{"id":185715,"date":"2025-04-15T07:54:31","date_gmt":"2025-04-15T07:54:31","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/peraltafinancing.com\/business\/legal\/i-can-fix-the-federal-judiciary-a-little\/"},"modified":"2025-04-15T07:54:31","modified_gmt":"2025-04-15T07:54:31","slug":"i-can-fix-the-federal-judiciary-a-little","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/fivemor.com\/?p=185715","title":{"rendered":"I can fix the federal judiciary \u2013 a little"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div>\n<p>by Marc J. Randazza<\/p>\n<p>I hate that the Supreme Court often comes down to a political battle.  I\u2019d like to see it more insulated from the politics of the day.  To that end, <em>stare decisis<\/em>, is a wonderful thing.  But, at the same time, if we elevate <em>stare decisis<\/em> to too exalted of a place, we are saying \u201conce we make a mistake, we can\u2019t fix it.\u201d  I\u2019d also like <em>who <\/em>is on the Court to matter less.  If it all comes down to just nine personalities, that\u2019s a helluva way to run a legal system.  Hell, the entire federal legal system is messed up\u2026 I\u2019m going to try and clean that mess up for you.  <\/p>\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"alignright size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"22334\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/randazza.wordpress.com\/2022\/06\/16\/i-can-fix-the-federal-judiciary-a-little\/image-22\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/randazza.wordpress.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/image-22.png\" data-orig-size=\"1920,1280\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image-22\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/randazza.wordpress.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/image-22.png?w=175\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/randazza.wordpress.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/image-22.png?w=450\" src=\"https:\/\/randazza.wordpress.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/image-22.png?w=450\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-22334\" width=\"167\" height=\"111\" srcset=\"https:\/\/randazza.wordpress.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/image-22.png?w=167 167w, https:\/\/randazza.wordpress.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/image-22.png?w=334 334w, https:\/\/randazza.wordpress.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/image-22.png?w=100 100w, https:\/\/randazza.wordpress.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/image-22.png?w=175 175w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 167px) 100vw, 167px\"\/><figcaption><em><strong>There has to be a better way to fill this place<\/strong><\/em><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<p><strong>Take the Focus off of the Court in Elections \u2013 Every Presidential Term Gets at Least One Justice<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>This is not 100% an original idea, but I can\u2019t find where I first saw it.  Each President gets one justice per term.  Therefore, the court can <em>at times<\/em> have more than 9 justices on it.  Let\u2019s say that Biden gets re-elected, and Clarence Thomas says \u201cI\u2019m not going anywhere til I\u2019m 100 years old.\u201d  Biden gets to name a new justice.  Now there are 10.  Every case randomly excludes a justice.  Then, Thomas sadly passes away.  Biden does not get to name a replacement unless someone else dies or retires.  This should lower the stakes for the Court in each election.  <\/p>\n<p><strong>An Oldie But a Goodie<\/strong> \u2013 <strong>Supermajorities<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>We have to return to the norm that at least 60 Senators must agree on every judge \u2013 not just SCOTUS.  We need consensus.  In fact, I\u2019d raise that to 66 Senators.  This 51-50 shit is stupid.  It is a lifetime appointment to the most powerful court in the country.  There is a reason that historically, SCOTUS confirmations were overwhelming \u2014 because presidents necessarily had to choose someone they knew would slide with the minority party.  Now, they can pick someone who doesn\u2019t even know what a woman is.  Or they can pick Kavanaugh.  Even if you think Christine Blassey Ford was a reality TV clown show produced by clowns for clowns (as I do) you have to admit that Kavanaugh was a polarizing-for-no-good-reason pick.  A Supreme Court without either Justice Jackson or Justice Kavanaugh is a better Court.  With only a simple majority, Court picks stray from finding judicial stability and judicial talent and it turns into each party simply picking who their best middle finger to the other side can be.  <\/p>\n<p><strong>The Circuits and the States<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I don\u2019t like that the President can pick anyone they want.  Remember when George W. Bush picked Harriet\u00a0Miers?  