I love, and, and you go between a couple of different states. We were talking earlier, Arizona and Idaho. Right. So those of you who are listening, I know I have some listeners in those states. So, Robin, I would love if you would share a little bit about your story, however the Lord leads you, and how you\u2019re taking action where your passion, compassion, and conviction intersect.<\/p>\n<p>Robin Gerblick [00:04:39]:<br \/>Yeah. That\u2019s perfect. As we were talking about about earlier, I I just love that because that\u2019s how how God uses us, and he calls us. And I love the scripture that you that you use, in your notes. It\u2019s I\u2019m gonna remind myself, but I think it\u2019s the Ephesians three twenty. And I just love that because God is able to do so much more than we could ever possibly imagine and all the glory to him. But what I really love is it\u2019s never too late to use your story. You know? God can always use it.<\/p>\n<p>Robin Gerblick [00:05:17]:<br \/>And I I think for me, I always felt like I was late to the party. I\u2019m a lot older than people think, and I just I just think it took me so long to well, it took me a really long time to find Jesus, number one, and then to find healing for my, my abortion journey that I had, my inability to have children because of that. It it just took so long that I I felt like like, god, are you ever gonna once I found Jesus, I\u2019m like, are you ever gonna use me? It\u2019s like it just seemed to go on forever. But, yeah, my story is is hard, and, I have these three words that describe it. So there it\u2019s real, raw, and redeemed. And I know my life was just so upside down and hard when I was younger, but that started with an abortion when I was 19. And and I truly thought I was gonna marry that guy and have, you know, the family, the white picket fence, the station wagon, the 2.5 children, but that, it didn\u2019t play out that that way at all. He he didn\u2019t want anything to do with me.<\/p>\n<p>Robin Gerblick [00:06:35]:<br \/>And, so that sort of started my what I called my forty year wandering in the desert like the like the Israelites, you know, searching for manna and living water and anything really that would fill the the spot that Jesus was meant to fill. But when you don\u2019t know Jesus, you can go in a lot of a lot of different directions, which is what I did. And, you know, I I I wanna say I don\u2019t have any regrets because God does use every bit of our story for his good and his glory. And if I had it to do over again, I well, there are certain things that I definitely would do differently. But, but what he\u2019s given me now on the end of the redemption side is just so so amazing. And I think that\u2019s where our our passion and compassion and conviction collide.<\/p>\n<p>Doris Swift [00:07:37]:<br \/>Yeah. So true. And I love your your words, real raw redeemed. It\u2019s just something that is is a powerful statement, and I know that a lot of us can really relate to that and how you talked about a forty year wandering. So things started to really spiral in your life when you were 19 then, and things didn\u2019t look quite the way you thought they were gonna look, which oftentimes in our life, things happen and it\u2019s not what we would have planned. And we might say, this is not my story, God. What, you know, what is this all about? But what was the circumstance at the time when you, you know, found yourself pregnant and was it something that others in your life were encouraging you to do? Or how how was it back then as a 19 year old girl?<\/p>\n<p>Robin Gerblick [00:08:35]:<br \/>Yeah. And back then, when we\u2019re talking, was, like, nineteen seventy three. So that was just when, you know, Roe v Wade was coming on the scene, and I was also on birth control when I got pregnant, which is a big misconception that a lot of people have and that the abortion industry would love to, you know, think have you think otherwise. But but, really, there\u2019s quite a few women that do get pregnant on birth control. So you think you\u2019re doing the right thing and and really you\u2019re not. And I didn\u2019t everyone, including my parents, wanted abortion for me. I didn\u2019t know what I wanted because I was too young, too immature. I I I was just scared.