{"id":120032,"date":"2025-03-08T12:53:19","date_gmt":"2025-03-08T12:53:19","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/peraltafinancing.com\/american-history\/march-4-2025-hockey-histories-fighting\/"},"modified":"2025-03-08T12:53:19","modified_gmt":"2025-03-08T12:53:19","slug":"march-4-2025-hockey-histories-fighting","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/fivemor.com\/?p=120032","title":{"rendered":"March 4, 2025: Hockey Histories: Fighting"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div id=\"post-body-5854868284081681052\" itemprop=\"description articleBody\">\n<p>[On <a href=\"https:\/\/www.espn.com\/nhl\/story\/_\/id\/18810408\/nhl-first-indoor-hockey-game-1875-ended-skirmish-players-non-players\">March<br \/>\n3<sup>rd<\/sup>, 1875<\/a>, the first organized ice hockey game was played. So this<br \/>\nweek for the sport\u2019s 150<sup>th<\/sup> anniversary I\u2019ll AmericanStudy a handful<br \/>\nof hockey histories, leading up to a weekend post on some SportsStudiers we can<br \/>\nall learn from!]<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-top: 12.0pt; tab-stops: 142.5pt;\"><span style=\"mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;\">On the way<br \/>\nnot to argue for a sport\u2019s violent tradition, and a possible way to do so.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-top: 12.0pt; tab-stops: 142.5pt;\"><span style=\"mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;\">First, in<br \/>\nthe interest of full disclosure: of the four major sports, I know by far the<br \/>\nleast about hockey. And that\u2019s especially true of hockey history\u2014other than a<br \/>\nfew <\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/www.bobbyorr.com\/\"><span style=\"mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;\">big name players<\/span><\/a><span style=\"mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;\"> and the<br \/>\noccasional <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=Q8K7roZu3WU\"><span style=\"mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;\">interesting<br \/>\nstory<\/span><\/a><span style=\"mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;\"> (both of those hyperlinked pieces focus on <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.nhl.com\/bruins\/team\/history\"><span style=\"mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;\">Boston-related topics<\/span><\/a><span style=\"mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;\">, which is<br \/>\nlikely why I know a bit more about them than I do other hockey histories), what<br \/>\nI know about the history of hockey can be fit inside a box much smaller than<br \/>\nthe penalty one. Researching this week\u2019s series has helped with that to be<br \/>\nsure, but I know I\u2019ve only scratched the surface still. So as always, and<br \/>\nespecially when it comes to topics like this one on which I am generally and<br \/>\nadmittedly ignorant, I\u2019ll very much appreciate any responses and challenges and<br \/>\nother ideas in comments (or <\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/americanstudier.blogspot.com\/2025\/03\/mailto:brailton@fitchburgstate.edu\"><span style=\"mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;\">by email<\/span><\/a><span style=\"mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;\">). I don\u2019t<br \/>\nthink I\u2019m ever gonna get to full <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=NkafDX8uob0\"><span style=\"mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;\">octopus-on-the-ice<\/span><\/a><span style=\"mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;\"> level<br \/>\nhockey fandom, but there\u2019s no topic about which I\u2019m not excited to learn more,<br \/>\nthis one very much included. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-top: 12.0pt; tab-stops: 142.5pt;\"><span style=\"mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;\">So with<br \/>\nall of that said, it\u2019s my understanding that one of the most heated debates in<br \/>\nthe hockey world is over whether fighting is a <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/fighting-nhl-hockey-violence-sports-code-referee-2017-2\"><span style=\"mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;\">central<br \/>\nand beloved element of the sport<\/span><\/a><span style=\"mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;\"> that must be preserved or an <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.forbes.com\/sites\/arthurcaplan\/2016\/03\/07\/why-hockey-should-ban-fighting\/#3938243013fb\"><span style=\"mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;\">outdated<br \/>\nand dangerous aside<\/span><\/a><span style=\"mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;\"> that should be discarded to attract more<br \/>\nwidespread fan support. Obviously I don\u2019t know enough to have a strong opinion<br \/>\n(I\u2019m <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/americanstudier.blogspot.com\/2015\/02\/february-19-2015-americanstudying-non.html\"><span style=\"mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;\">opposed to<br \/>\nfighting-based sports<\/span><\/a><span style=\"mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;\">, but this