What <em>was<\/em> that?  Personally, I think it was because he really wanted Alito, and he figured he could have the Democrats blow all their wind on mocking Miers.  If so, it worked \u2013 and he got confirmed 58-42.    <\/p>\n<p>I think, instead, the President should either be constrained to choosing someone who has already served on a Court of Appeal or a State Supreme Court, or there should be a pool of candidates that those Courts themselves nominate.  So if Justice Sotomayor retires, then each of the Courts of Appeal, (the 11 geographic districts, the DC Circuit, and the Federal Circuit) and each State Supreme Court can vote amongst themselves to choose who to put into the pool.  I guess I would even permit each of these constituencies to select someone from one of their subordinate courts, if they felt that was best.  So, if Florida preferred to send a great judge from its 5th DCA, or the 9th Circuit said \u201cyou know, Judge Boulware is a great judge, and we would rather see him than any of us on SCOTUS\u201d then fine.  Hell, I\u2019d go so far as to say that if a state or a Circuit wanted to pick anyone outside their ranks, that would be fine.  The point is that the pool for every SCOTUS pick will be 63 people \u2013 and those 63 will be pre-vetted by a state supreme court or a federal Court of Appeals.  <\/p>\n<p><strong>En Banc and Stare Decisis<\/strong><br \/>When you shift your car into reverse, there\u2019s always some extra step.  You either have to push the gear shift down, or pull up a plunger of some kind to get it into reverse.  The Court needs an extra step too.  If you don\u2019t know what I am talking about, then go learn how to drive a real car.  <\/p>\n<p>In the Courts of Appeal, all cases are assigned to random three judge panels.  If there is a prior decision in that Court of Appeal, then the three judge panel is bound by that decision.  However, if you want to challenge that decision, you can do so if you are able to convince the Court to hear the case <em>en banc<\/em>.  For you non-lawyers, that means that all the judges in the Circuit re-hear the case.  In the 9th Circuit, since there are so many judges, you just pull a random 10 judges plus the Chief \u2013 with the theoretical \u201csuper en banc\u201d (all 29 judges) still permissible, but I think it has never happened.  <\/p>\n<p>In the Supreme Court, I would say that consistency matters \u2013 a lot.  But, reversing mistakes matters too.  For example, I think <em>Bowers v. Hardwick<\/em> was wrongly decided, and in <em>Lawrence v. Texas<\/em> the Court agreed \u2014 a mere 17 years later.  I also think that <em>Roe v. Wade<\/em> was wrongly decided (although, as a matter of individual liberty, I begrudgingly hold my nose and support the right to an abortion while abhorring the practice personally).  I also find Justice Thomas\u2019 view on <em>New York Times v. Sullivan<\/em> to be persuasive, and while I wouldn\u2019t throw it out completely, I do think the Court\u2019s decisions expanding the \u201cpublic official\u201d doctrine to mere public figures are worth reconsideration.  <em>St. Amant v. Thompson<\/em> essentially says that the Press has no responsibility to even try and get the story right. <\/p>\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"alignright size-medium is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"22312\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/randazza.wordpress.com\/2022\/06\/16\/i-can-fix-the-federal-judiciary-a-little\/image-20\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/randazza.wordpress.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/image-20.png\" data-orig-size=\"320,180\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image-20\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/randazza.wordpress.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/image-20.png?w=175\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/randazza.wordpress.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/image-20.png?w=320\" src=\"https:\/\/randazza.wordpress.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/image-20.png?w=175\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-22312\" width=\"131\" height=\"74\" srcset=\"https:\/\/randazza.wordpress.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/image-20.png?w=175 175w, https:\/\/randazza.wordpress.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/image-20.png?w=131 131w, https:\/\/randazza.wordpress.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/image-20.png?w=262 262w, https:\/\/randazza.wordpress.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/image-20.png?w=100 100w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 131px) 100vw, 131px\"\/><figcaption><em><strong>Justice Thomas deciding a future case challenging New York Times v. Sullivan<\/strong><\/em><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<p><span class=\"uppercase\">B<\/span>ut, reversing <em>Roe<\/em>, <em>Sullivan<\/em>, or even <em>St. Amant<\/em>, at this point, will change a lot \u2014 overnight.  