<\/p>\n<p>Robin Gerblick [00:09:27]:<br \/>You know? I was really scared. I just saw I was in just started college. I I saw everything going away, you know, all the dreams, all the goals, everything. And, again, you know, I didn\u2019t I didn\u2019t know Jesus, so there was a huge component missing in in all the decision making and and really what my heart would have wanted. And it\u2019s funny because now I call myself this will bug you, but I call myself, pro choice because always have to say because. Right? But because women do have a choice. You know, we can choose to have our babies, or we can choose to give them up for adoption. And so my regret would be that I that I didn\u2019t have my baby and give it up for adoption because today, I would know my child.<\/p>\n<p>Robin Gerblick [00:10:23]:<br \/>And so, you know, that is a that is a choice. So women that think, you know, that they don\u2019t have a choice, they really do. And and so I I had no counseling. There was no, well, let\u2019s just say there was no compassion. Right? There was there was no no compassion for anything that I was going through. It was just like you\u2019re gonna you\u2019re gonna do this. This is the way it\u2019s going, and that\u2019s it. And that really was it.<\/p>\n<p>Robin Gerblick [00:10:53]:<br \/>Mhmm. So that, excuse me, you know, did start my my forty years of wandering. And, you know, that led really of women in my generation that, you know, we were sort of the free love generation growing up anyway. So it led to a lot of, a lot of failed relationships with men, failed marriages where I felt like sex equated to love and love equated to sex. They were one and the same. And, of course, now today, we know they\u2019re not. Right? But but back then, you know, it was all I could think about. If if a man paid attention to me and wanted to have sex with me, then, okay, that\u2019s good for me.<\/p>\n<p>Robin Gerblick [00:11:39]:<br \/>Right? That means he must love me, not understanding the love of my heavenly father and and how he loves me as his daughter. That that didn\u2019t come into the equation back then.<\/p>\n<p>Doris Swift [00:11:53]:<br \/>Yeah. And because at that time, because you didn\u2019t know Jesus and you didn\u2019t really know everything that was true really about you, you know, who you really were. Your your true identity, you didn\u2019t really know that at the time. And so, yeah, equating sex to love and just to feel wanted by someone, you know, wanted Yes. In that way, wanted it all, you know, and to just walk the path that just continually brought the destruction of where that was taking you. So when you found Jesus, like, what was going on in your life right before you met him? Because usually there\u2019s something interesting right before we meet Jesus in our life. So what was going on in your life, Robin, when that was<\/p>\n<p>Robin Gerblick [00:12:43]:<br \/>Yeah.<\/p>\n<p>Doris Swift [00:12:43]:<br \/>Was almost, you know, when you made that that decision?<\/p>\n<p>Robin Gerblick [00:12:48]:<br \/>That\u2019s so true. And it, it really was a divine appointment with with God because I was I was in a place of sheer desperation, really. And my grandmother talked about an event. Yes. My grandmother had just passed away. And at the time, I was dating a guy who great guy, but he had custody of his four children. And so me wanting children and not being able to have children, you know, I thought, oh, this is the perfect relationship. But as I was realizing, I I can\u2019t have a perfect relationship until I have a relationship with Jesus first, which is the direction he was leading me, but I just hadn\u2019t recognized it yet.<\/p>\n<p>Robin Gerblick [00:13:32]:<br \/>So I had all this stuff, you know, going on in my head and in my heart, and I I just I took a walk down below where I lived, and we have a a beautiful, like, stream or river down there. And I just sat on a rock, and I cried out to god literally. I I I I just said I can\u2019t I can\u2019t do it. I can\u2019t do life like this anymore. It\u2019s just not working for me, and I need help. I need help. So I was crying out to the god that I didn\u2019t know, not knowing that he would answer me, and he did. Wow.<\/p>\n<p>Robin Gerblick [00:14:09]:<br \/>And he answered it. Oh, I did. He, you know, he gave me this, lightning bolt experience that was you know, in our in our culture, you know, we believe that seeing is believing. But that day on the river, I found out that believing is truly seeing because he gave me all five senses in in the in the sensory experience that was supernatural, where I could I could see my life laid in front of me. And I could see the the man that I was with and his four children, and god was very, very clear. This is not the one. I\u2019m the one. I\u2019m the one.<\/p>\n<p>Robin Gerblick [00:14:50]:<br \/>And until you figure that out, there\u2019s not gonna be the one. It\u2019s gonna be me. And so<\/p>\n<p>Doris Swift [00:14:57]:<br \/>have. Yeah.