{"id":260905,"date":"2025-05-28T02:55:24","date_gmt":"2025-05-28T02:55:24","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/peraltafinancing.com\/business\/real-estate\/industry-relations-podcast-what-to-do-about-zombies\/"},"modified":"2025-05-28T02:55:24","modified_gmt":"2025-05-28T02:55:24","slug":"industry-relations-podcast-what-to-do-about-zombies","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/fivemor.com\/?p=260905","title":{"rendered":"Industry Relations podcast: What to do about Zombies"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Embed Player\" style=\"border:none\" src=\"https:\/\/play.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/35247165\/height\/192\/theme\/modern\/size\/large\/thumbnail\/yes\/custom-color\/1e1c0c\/time-start\/00:00:00\/hide-playlist\/yes\/download\/yes\/font-color\/FFFFFF\" height=\"192\" width=\"100%\" scrolling=\"no\" allowfullscreen=\"\" webkitallowfullscreen=\"true\" mozallowfullscreen=\"true\" oallowfullscreen=\"true\" msallowfullscreen=\"true\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>In this episode of\u00a0<em>Industry Relations<\/em>, Rob and Greg dive into one of the most heated debates yet\u2014was NAR\u2019s fight for survival a necessary battle, or did it do more harm than good? They analyze the fallout from the settlement, discuss the rise of leaders like Michelle Harrington who are ditching corporate-speak for real talk, and debate whether NAR should have surrendered years ago to avoid the lawsuits entirely.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Key Takeaways<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u2022\u00a0<strong>Michelle Harrington\u2019s Blunt Truths<\/strong>: The First Team CEO calls the settlement \u201cbulls***,\u201d and Rob and Greg love her authenticity.<\/p>\n<p>\u2022\u00a0<strong>Corporate-Speak vs. Real Talk<\/strong>: Why real estate leaders should ditch the PR fluff and embrace straight-shooting communication.<\/p>\n<p>\u2022\u00a0<strong>The $2 Billion Club Controversy<\/strong>: Why independent brokerages feel abandoned and how the settlement exposed them to legal threats.<\/p>\n<p>\u2022\u00a0<strong>Should NAR Have Surrendered in 2018?<\/strong>\u00a0Rob argues they could have avoided everything if they had just given in earlier. Greg pushes back.<\/p>\n<p>\u2022\u00a0<strong>Zombie Members or Hostages?<\/strong>\u00a0Rob says NAR fought to protect dues from disengaged agents. Greg insists they were an opportunity, not a liability.<\/p>\n<p>Inman story on FirstTeam CEO, Michelle Harrington; \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/www.inman.com\/2025\/02\/04\/a-broker-left-out-of-nar-settlement-gets-candid-im-still-pissed\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">A broker left out of NAR settlement gets candid: \u2018I\u2019m still pissed&#8217;\u201d<\/a>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Todd Carpenter\u2019s LinkedIn post on\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/posts\/toddwcarpenter_expertise-and-credentials-activity-7293427970113712129-1zOY?utm_source=share&amp;utm_medium=member_desktop&amp;rcm=ACoAAAB1BrMBznGq5mhTiMKnxr-8vPDEpgwVNgo\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">\u201cZombie members vs. Super members\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Rob Substack,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/notoriousrob.substack.com\/p\/between-black-pill-and-white-pill\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">\u201cBetween Black Pill and White Pill\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>Watch Us on\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/@IndustryRelationsPodcast\">YouTube<\/a>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Connect with Rob and Greg:\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/notoriousrob.substack.com\/\">Rob\u2019s Website<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.vendoralley.com\/about-2\/\">Greg\u2019s Website<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Our Sponsors:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.corelogic.com\/\"><strong>CoreLogic<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/notoriousrob.substack.com\/subscribe\"><strong>Notorious VIP<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/vendoralley.jobboard.io\/\"><strong>The Giant Steps Job Board<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>Production and Editing Services by\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/sunboundstudios.com\/\">Sunbound Studios<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<\/p><\/div>\n\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In this episode of\u00a0Industry Relations, Rob and Greg dive into one of the most heated debates yet\u2014was NAR\u2019s fight for survival a necessary battle, or did it do more harm than good? 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