Yes, the Supreme Court has always had the ability to play <em>Cho Chabudai Gaeshi!<\/em> with nearly anything at any time.  But, maybe it shouldn\u2019t be able to simply do a u-turn any time 5 out of 9 people think it sounds like a good idea.  <\/p>\n<p>So why not have a SCOTUS <em>en banc<\/em>?  An even larger Court, which is required if you\u2019re going to reverse a prior decision of the regular Supreme Court.  <\/p>\n<p>Couple it with the idea above, and that <em>might<\/em> work \u2013 but then you\u2019re stuck if you only have nine justices.  If you have ten, that\u2019s hardly a \u201cbanc\u201d to change things.  Sure, there could be a tie, but you could have a \u201cties lose\u201d rule.  <\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s when you go to each Circuit and grab the Chief Judge of that Circuit, and they sit on SCOTUS, by designation, any time there is an <em>en banc<\/em> case to be decided.  This would make for a pretty large deliberative body \u2014 the nine justices (or even a few more at times) plus the 13 Courts of Appeal. But, I think overturning settled law<em> <\/em>should be harder than establishing precedent in the first place.  <\/p>\n<p><strong>While We\u2019re At It \u2013 District Court Judges<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Here\u2019s how it happens now:  You go to law school.  Then, you do <em>something<\/em> but in the meantime, you either donate a lot of money to one political party or the other, or in some other way demonstrate your loyalty to a particular political party\u2019s views.  Then, if you gave enough money or enough people who did happen to think you\u2019ll grind the gears in their direction, your name winds up on some Senator\u2019s desk.  That Senator lobbies for you to be picked, you are, then 50 Senators say \u201cyeah, screw it, put her on the bench.\u201d <\/p>\n<p>Sometimes, that accidentally results in good judges.  Or bad ones who learn how to be good.  Or just <\/p>\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"alignright size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"22336\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/randazza.wordpress.com\/2022\/06\/16\/i-can-fix-the-federal-judiciary-a-little\/image-23\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/randazza.wordpress.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/image-23.png\" data-orig-size=\"1024,1081\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image-23\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/randazza.wordpress.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/image-23.png?w=166\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/randazza.wordpress.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/image-23.png?w=426\" src=\"https:\/\/randazza.wordpress.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/image-23.png?w=426\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-22336\" width=\"113\" height=\"119\" srcset=\"https:\/\/randazza.wordpress.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/image-23.png?w=113 113w, https:\/\/randazza.wordpress.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/image-23.png?w=226 226w, https:\/\/randazza.wordpress.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/image-23.png?w=95 95w, https:\/\/randazza.wordpress.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/image-23.png?w=166 166w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 113px) 100vw, 113px\"\/><figcaption><strong><em>Article III means never <span style=\"text-decoration:underline;\">having<\/span> to do a good job<\/em><\/strong><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<p>terrible judges who are there to promote their agenda or to settle perceived or actual scores.  There\u2019s no real \u201cvetting\u201d of these people for skills or qualifications \u2013 it is entirely political.  Yeah, the ABA claims to vet them \u2013 and will sometimes even say that they\u2019re \u201cunqualified.\u201d  That never matters.  Nobody cares what the ABA thinks except the law schools (that\u2019s a rant for another day).  These un-vetted usually (more so nowadays than in the past) political hacks who need only appeal to 50 senators, then are appointed <em>for the rest of their lives<\/em> or until they figure out they can draw a pension <em>and<\/em> then go do private arbitrations for $900 per hour, where they have even <em>less<\/em> accountability.  <\/p>\n<p>On the other hand, federal <em>magistrates<\/em> apply for the job, are vetted and hired by committees, and in general are fantastic.  I am not blowing smoke up the magistrate\u2019s asses here when I say that I have <em>never <\/em>been before a magistrate who didn\u2019t work hard, do their best to come up with the right decision, and who didn\u2019t practice their craft with 100% integrity.  I can say that about many federal <em>judges<\/em>, too.  