{"id":203198,"date":"2025-04-24T18:33:24","date_gmt":"2025-04-24T18:33:24","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/peraltafinancing.com\/business\/finance\/you-win-or-you-die-or-you-just-have-a-normal-retirement\/"},"modified":"2025-04-24T18:33:24","modified_gmt":"2025-04-24T18:33:24","slug":"you-win-or-you-die-or-you-just-have-a-normal-retirement","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/fivemor.com\/?p=203198","title":{"rendered":"You Win or You Die&#8230;or You Just Have a Normal Retirement"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div>\n<div class=\"wp-block-group\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-group__inner-container is-layout-constrained wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\">\n<p><em>Before the article, here\u2019s what\u2019s happening this week on our podcast, <\/em><strong><em>Personal Finance for Long-Term Investors<\/em><\/strong><em>:<\/em><\/p>\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>George R.R. Martin\u2019s epic fantasy saga<span style=\"box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px;\">,\u00a0<\/span><em><strong><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">A Song of Ice and Fire<\/span><\/strong><\/em><span style=\"box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px;\"><em><strong>,<\/strong><\/em>\u00a0started in 1996, with Martin publishing the first three books over five years<\/span>. The books built a cult following thanks to their gritty realism, deep characters, and (let\u2019s be honest) a willingness <span style=\"box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px;\">\u2013<em>\u00a0or even a penchant \u2013<\/em><\/span> to kill off anyone at any time.<\/p>\n<p>Then HBO came calling. In 2011, the <em><strong>Game of Thrones<\/strong><\/em> adaptation turned the books into a global sensation <span style=\"box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px;\">of a TV show, just as Martin published\u00a0<\/span><em><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">A Dance with Dragons<\/span><\/em><span style=\"box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px;\">, the fifth book in<\/span> the saga.<\/p>\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full is-resized\"><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"450\" height=\"416\" src=\"https:\/\/bestinterest.blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/image-26.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-54298\" style=\"width:254px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/bestinterest.blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/image-26.png 450w, https:\/\/bestinterest.blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/image-26-300x277.png 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px\"\/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<p>Since then, though, fans have been (im)patiently waiting for the sixth book, <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><em>The Winds of Winter<\/em>.<\/span> Martin has been working on it for over a decade with no release date in sight. The audience reaction to the delay has ranged from good-natured memes to full-blown despair, especially since the TV show timeline overtook the books\u2019 timeline and ended\u2026controversially. To make matters worse, there\u00a0is supposed to be a\u00a0seventh\u00a0book, <em><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">A Dream of Spring<\/span><\/em>.<\/p>\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"750\" height=\"375\" src=\"https:\/\/bestinterest.blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/image-29.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-54301\" style=\"width:466px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/bestinterest.blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/image-29.png 750w, https:\/\/bestinterest.blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/image-29-300x150.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 750px) 100vw, 750px\"\/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">A <em>seventh<\/em> book?!<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<p>The first five books are hugely popular and highly regarded. <\/p>\n<p>But until Martin, now 76, finishes the series, it will feel imperfect. <\/p>\n<p>How, why, and when should we let <strong>\u201cperfect\u201d<\/strong> interfere with <strong>\u201cgood enough?\u201d <\/strong><\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Social Security Lump Sum?!?! <\/h2>\n<p>Last April, I wrote a surprisingly popular article that suggested retirees could reframe their thinking about Social Security. Instead of a \u201cmeasly income stream,\u201d they could conceptualize it as a meaningful lump sum asset from which they take a monthly withdrawal. <\/p>\n<p><em>Ex: it\u2019s not just \u201c$2500 per month.