<\/p>\n<p>Robin Gerblick [00:14:58]:<br \/>It was it was a huge, a huge thing. I mean, I I ran back up the hill to my house. I called I called that guy, and I said, you\u2019re a great guy. I love you. I\u2019m you\u2019re a a great friend. I love your children, but I can\u2019t be with you. I I mean, like, it ended that quickly. And probably within, you know, like, a few weeks, god brought me the my best friend, the man I\u2019m married to now of thirty two years this year.<\/p>\n<p>Robin Gerblick [00:15:31]:<br \/>And, you know, god, he had this all all planned out ahead of time, and all I needed to do was receive. I needed to receive Yeah. His grace. But, there\u2019s if you if you don\u2019t mind, this might go a little off off where we\u2019re talking right now. But but the reason that the book is called what it is is really because it all came back to that moment on the river. And god you know, talk about passion and conviction and all of that, but god gave me the whole vision of the book ten years before I ever actually published it. But but the name giving up grace, people, you know, they ask about that a a lot because they\u2019re like, what do you mean giving up peace? Why would you give up? You know, god you know, they just assume god\u2019s grace, and it is part of god\u2019s grace. But I said, well, sometimes you need to be lost in order to be found.<\/p>\n<p>Robin Gerblick [00:16:39]:<br \/>And sometimes, you need to give up the grace that you don\u2019t know in order to get the grace that you really need. And in my case, I gave up my unborn daughter, Grace, in order to receive God\u2019s grace. That was how he he had it planned all all along. Mhmm. And the spiritual rebranding of the soul came it it didn\u2019t, I can say it didn\u2019t come exactly that day because my now husband and I found Jesus together, our relationship with Jesus. Jesus came into my life that that day. But but what happened during that is a spiritual rebranding is what happens to us when we find Jesus. You know, we all of a sudden are a new creation.<\/p>\n<p>Robin Gerblick [00:17:27]:<br \/>The old things have passed and the new is here. And that\u2019s what he did to me. He just rebranded my my soul, and I\u2019m a new creation in Christ. And then it\u2019s like once all of that came to be, then my husband, my now husband and I, you know, it was just such a beautiful divine just a divine moment.<\/p>\n<p>Doris Swift [00:17:54]:<br \/>Wow. That there is so much to unpack right there, you know, with all that you had just shared. It\u2019s amazing. And I love how you said believing is seeing because that makes so much sense. And just the things how kind of God just put on your heart, the person you weren\u2019t with wasn\u2019t the right person, you know, for you to marry. You know, that wasn\u2019t the one you were meant to be with. And so when we seek the Lord first, we can trust that we\u2019re not gonna miss what he has for us. Like, if we try to do things on our own and we don\u2019t go to him, or maybe we might not know him yet, and maybe someone who\u2019s listening right now is listening because there was something in your story they needed to hear.<\/p>\n<p>Doris Swift [00:18:51]:<br \/>And I love the fact that this happened in front, like, sitting by a river. What a beautiful place. You know, when we\u2019re outside and we we just can see all the beautiful things that God created. So we can\u2019t deny there is a creator because of all the beautiful creations and you\u2019re out there and you\u2019re by the water. You know, it didn\u2019t have to happen in some, like, conference or church service. You know, it was something personal between you and the Lord and that you were humble to ask for help. And, really, that\u2019s all it takes, you know, for us to just say, Lord, I need you. And it\u2019s like, you know, he\u2019s probably like, well, it\u2019s about time.<\/p>\n<p>Doris Swift [00:19:37]:<br \/>You know, you realized. But but you believed there was a god. Right? So you knew I mean, you weren\u2019t sure who you were talking to, but you always had believed there was a god, or how were you kinda brought up? Was that something that you had always always believed?<\/p>\n<p>Robin Gerblick [00:19:52]:<br \/>Right. No. It wasn\u2019t. So I I did not grow up in a Christian home. My parents were wonderful. I had, you know, just a great a great childhood, but we didn\u2019t we didn\u2019t go to church. We were called the CEOs, Christmas and Easter only. And so that was my<\/p>\n<p>Doris Swift [00:20:13]:<br \/>Or the creaster.