{"id":127838,"date":"2025-03-12T06:15:04","date_gmt":"2025-03-12T06:15:04","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/peraltafinancing.com\/business\/investing\/morningstars-latest-retirement-spending-research-as-it-relates-to-social-security-oblivious-investor\/"},"modified":"2025-03-12T06:15:04","modified_gmt":"2025-03-12T06:15:04","slug":"morningstars-latest-retirement-spending-research-as-it-relates-to-social-security-oblivious-investor","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/fivemor.com\/?p=127838","title":{"rendered":"Morningstar\u2019s Latest Retirement Spending Research (as it Relates to Social Security) \u2014 Oblivious Investor"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div>\n<p>A reader writes in, asking:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">\u201cCould you please clarify Morningstar\u2019s new findings from Jason Kephart that delaying social security until age 70 while using one\u2019s retirement portfolio may not be the optimal approach. Confusing after years of reading research advising of benefits to use portfolio to cover bridge from start of retirement to age 70\u00a0for highest income person.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">For reference, for anybody who hasn\u2019t encountered it yet:<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">I would say that nothing in the Morningstar paper, as it relates to Social Security, should be surprising. However, one of the key tables (exhibit 1 in the paper, which shows up again later as exhibit 19, and which also appears in the article linked above) is causing some confusion, in particular due to using the term \u201cbridge\u201d in a way that is different than what is typical.<\/p>\n<h3 dir=\"ltr\">What\u2019s a Social Security Bridge?<\/h3>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">Typically, a Social Security \u201cbridge\u201d refers to allocating a part of the portfolio to some fixed-income product (most often, a TIPS ladder), to satisfy the extra level of spending that is necessary until Social Security kicks in. For example, you retire at age 62, but delay Social Security until age 70. And you buy an 8-year TIPS ladder (your \u201cbridge\u201d) that will provide an annual amount of spending during those 8 years of delay that is equal to what your Social Security payment would have been.<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">However, in the table in question, when the authors use the term \u201cSocial Security at 70 w\/ Bridge\u201d what they mean is a case in which something <em>external to the portfolio<\/em> performs the role of a bridge. In other words, this is essentially a \u201cdelay Social Security to 70 <em>by working part-time until 70<\/em>\u201d strategy.<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">And what they find about that strategy is that it results in a higher amount of lifetime spending (and a higher combined \u201clifetime spending plus ending portfolio balance\u201d) than a strategy of stopping work at 67 and filing for Social Security at 67. That\u2019s pretty intuitive and uncontroversial. If you work longer, you\u2019ll be able to spend more per year in retirement.<\/p>\n<h3 dir=\"ltr\">Delaying Filing, While Spending from Savings<\/h3>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">The title of the interview above is, \u201cMaybe You Shouldn\u2019t Delay Taking Your Social Security Benefits After All.\u201d The sub-headline states, \u201cNew Morningstar research suggests that in some cases, the advantage of delayed filing may be overstated.\u201d<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">Both of those statements are factually true. Some people shouldn\u2019t delay. And sometimes the benefit of delaying <em>is<\/em> overstated. (See for example, <a href=\"http:\/\/New Morningstar research suggests that in some cases, the advantage of delayed filing may be overstated.\">anybody who suggests that you get an 8% return when you delay<\/a>.)<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">But I think it\u2019s still very fair to say that <em>most<\/em> people should delay, and this paper doesn\u2019t really pose a major challenge that assertion.<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">The big point that those two headlines are getting at is the following finding:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li dir=\"ltr\">In their \u201cbase case\u201d scenario, they\u2019re assuming a person retiring at 67, filing for Social Security at 67, and spending $73,000 in the first year of retirement, using a 60% stock, 40% bond portfolio.<\/li>\n<li dir=\"ltr\">When they changed the assumption to retiring at 67 and filing for Social Security at 70 (thereby needing to spend more from the portfolio during those first 3 years), the spending level went up by ~5.5% (from $73,000 to $77,000), but the median ending portfolio value (at the end of the 30-year simulated retirement) went <em>down<\/em> by ~13.5%.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>So the case they\u2019re making is that if you care more about the ending portfolio value than about spending level, you would want to file earlier rather than later.<\/p>\n<p>The result they find <em>shouldn\u2019t<\/em> surprise you, when you look carefully at the assumptions. Specifically, they\u2019re assuming spending from the 60\/40 portfolio in order to fund the Social Security delay. In other words, stocks make up a major part (60%) of what they are assuming is given up, in exchange for more Social Security. And when you give up the risky asset with the high expected returns, in order to get more Social Security (i.e., a very safe asset), you get a higher level of safe spending, and a lower portfolio balance after 30 years. That\u2019s exactly what we should expect.<\/p>\n<p>For some people, that\u2019s a good tradeoff. For others, it isn\u2019t.<\/p>\n<p>But before deciding that you shouldn\u2019t delay Social Security, we have to take the analysis one step further. We have to look at (what is <em>usually<\/em> meant by) a Social Security bridge strategy, in which you specifically <em>use fixed-income assets<\/em> in order to fund the additional level of spending from the portfolio that\u2019s necessary for the years of delay. The paper doesn\u2019t look at that question specifically. But when that question is addressed in other research, what we typically see is that <a href=\"https:\/\/obliviousinvestor.com\/claiming-social-security-early-to-invest-it-what-rate-of-return-discount-rate-should-we-assume\/\">trading bonds for Social Security<\/a> results in, for most people, an increase in the total available dollars over their lifetime (i.e., an increase in spending, an increase in ending portfolio balance, or some combination of the two).<\/p>\n<h3>Other Relevant Assumptions<\/h3>\n<p>Before closing, there are two additional very important assumptions in the paper. Neither is a <em>flaw<\/em>, as any model must make simplifying assumptions. But they\u2019re both <em>relevant<\/em> in terms of the outcome here.<\/p>\n<p>First, the paper is not considering the interplay of benefits for a couple (i.e., spousal and survivor benefits, as applicable). When we do consider those, what we see for married couples is that <a href=\"https:\/\/obliviousinvestor.com\/long-will-collect-social-security-survivor-benefits\/\">the case for the higher earner in the couple to delay is considerably stronger than for an unmarried person, and the case for the lower earner to delay is considerably weaker than for an unmarried person<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Second, the paper assumes a fixed rate of inflation (2.3%) per year. One of the major benefits of Social Security (and thus one of the benefits of maximizing your Social Security by delaying) is that it adjusts each year based on inflation. In other words, delaying Social Security gives you some additional protection against inflation risk. And the model in the paper isn\u2019t accounting for that, because it\u2019s assuming there <em>is no<\/em> inflation risk (i.e., fixed inflation).<\/p>\n<p>Again, to be clear, I don\u2019t think either of the above is a flaw of the paper. It\u2019s just important to be aware of what assumptions are being used in the model before you take the resulting conclusions and apply them to your own personal financial planning.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p style=\"display: inline;\">\n<p>&#8220;An excellent review of various facts and decision-making components associated with the Social Security benefits. The book provides a lot of very useful information within small space.&#8221;\n<\/p>\n\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A reader writes in, asking: \u201cCould you please clarify Morningstar\u2019s new findings from Jason Kephart that delaying social security until age 70 while using one\u2019s retirement portfolio may not be the optimal approach. 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