\u201d It\u2019s a $600,000 lump sum that\u2019s paying you 5% interest! <\/em><\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-wp-embed is-provider-the-best-interest wp-block-embed-the-best-interest\"\/>\n<p>Last week, reader <strong>Bill<\/strong> wrote to me to push back on the entire premise of this article: <\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p><em>\u201cI don\u2019t think you should consider SS as an asset as its an extraneous\/unuseful calculation.\u00a0Instead, determine your portfolio asset allocation by what you need from your \u00a0portfolio and when it\u2019s needed. This uses the expected amounts of guaranteed income. Retirement Planning is complex enough that minmizing the variables involved is sometimes helpful and valuing SS as a lump sum is one variable that is not needed.\u201d \u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Technically speaking, Bill is 100% right. <\/p>\n<p>When I go \u201cbehind the curtain\u201d into a real financial plan, I do <strong>not<\/strong> treat Social Security as a lump sum. I treat it as what it is: an income stream. That income stream is part of someone\u2019s overall cash flow analysis, along with their annual spending, irregular big-ticket spending, proposed Roth conversions, and necessary portfolio withdrawals to balance the budget. <\/p>\n<p>This \u201cCashflow Planning\u201d is a fundamental step in someone\u2019s retirement plan. To then treat Social Security as a \u201clump sum\u201d on someone\u2019s balance sheet would be double-counting. <\/p>\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"655\" src=\"https:\/\/bestinterest.blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/image-25-1024x655.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-54069\" style=\"width:722px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/bestinterest.blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/image-25-1024x655.png 1024w, https:\/\/bestinterest.blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/image-25-300x192.png 300w, https:\/\/bestinterest.blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/image-25-768x491.png 768w, https:\/\/bestinterest.blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/image-25.png 1055w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\"\/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<p>Bill and I shared a few more emails and he wrote: <\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p><em>Some people learn\/understand differently\u2026e.g. they don\u2019t understand the simple math of [income minus expenses], but they get a warm and fuzzy feeling seeing a larger number [as a \u201clump sum\u201d].<\/em><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>I want to focus on this part of Bill\u2019s statement: <strong>\u201cSome people learn \/ understand differently\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Theory of Mind<\/h2>\n<p>YES! YES! YES! Bill hits the nail on the head with a 10-pound hammer. BAM! I love this line, and it\u2019s a fundamental truth that guides my writing, podcasting, and professional work. <\/p>\n<p><strong>Different people learn and understand differently. <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>That is <strong>\u201ctheory of mind\u201d<\/strong> in a nutshell.<em> <\/em>It\u2019s the ability to understand that other people have their own thoughts, feelings, beliefs, and perspectives that may differ from yours. Different people learn and understand differently than you.<\/p>\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"750\" height=\"400\" src=\"https:\/\/bestinterest.blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/image-30.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-54302\" style=\"width:488px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/bestinterest.blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/image-30.png 750w, https:\/\/bestinterest.blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/image-30-300x160.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 750px) 100vw, 750px\"\/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<p>My engineering brain knows where Bill is coming from. His thought process is: <em>\u201cfocus on the math, the numbers, the objective facts, and then optimize.\u201d\u00a0<\/em>And again, when I go \u201cbehind the curtain\u201d to the world of pure financial planning math, that is precisely what we do. <\/p>\n<p>But the vital truth is that many people don\u2019t think like that. They don\u2019t think like me. They might not think like you, either. Different people require different mental models to latch onto, helping them understand and make good choices. And those choices might not be\u00a0<em>perfect<\/em>\u00a0to you or I.<\/p>\n<p>But that\u2019s where we shouldn\u2019t\u00a0<em>\u201cmake\u00a0<strong>perfect\u00a0<\/strong>the enemy of\u00a0<strong>good enough<\/strong>.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n<p>This \u201cSocial Security lump sum\u201d article originated when I was talking to <a href=\"https:\/\/bestinterest.blog\/teachers\/\">a group of teachers<\/a>.\u00a0One of them was expecting ~$2500 per month from Social Security and another $4000 per month from her pension.