<\/p>\n<p>Robin Gerblick [00:20:14]:<br \/>Yeah. There we go. But, yeah, that was my my introduction, I guess, to religion. And when I was in junior high, I did attend, youth group for a while. But but what I saw there and I don\u2019t, you know, I don\u2019t know. This was just my young perception of it, but it seemed so hypocritical at the time where where I\u2019d see people that were that were being Christ like during on Sunday, let\u2019s say. But then during the week, they were completely different and not living what they said they were living on Sunday. And so it I I don\u2019t know.<\/p>\n<p>Robin Gerblick [00:20:56]:<br \/>I had a lot of disillusionment there, so I quit going. But but I always believed that there was a god, and and in the book, I talk I talk a lot about that, about growing up and how god was present during all stages of of my life. It\u2019s just that I didn\u2019t recognize it. You know, he has so many characteristics of of his grace that manifested themselves throughout my life. And I just, my eyes weren\u2019t open until the day on the river. And then there were so many incredible incredible supernatural events that that god just, you know, like, you are gonna know that I am who I say I am. Right? I\u2019m I\u2019m gonna show you.<\/p>\n<p>Doris Swift [00:21:47]:<br \/>Yeah. And you just and you asked. You were like, please, Lord, you know, help me. Yeah. And you like you said, you were at a point of desperation, and sometimes that\u2019s what it takes to be at that point and to experience that very warm, loving, powerful presence of God. Because there\u2019s so many that might go through life just kind of complacent.<\/p>\n<p>Robin Gerblick [00:22:11]:<br \/>Mhmm.<\/p>\n<p>Doris Swift [00:22:12]:<br \/>Even believing, you know, knowing Jesus, believing Jesus, but never having, like, some kind of experience like that. And, you know, sometimes it just takes being at the lowest parts of the valley, you know, in the pit, basically, to see, you know, that God is there. And like you said, believing is seeing. And so when you because you were talking talking a lot about what happened after you had had your abortion, so then when did you find out that this caused, a a physical issue with you not being able to have children? That was that was the the cause of that?<\/p>\n<p>Robin Gerblick [00:22:52]:<br \/>Mhmm. Yes. And, unfortunately, in the abortion that I had when I was 19, while it was my first, it wasn\u2019t the last. And so I I have been married, three times before with my now husband. And so during those relationships, even though they were not, good, I I call them there were so many spiritual red flags. But, again, prior to that, I didn\u2019t I didn\u2019t know Jesus. And so, all of these things came up, but in my heart, I still wanted to have children. And so as my life progressed with these relationships in, going through infertility treatments and things like that, come to find out that there was just too much damage from the abortion, which is another kind of a a lie that we hear from the abortion industry is that, you know, they\u2019ll say, oh, yeah.<\/p>\n<p>Robin Gerblick [00:23:51]:<br \/>You can have multiple abortions and still get pregnant, which is true. But but they\u2019re not telling you the other part is that there are serious consequences, physically, mentally, emotionally, all of that that that take place and may not take place right away afterwards. But Yeah. But as you as you live out your life and you start feeling the the emptiness or the bitterness spirit or spirit of offense or spirit of unforgiveness arising in yourself, you have to ask yourself, what is it that\u2019s manifesting in my life that\u2019s causing all of this? So I I went through all of that, but but through that, I found out that I couldn\u2019t have children. There was just too much, damage done.<\/p>\n<p>Doris Swift [00:24:41]:<br \/>Yeah. And as you were talking, because I, you know, I was thinking back, I volunteered several years at a faith based pregnancy center, a crisis pregnancy center, you know, where and it you know, it\u2019s still, a ministry that I support today, and women can come in and get a free pregnancy test and, you know, and and there were a lot and still are, of course, women who come in who come in abortion minded and not really understanding or knowing all the facts and all the information that they really need in order to make, you know, an informed decision about that. And I you know, if and if you go to, you know, planned parenthood or something, they\u2019re not gonna tell you that side of the story at all. And so, and we did have also and it\u2019s still you know, the pregnancy centers do have the abortion recovery because statistically, if you\u2019re in a room with, I don\u2019t know, so many women, I I think it\u2019s one out of every four. It might be one out of every three or two now that have experienced that in their life. And to be able to go forward for with the healing and to know that they can be forgiven and set free. And and part of that program at the end is to name your child. And you talk about your baby girl, Grace.