But I\u2019d be struck by lightning for being a liar if I told you it was all of them.  I would be gambling with my life if I told you it was even 51%.  Don\u2019t believe me?  Ask any federal litigator about a case, and the first question they will ask is \u201cwho is your judge?\u201d  If they don\u2019t know anything about the judge, personally, their next question will be \u201cwho appointed them?\u201d  <\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s a sign that the system is sick.  <\/p>\n<p>So here\u2019s my wild idea \u2014 make judging a separate profession from being a lawyer.  <\/p>\n<p>You want to be a federal judge?  Then you need a degree in \u2026 whatever, let\u2019s call it \u201cjudgery\u201d until someone comes up with a better name.  To get that degree, you need either law school or at least half of it, plus a two year clerkship with a sitting federal judge or magistrate.  <\/p>\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"alignright size-large is-resized\"><img decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"22329\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/randazza.wordpress.com\/2022\/06\/16\/i-can-fix-the-federal-judiciary-a-little\/image-21\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/randazza.wordpress.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/image-21.png\" data-orig-size=\"1024,1016\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image-21\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/randazza.wordpress.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/image-21.png?w=175\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/randazza.wordpress.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/image-21.png?w=450\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/randazza.wordpress.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/image-21.png?w=450\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-22329\" width=\"168\" height=\"166\" srcset=\"https:\/\/randazza.wordpress.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/image-21.png?w=168 168w, https:\/\/randazza.wordpress.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/image-21.png?w=336 336w, https:\/\/randazza.wordpress.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/image-21.png?w=100 100w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 168px) 100vw, 168px\"\/><figcaption><em>Carabinieri Insignia<\/em><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<p>After that, you are in the \u201cjudge corps.\u201d  Yeah, like the military.  Well, more like the Italian Carabinieri.  The Carabinieri are a federal military police.  If you join the Carabinieri, your first tour of duty <em>must<\/em> be somewhere that you are <em>not from.<\/em>  Why?  Obviously, because you\u2019re more likely to be clean if you are from Palermo, but you wind up serving in Bologna.  You won\u2019t have so many local prejudices, local connections, and local corruptions.  Your second tour of duty, you can go back home, if you want.  <\/p>\n<p>Once you get your judge license, you\u2019re off to your first deployment \u2014 wherever the judge corps needs you.  No local senator diddling around with this.  No local law firms getting an edge because you used to work there.  No petty scores to settle from high school.  You know nobody, and you judge accordingly.  <\/p>\n<p>After your first 5 year term, attorneys in your district vote on whether to retain you or send you somewhere else.<\/p>\n<p>If you\u2019re sent somewhere else, your second term has the same retention or transfer vote.<\/p>\n<p>At any time during your tenure, in any district, there can be an action brought to transfer you to another district. If it is filed, then there will be a vote within 60 days by all attorneys in the district. if 3\/4 of the attorneys vote to yank your judge license, you lose it. If 2\/3, then you\u2019re involuntarily transferred.<\/p>\n<p>Federal rules should be amended to give any party a right to a peremptory challenge of the judge assigned to their case with no questions asked, but you can file this only prior to any rulings by the judge.  The judge with the most peremptory challenges in a district every year is reassigned to another district, involuntarily.    <\/p>\n<p>If you have three involuntary transfers, either due to vote or due to being the most peremptoried judge in the district, you\u2019re done judging.  <\/p>\n<p>After any successful appeal, the case must be remanded to a new judge.  The most reversed judge in the district is also involuntarily transferred.  <\/p>\n<p><strong>Conclusion<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>To do all this would be largely impossible without a Constitutional amendment or without some major consensus on new non-binding norms. I\u2019m not stupid. I get that. But, this is not legislation, this is aspirational.  But, I think this plan addresses what is wrong with our courts \u2014 at least our federal courts.  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