\u00a0But she \u201conly\u201d had $100,000 saved in her retirement accounts (403b and Roth IRA).<\/p>\n<p>Should a teacher in this scenario feel bad for only having $100,000? Should she be worried? Anxious? Her understanding of retirement planning made her think that she was drastically undersaved.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-rich is-provider-spotify wp-block-embed-spotify wp-embed-aspect-21-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\">\n<p>\n<iframe title=\"Spotify Embed: Why Teachers Need to Be Careful | Dan Otter - E92\" style=\"border-radius: 12px\" width=\"100%\" height=\"152\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"\" allow=\"autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; fullscreen; picture-in-picture\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/embed\/episode\/3WGqiQeWcYxGc82aZV1m4V?go=1&amp;sp_cid=856d0cc7-4ee1-48d7-9580-1126ac557cda&amp;nd=1&amp;dlsi=7a987a283cbf451d&amp;utm_source=oembed\"><\/iframe>\n<\/p>\n<\/figure>\n<p>The problem, as I saw it, was that\u00a0many people focus solely on the assets they can point to on their balance sheet, instead of also understanding the true power of their future fixed income. This teacher didn\u2019t realize that her $6,500 per month of future fixed income is amazing! <\/p>\n<p>So I asked myself: how do we help someone conceptualize their future fixed income in an apples-to-apples way to the assets on their balance sheet?\u00a0The answer is simple. You pretend the fixed monthly income is a lump sum asset that provides monthly income. The only question is what \u201cinterest rate\u201d to assume.<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Imperfect<\/h2>\n<p>This \u201clump sum\u201d approach is not perfect, or at least not perfect for <em>all<\/em> people. But I\u2019d maintain this approach <em>is<\/em> perfect \u2013 or at least <em>better<\/em> \u2013 for a subset of people. This was a better mental model for this teacher, allowing her to conceptualize the true value and power of her fixed monthly income. <\/p>\n<p>While I <em>wish<\/em> I could create the \u201cperfect\u201d financial plan, it\u2019s a bit of a fool\u2019s errand. Just think of a \u201csimple\u201d retirement plan and these variables: <\/p>\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>When will you die? <\/li>\n<li>How will investment markets perform? <\/li>\n<li>How will you spend money? <\/li>\n<li>What will your health (and the healthcare system) look like?<\/li>\n<li>How will tax regimes change? <\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>If you can answer all those questions for the next 30 years, we could get your plan close to perfect. <\/p>\n<p>Instead, we have to design a plan for flexibility. We have to agree, up front, that any decision will make today will be <em>im<\/em>perfect. We <em>know<\/em> we\u2019ll be wrong \u2013 or at least that specific components will be proven wrong in time. That\u2019s ok. It\u2019s infinitely better than having no plan at all. <\/p>\n<p><strong>Game of Thrones<\/strong> character Cersei Lannister famously believed, <em>\u201cWhen you play the game of thrones, you win or you die. There is no middle ground.\u201d<\/em> Perfection or death. Nothing in between. <\/p>\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/bestinterest.blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/image-32.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-54314\" srcset=\"https:\/\/bestinterest.blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/image-32.png 500w, https:\/\/bestinterest.blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/image-32-300x169.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\"\/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<p>Financial planning, thankfully, has a bit more wiggle room. <\/p>\n<p>Thank you for reading! <\/p>\n<p>If you enjoyed this article, join <a href=\"https:\/\/bestinterest.blog\/subscribe\/\"><strong>thousands of subscribers<\/strong><\/a> who read my free weekly email, where I send you links to the smartest financial content I find online every week. 100% free, unsubscribe anytime. <\/p>\n<p><strong>Also<\/strong> \u2013 our podcast <em><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/bestinterest.blog\/personal-finance-for-long-term-investors\/\">\u201cPersonal Finance for Long-Term Investors\u201d<\/a><\/strong><\/em> has grown ~10x over the past couple years, now helping ~10,000 people per month. <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/the-best-interest-personal-finance-for-long-term-investors\/id1553180943\">Tune in and check it out.<\/a>   <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>-Jesse<\/p>\n<p><em>Want to learn more about <strong>The Best Interest\u2019s<\/strong> back story?<\/em> <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/bestinterest.blog\/about\/\">Read here<\/a>.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Was this post worth sharing? 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