<\/p>\n<p>Doris Swift [00:26:08]:<br \/>Right? Yeah. Tell us how you came up with how did that happen with naming her?<\/p>\n<p>Robin Gerblick [00:26:13]:<br \/>Yeah. That was, it\u2019s such a good story. This is, you know, fast forward, you know, years later because I\u2019m I\u2019m now married to my wonderful husband, Jim. And and, I was speaking, for a woman\u2019s group in Portland, Oregon, and there was, the director of the crisis pregnancy center was in the in the audience, and she asked if I\u2019d like to come back to her. They just redone or redecorated. And I said, oh, sure. Yeah. I\u2019ll I\u2019ll love to come.<\/p>\n<p>Robin Gerblick [00:26:44]:<br \/>Love to see it. So I walk in the door, and on the wall, there\u2019s this chart of baby fetuses and all their stages of development. And I just lost it because I\u2019ve never seen that before because I nobody ever gave me any counseling. I never got I mean, I it just I I literally just lost it in in her office and started crying uncontrollably. And she came and put her arms around me and said, honey, have you not have you not ever addressed your abortion and the grief and the trauma? Because it is trauma, and we have a certain amount of PTSD that that follows that that, you know, people may or may not acknowledge, but I hadn\u2019t acknowledged it until that moment. And she took me in her office, took me under her wing. We were there for over two hours, and she counseled me and walked me through the different, the different stages that that we go through, you know, from from like, first of all, do I even need healing to to relief? Oh, great. I got it done.<\/p>\n<p>Robin Gerblick [00:27:59]:<br \/>You know, now I don\u2019t have to worry about it. I can get on with my life to denial. Oh, really wasn\u2019t a baby. It was just a clump of cells, you know, to the anger, to the bitterness, to the forgiveness, all all the stages. And so she\u2019s the one that suggested. She goes, well, have you named your child, your unborn child? And I said, no. That I mean, that would have never occurred to me. But that day, that then and there, I I named her Grace because really no other name would do.<\/p>\n<p>Robin Gerblick [00:28:33]:<br \/>And Beautiful. And and then beyond that, when I left, when I at the time, I thought, oh, it was kinda creepy in a way that she gave me a a baby fetus doll of 10 because that was how far along I was when I aborted the first time. And the first time was so different than the second time, but, but she gave me this little doll. And for years, I didn\u2019t know what to do with with the little doll. However, once that healing process started, I took Grace, and I have this beautiful, beautiful box that she\u2019s in. And she lies on a a bed of cotton, And she\u2019s surrounded by all the things that would have saved her life and would have saved my life had I known. There\u2019s my mother\u2019s cross, my grandmother\u2019s cross, letters that I have written to her. There\u2019s a rock in there that you know, heart shaped rock that has her name Grace on it.<\/p>\n<p>Robin Gerblick [00:29:40]:<br \/>Just all of these things that, you know, like I said, that would have saved her life and would have saved my life. But interestingly enough, last year, I just started taking Grace with me on speaking engagements. And I want Yeah. Yeah. I want people to see the the evidence of of a redeemed life and that there\u2019s hope no matter no matter what you\u2019ve gone through. And I love there\u2019s a if I can find it. There\u2019s there\u2019s a a quote that I that I just love, and I\u2019ve I\u2019ve come across this fairly recently, but it it\u2019s so it\u2019s so perfect for this. But it\u2019s by, author Tim Timothy Keller, Walking with God through Pain and Suffering.<\/p>\n<p>Robin Gerblick [00:30:33]:<br \/>But he says the idea that there is nothing in the human experience that God himself has not suffered even losing a child. I mean, when you when you think about, you know, like, all the things that we\u2019ve gone through and and abortion, obviously, is just one, you know, one teeny thing. But but when we realize that that god and Jesus have walked through, there isn\u2019t anything they haven\u2019t walked through that we walk through or potentially walk through. And how Yes. How beautiful and sustaining is that for us, for our hope, you know, our hope in Jesus and for understanding his grace. That\u2019s that\u2019s his grace. He I mean, he showered me with his grace, which is why I had to write a book, talk about conviction. He said, you\u2019re gonna write your story.