{"id":238088,"date":"2025-05-12T13:26:44","date_gmt":"2025-05-12T13:26:44","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/peraltafinancing.com\/business\/investing\/buffett-indicator-shiller-pe-ratio\/"},"modified":"2025-05-12T13:26:44","modified_gmt":"2025-05-12T13:26:44","slug":"buffett-indicator-shiller-pe-ratio","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/fivemor.com\/?p=238088","title":{"rendered":"Buffett Indicator &#038; Shiller PE Ratio"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div itemprop=\"text\">\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"62604\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/itawealth.com\/buffett-indicator-shiller-pe-ratio\/canyon\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/itawealth.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/Canyon.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"2000,1333\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;Lowell Herr&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1640522031&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;Lowell Herr&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Canyon\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/itawealth.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/Canyon-300x200.jpg\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/itawealth.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/Canyon-1024x682.jpg\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-62604\" src=\"https:\/\/itawealth.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/Canyon.jpg\" alt=\"Buffett Indicator &amp; Shiller PE Ratio 1\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" title=\"Buffett Indicator &amp; Shiller PE Ratio 1\" srcset=\"https:\/\/itawealth.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/Canyon.jpg 2000w, https:\/\/itawealth.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/Canyon-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/itawealth.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/Canyon-1024x682.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/itawealth.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/Canyon-768x512.jpg 768w, https:\/\/itawealth.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/Canyon-1536x1024.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\"\/><\/p>\n<p><em>Canyonland National Park<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Over the last few weeks I\u2019ve been setting Trailing Stop Loss Orders (TSLOs) for VTI, VOO, and SCHG when portfolios holding these securities come up for review.\u00a0 The tariff wars are causing market uncertainty, but tariffs are not the only reason for setting TSLOs.\u00a0 Erratic administration behavior only exacerbates an overbought market.<\/p>\n<p>Yesterday I ran across <span style=\"color: #3366ff;\"><em><strong><a style=\"color: #3366ff;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=XI6BMpKX-W8\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">this YouTube video<\/a><\/strong><\/em><\/span> which aligns with my current thinking regarding the U.S. Stock Market.\u00a0 Avoid the advertisement around the eight minute mark.<\/p>\n<p>A few readers may remember the period from around 1967 through August of 1982.\u00a0 In the mid to late 1960s the Dow Jones Industrial Average (DJIA) topped 1,000 for the first time.\u00a0 In August of 1982 it was below 800.\u00a0 That was a lost 15 years of market growth and not a good time to retire if one needed savings to live.\u00a0 From 2000 to 2012 was another fallow market period.\u00a0 We may well be heading into another such period if we check out the Buffett Indicator and Shiller PE Ratio.\u00a0 These two indicators are among the best long-term data sources when it comes to broad U.S. Equities behavior.\u00a0 Neither is perfect, but none are as the market always behaves in an unpredictable fashion.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><em><strong><a style=\"color: #0000ff;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.longtermtrends.net\/market-cap-to-gdp-the-buffett-indicator\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Buffett Indicator:\u00a0<\/a><\/strong><\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p>Check out the above graph and look for periods around 2000 and 2008 or times when the market took a major hit.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800080;\">\u201cThe Warren Buffett Indicator, also known as the Market Capitalization to GDP ratio, is a valuation metric that compares a country\u2019s total stock market value (market capitalization) to its gross domestic product (GDP). It\u2019s named after the famous investor Warren Buffett, who has used this metric to assess whether the stock market is overvalued or undervalued\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800080;\">\u201cThis ratio fluctuates over time since the value of the stock market can be very volatile, but GDP tends to grow much more predictably. <span class=\"fw-bold text-danger\">The current ratio of 211% is approximately 66.99% (or about 2.2 standard deviations) above the historical trend line<\/span>, suggesting that <span class=\"fw-bold text-danger\">the stock market is Strongly Overvalued<\/span> relative to GDP.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p>The recent GDG is negative, yet the market is moving higher.\u00a0 Don\u2019t expect this to continue.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><em><strong><a style=\"color: #0000ff;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.multpl.com\/shiller-pe\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Shiller PE Ratio<\/a><\/strong><\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #993366;\">\u201c<span class=\"BxUVEf ILfuVd\" lang=\"en\"><span class=\"hgKElc\">The cyclically adjusted price-to-earnings ratio, commonly known as CAPE, Shiller P\/E, or P\/E 10 ratio, is a stock valuation measure usually applied to the US S&amp;P 500 equity market. It is defined as <b>price divided by the average of ten years of earnings (moving average), adjusted for inflation<\/b>.