<\/p>\n<p>Robin Gerblick [00:31:32]:<br \/>Well, I don\u2019t really wanna write my story. Well, guess what? You\u2019re gonna be obedient. You\u2019re gonna write your story. And now my life is like an open book. It is an open book. So<\/p>\n<p>Doris Swift [00:31:43]:<br \/>Yeah. Wow. Beautiful. How, you know, the just the the picture in our minds of being showered grace upon grace and then writing that book to give him glory and share your story. Because it\u2019s when the time is right and when God calls us to share our story, it\u2019s it\u2019s vulnerable, you know, for people to do that. But when we see and we know that the the word tells us that we can encourage others and comfort others through things because we have been through them and comforted by the comforter. And someone recently had had said, I think it was Abby McDonald we were talking, and you need comfort because you\u2019ve gone through something. So if you don\u2019t if you don\u2019t go through anything, which life you know, of course, Jesus said in this world, we would have trouble to take heart.<\/p>\n<p>Doris Swift [00:32:41]:<br \/>He\u2019s overcome the world. But if we didn\u2019t have a need for a comforter, we would never be comforted and know what that means. And then to be able to use our story of where we\u2019ve been to comfort others and bring that hope to others, which is what you\u2019re doing with your ministry. And and you have this also this retreat. And so how did that come about?<\/p>\n<p>Robin Gerblick [00:33:07]:<br \/>Yeah. And that\u2019s that\u2019s totally, a god a god thing too. And back when, I used to be a competitive, bicycle rider, a long distance bicycle rider. And I went to a bike racing camp in in Napa Valley in the hopes of getting a job with this woman that put on these, bike racing retreats, camps, whatever. And that was the reason that I went there. And one of the one of the exercises that we did there was finding your heart\u2019s desire. And prior to that, I have to backtrack on that, we had the first day of riding. It was it was record heat in Napa Valley, and it was, like, a hundred and five.<\/p>\n<p>Robin Gerblick [00:34:02]:<br \/>And our first ride was up this ridiculous hill, hill climbing, like, right out of the gate. And I just I just bonked. I mean, literally, I bonked. I had to have the support van come and get me. I had heat stroke. I it was terrible. It was terrible. So I never got to do I never got to do any more riding on the five day five day retreat.<\/p>\n<p>Robin Gerblick [00:34:25]:<br \/>But I did go and do her exercise of the heart\u2019s desire, which I found was, kind of a little bit of hocus pocus. You know, it wasn\u2019t it wasn\u2019t my belief system. It was, you know, more of a universal and kind of<\/p>\n<p>Doris Swift [00:34:43]:<br \/>Kinda like new age type thing.<\/p>\n<p>Robin Gerblick [00:34:45]:<br \/>Kind of yeah. Like new age y thing. And and I just thought, okay. Well, I can I can ignore that part? I can still try to figure out what my heart\u2019s desire is. And through the exercise, I found that my heart\u2019s desire was leading women to Christ in a wilderness place just like the Israelites were in the desert. And and so during that exercise, she came up to me and she says, you know, Robin, she said, I I, I don\u2019t really see you as a fit for our our company. She said, but what I do see is you starting your own retreat organization and leading women, you know, as you see god leading you. And and she said, but you should go home and make a vision board and, you know, have her you do it.<\/p>\n<p>Robin Gerblick [00:35:40]:<br \/>You know, pray to your God. And so I\u2019m like, that\u2019s a great idea. So so I did, and and God just showed up big time. And, again, he gave me the name, and he said, you need to call it Exodus. And I\u2019m like, oh, okay. And so, you know, I thought that\u2019s a great name. Second book of the Bible. Okay.<\/p>\n<p>Robin Gerblick [00:36:02]:<br \/>I\u2019ll take it. And and so the that started. And in this this year, we celebrate our twentieth year of Exodus women\u2019s retreats. Wow. Twenty years.<\/p>\n<p>Doris Swift [00:36:16]:<br \/>That\u2019s awesome.<\/p>\n<p>Robin Gerblick [00:36:17]:<br \/>And and it\u2019s<\/p>\n<p>Doris Swift [00:36:18]:<br \/>Twenty years. Mhmm.<\/p>\n<p>Robin Gerblick [00:36:20]:<br \/>Yeah. It started out, you know, very, very slow, and and I have to say I was, you know, discouraged in the beginning. We weren\u2019t associated with any church. We were just associated with Jesus. And and I thought, oh, this will be a piece of cake. I\u2019ll just go and talk to women\u2019s ministry directors. They\u2019ll love it, and they\u2019ll sign their girls up. Well, that that didn\u2019t happen because they didn\u2019t know me from from Adam, and they didn\u2019t know what my spiritual beliefs and convictions were.<\/p>\n<p>Robin Gerblick [00:36:51]:<br \/>And it took me a a few years to understand that. And then once we got a website and started going online and people could find us, it just it really, really took off to where it it\u2019s just in incredible now, and we keep asking ourselves, like like, when are we gonna when are we gonna retire? You know? Because I still have some of the same team members that I started with twenty years ago. But god\u2019s not done with us yet. And I\u2019m telling you, this my team talked about, you know, passion and and the whole conviction thing. And it it like, the first year that we did the retreat, we were super small and nothing like how it is right now. But, but the second year of the retreat, I heard god say loud and clear. Right? He said, how do you expect to be the leader of Exodus if you\u2019ve never read the book of Exodus? Oh, yeah. That was like a you know, when like I said, when he shows up, you know, he he can show up really big and but it was like he was sitting right next to me and saying, you know, how how do you expect to lead when you don\u2019t you don\u2019t really know the story of Exodus? So I took a year off, and I studied the book of Exodus.<\/p>\n<p>Robin Gerblick [00:38:13]:<br \/>And then I realized, you know, why God gave me the name for it, you know, because it was our it\u2019s our spiritual journey into our wilderness seasons, and everybody has them. Right? And so what better way to get out of your wilderness season is to be in a physical, beautiful wilderness. So the retreats, they\u2019re always done. We always do them on water, some kind of water. Sometimes we have to count a pool as water, but most of the time, we\u2019re we\u2019re in, very remote places that are hard to get to because, what the Israelites went through wasn\u2019t easy. You know? They\u2019re they\u2019re forty years of of wandering. You know? But but, you know, what Moses did was to get away. You know? He he he went out into the wilderness.<\/p>\n<p>Robin Gerblick [00:39:05]:<br \/>He spent three days in the wilderness seeking God and seeking God\u2019s face. And so that\u2019s what we do. It it\u2019s just so cool.<\/p>\n<p>Doris Swift [00:39:14]:<br \/>Wow. That is so beautiful. And I love that you took that year off to study Exodus. You know, how God directed you to it. Because it\u2019s like, once you went through that book and you really, really, like, immersed yourself in that, you know, it it just it would seem would bring so much more meaning to what you were doing, you know, and how it all connected and related and how God gave that to you in the in the first place. So wow. That is really fascinating. I\u2019m so glad that we talked about that.<\/p>\n<p>Doris Swift [00:39:48]:<br \/>And I would love, Robin, if you would share maybe if you have a last, encouraging thing you wanna share with who is listening today because we might have, you know, someone who is listening that is struggling right now. Maybe they are post abortive and just, you know, things are manifesting in their life, things are happening. Because, oftentimes, I\u2019m going through even counseling, because I do lay counseling and all. Just there are so many things that happen in a woman\u2019s life and she may not realize, because I think you kind of alluded to that too. You may not realize that it\u2019s connected to something in your past, which could have been maybe an experience with abortion or, just, you know, the wilderness as it is. You let like you said, there are seasons of wilderness that people go through. And so, if you could just share a word of encouragement right now, maybe one step forward that they can take, and then how the listener can connect with you and find out all about, you know, your book, your ministry, your your coaching, and this amazing retreat.