<\/span><\/span>\u201c<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800080;\">\u201cThe CAPE ratio is a valuation measure that uses real <a style=\"color: #800080;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.investopedia.com\/terms\/e\/eps.asp\" data-component=\"link\" data-source=\"inlineLink\" data-type=\"internalLink\" data-ordinal=\"1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">earnings per share (EPS)<\/a> over a 10-year period to smooth out fluctuations in corporate profits that occur over different periods of a <a style=\"color: #800080;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.investopedia.com\/terms\/b\/businesscycle.asp\" data-component=\"link\" data-source=\"inlineLink\" data-type=\"internalLink\" data-ordinal=\"2\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">business cycle<\/a>.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p id=\"mntl-sc-block_4-0\" class=\"comp mntl-sc-block finance-sc-block-html mntl-sc-block-html\"><span style=\"color: #800080;\">\u201cThe CAPE ratio, an acronym for cyclically adjusted price-to-earnings ratio, was popularized by Yale University professor Robert Shiller. It is also known as the Shiller P\/E ratio. The <a style=\"color: #800080;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.investopedia.com\/terms\/p\/price-earningsratio.asp\" data-component=\"link\" data-source=\"inlineLink\" data-type=\"internalLink\" data-ordinal=\"1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">P\/E ratio<\/a> is a valuation metric that measures a stock\u2019s price relative to the company\u2019s earnings per share. EPS is a <a style=\"color: #800080;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.investopedia.com\/terms\/c\/company.asp\" data-component=\"link\" data-source=\"inlineLink\" data-type=\"internalLink\" data-ordinal=\"2\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">company<\/a>\u2019s profit divided by the outstanding equity shares.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p id=\"mntl-sc-block_6-0\" class=\"comp mntl-sc-block finance-sc-block-html mntl-sc-block-html\"><span style=\"color: #800080;\">\u201cThe CAPE ratio is generally applied to broad <a style=\"color: #800080;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.investopedia.com\/terms\/e\/equity.asp\" data-component=\"link\" data-source=\"inlineLink\" data-type=\"internalLink\" data-ordinal=\"1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">equity<\/a> indexes to assess whether the market is undervalued or overvalued. While it is a popular and widely followed measure, several leading <a style=\"color: #800080;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.investopedia.com\/terms\/i\/industry.asp\" data-component=\"link\" data-source=\"inlineLink\" data-type=\"internalLink\" data-ordinal=\"2\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">industry<\/a> practitioners have called into question its utility as a predictor of future stock market returns.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p>I am more familiar with the Shiller PE Ratio than I am with the Buffet Indicator.\u00a0 If an average Shiller Ratio is around 15 to 17 and it is currently bouncing around 35, this is an overbought market.<\/p>\n<p><strong>What To Do?<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>One option is to hold on to current securities, continue to save and place all savings in a short-term treasury such as SHV.\u00a0 If one were to take a tax hit by selling securities, this option makes sense. Build cash reserves and wait for the next buying opportunity.<\/li>\n<li>A second option is the one I am applying to a number of portfolios and that is to set TSLOs on holdings such as VOO, VTI, SCHG and other equity oriented securities.\u00a0 New cash and dividends are reinvested in a short-term treasury ETF.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>I don\u2019t see an overbought market impacting the Sector BPI portfolios or the Robo Advisor account, Copernicus.\u00a0 The Sector BPI portfolios are designed to operate in a volatile market whereas the Copernicus is manage by computer.<\/p>\n<p>Regardless of the investment strategy, now is a good time to continue to save and build up a cash reserve in a short-term treasury such as SHV.\u00a0 Collect the 4% to 5% interest rate and wait for a market draw-down.<\/p>\n<p>Lowell<\/p>\n<p>Comments and Questions are always welcome.<\/p>\n<p>(Visited 55 times, 1 visits today)<\/p>\n<div class=\"sharedaddy sd-block sd-like jetpack-likes-widget-wrapper jetpack-likes-widget-unloaded\" id=\"like-post-wrapper-56068088-62600-6821e4267c958\" data-src=\"https:\/\/widgets.wp.com\/likes\/?ver=14.6#blog_id=56068088&amp;post_id=62600&amp;origin=itawealth.com&amp;obj_id=56068088-62600-6821e4267c958\" data-name=\"like-post-frame-56068088-62600-6821e4267c958\" data-title=\"Like or Reblog\">\n<h3 class=\"sd-title\">Like this:<\/h3>\n<p><span class=\"button\"><span>Like<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"loading\">Loading&#8230;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"sd-text-color\"\/><a class=\"sd-link-color\"\/><\/div>\n<div class=\"wp-block-group has-border-color\" style=\"border-style:none;border-width:0px;margin-top:32px;margin-bottom:32px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-group__inner-container is-layout-flow wp-block-group-is-layout-flow\">\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity is-style-wide\" style=\"margin-bottom:24px\"\/>\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading has-text-align-center\" style=\"margin-top:4px;margin-bottom:10px\">Discover more from ITA Wealth Management<\/h3>\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center\" style=\"margin-top:10px;margin-bottom:10px;font-size:15px\">Subscribe to get the latest posts sent to your email.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Canyonland National Park Over the last few weeks I\u2019ve been setting Trailing Stop Loss Orders (TSLOs) for VTI, VOO, and SCHG when portfolios holding these securities come up for review.\u00a0 The tariff wars are causing market uncertainty, but tariffs are not the only reason for setting TSLOs.\u00a0 Erratic administration behavior only exacerbates an overbought market. 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