<\/p>\n<p>Robin Gerblick [00:40:56]:<br \/>Well, thank you. Thank you for that opportunity too. But I I think the biggest component, of all of that is is finding forgiveness. Like, we can\u2019t we can\u2019t really move forward until we find forgiveness. And when if you know if you know Jesus, then you know that you\u2019re forgiven by him, but there\u2019s also the component of forgiving ourselves. And so many people, you know, hide under the guilt and shame that, you know, oh, I\u2019m I\u2019m just not good enough. You know, I\u2019m not enough. I hear that all the time.<\/p>\n<p>Robin Gerblick [00:41:34]:<br \/>I\u2019m just not enough. Why would Jesus? Why I mean, you know, maybe he can forgive me, but I, you know, I\u2019ve done so many, you know, horrible things, whatever whatever it is. But but there\u2019s another one of my favorite quotes is by is by author Adam Ramsey, and it says, Jesus is not disillusioned with you because he never had any illusions about who you were in the first place. He<\/p>\n<p>Doris Swift [00:42:02]:<br \/>Wow. Right.<\/p>\n<p>Robin Gerblick [00:42:03]:<br \/>Right? Like, he he created you before before you were even born. He saw you in your mother\u2019s womb. He gets it. He knows you. He knows your heart. And when when I read that, I was like, oh, yeah. Well, why am I putting if Jesus isn\u2019t putting that that kind of thing on me, why am why am I putting it on myself? So, you know, I think whatever whatever it takes for somebody to walk through the the healing of forgiveness, and I\u2019m sure you\u2019ve heard the, you know, the thing is like, unforgiveness is like drinking poison and expecting, you know, the other person to die, but you\u2019re the one drinking the poison. You\u2019re the one that\u2019s poisoning yourself.<\/p>\n<p>Robin Gerblick [00:42:49]:<br \/>And so, you know, I went through and that may be something for another another time, but my whole forgiveness journey is is huge. But, I think women need to know that back when I had my abortion, there there were not the resources out there today that or then that are, available today. And there\u2019s just there\u2019s so many things. You know? Even even our our church, you know, does a a which I\u2019m actually leading right now, a post abortive trauma healing class. And, you know, so I think, you know, church is a great place to to start. You know, there\u2019s a whole Christian counseling network out there where you can find, you know, Christian counselors that that deal with, you know, all kinds of wilderness experiences. And and then just seeking God\u2019s word, you know, because his word is the is the ultimate, you know, the ultimate saving piece of our of our life. And and it allows us to understand the character and the nature of God through his grace and his word.<\/p>\n<p>Doris Swift [00:43:58]:<br \/>Amen. Thank you. That is so encouraging. And I\u2019m sure that someone listening right now really needed to hear that today. And I would love, Robin, if you could share with the listener how they can connect with you, may maybe any resources that you have that you\u2019d love to to share about?<\/p>\n<p>Robin Gerblick [00:44:15]:<br \/>No. I think if they just go to my website, which is, easy. It\u2019s just robingerblick.com. And on the website, the the the book is there. There\u2019s a link that goes to our Exodus Women\u2019s Retreat page. There\u2019s also a resources page, for different organizations that I that I feature, like, each month. So it\u2019s kind of a one stop shopping kinda thing. So that that\u2019s probably the best way to connect.<\/p>\n<p>Robin Gerblick [00:44:48]:<br \/>And if you need prayer, there\u2019s you know, you can just drop me a note, and I\u2019ll be happy to pray for you or whatever your situation is.<\/p>\n<p>Doris Swift [00:44:58]:<br \/>That\u2019s amazing. And I\u2019ll put that in the show notes so the listener can find you. And like you said, it\u2019s easy. Just your name, Robin Gerblig. Yeah. And it\u2019s easy to it\u2019s it\u2019s spelled just how it sounds, so that\u2019s easy. And I would I I really enjoyed our conversation today. It was so great to have you on, and I would love to have you back on sometime because I think there are some things that we could really continue to talk about, and that would be really great.<\/p>\n<p>Doris Swift [00:45:26]:<br \/>Yeah. I would love that.<\/p>\n<p>Robin Gerblick [00:45:28]:<br \/>Yeah. Thank you so much, Doris, for the opportunity. It was my pleasure. I loved it.<\/p>\n<p>Doris Swift [00:45:33]:<br \/>Thank you. And and thank you, friends, for listening today, and I hope you\u2019ll join me next time when I talk with another woman who\u2019s taking action where her passion, compassion, and conviction intersect. 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