is somewhat of a different story of<br \/>\ncourse), but I will say this: from what I can tell, many of the arguments in<br \/>\nfavor of fighting seem to come from what we could call <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/bleacherreport.com\/articles\/316176-hockey-traditionalists-better-hope-these-teams-start-to-lose-soon\"><span style=\"mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;\">hockey<br \/>\ntraditionalists<\/span><\/a><span style=\"mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;\">. And having had more than my share of experiences with <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/ngbaseball.com\/the-unwritten-rules-and-traditionalist-baseball-fans-need-to-stop-77595bf07fcf\"><span style=\"mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;\">baseball<br \/>\ntraditionalists<\/span><\/a><span style=\"mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;\">, I\u2019d say that \u201cThis is how we have always done things\u201d is an<br \/>\nincredibly ineffective way to argue for any aspect of a sport (or most anything<br \/>\nelse for that matter). For one thing, such an argument would by extension make<br \/>\nany change impossible, and anything that is going to endure over time needs to<br \/>\nevolve in at least some ways in order to do so. And for another thing, there<br \/>\nare many cases where we learn things that require specific changes in the way<br \/>\nwe do things\u2014and it seems to me that what we now <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.si.com\/nhl\/2018\/05\/07\/cte-nhl-hockey-head-trauma\"><span style=\"mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;\">know about<br \/>\nhead injuries<\/span><\/a><span style=\"mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;\">, for example, just might make that the case when it comes to <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/sportmedbc.com\/news\/fighting-nhl\"><span style=\"mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;\">fighting in hockey<\/span><\/a><span style=\"mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;\">.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-top: 12.0pt; tab-stops: 142.5pt;\"><span style=\"mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;\">I\u2019m pretty<br \/>\nserious about CTE (although I haven\u2019t been able to <\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/americanstudier.blogspot.com\/2014\/01\/january-27-2014-football-focalizes.html\"><span style=\"mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;\">give up<br \/>\nfootball<\/span><\/a><span style=\"mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;\"> yet), so if I were to weigh in more fully on the fighting in<br \/>\nhockey debate, I\u2019d likely be in the opposition camp. But I try to be open to<br \/>\ndifferent perspectives of course, and in a debate like this what I\u2019d be<br \/>\ninterested to hear is how pro-fighting perspectives might argue for its role in<br \/>\nhow the sport is played. That is, when it comes to <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.usatoday.com\/story\/sports\/mlb\/2018\/04\/12\/mlb-bench-clearing-brawls\/513140002\/\"><span style=\"mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;\">fighting<br \/>\nin baseball<\/span><\/a><span style=\"mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;\"> (something I know a lot more about), fights represent an entirely<br \/>\nunsanctioned and illegal element, one that always leads to ejections and<br \/>\nsuspensions and fines and so on. Whereas <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.worldatlas.com\/articles\/why-is-fighting-allowed-in-ice-hockey.html\"><span style=\"mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;\">fighting<br \/>\nin hockey is more or less entirely sanctioned<\/span><\/a><span style=\"mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;\">, with the two fighters surrounded by<br \/>\nthe referees and allowed to complete their fight before the regular gameplay<br \/>\nresumes. So perhaps there are reasons beyond tradition alone, ways that<br \/>\nfighting contributes to the play of hockey within games, within a season, as a<br \/>\nsport. After all, all rules in sports are arbitrary and constructed, and don\u2019t<br \/>\nnecessarily need changing as a result. This one features violence to be sure,<br \/>\nbut so for that matter does hockey overall\u2014so I\u2019m open to hearing (including<br \/>\nhere if you\u2019d like!) for how this element of hockey might also feature other<br \/>\nsides to this sport, past and present.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-top: 12.0pt; tab-stops: 142.5pt;\"><span style=\"mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;\">Next<br \/>\nhockey history tomorrow,<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-top: 12.0pt; tab-stops: 142.5pt;\"><span style=\"mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;\">Ben<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-top: 12.0pt; tab-stops: 142.5pt;\"><span style=\"mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;\">PS. What<br \/>\ndo you think? Hockey histories you\u2019d highlight? <\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>[On March 3rd, 1875, the first organized ice hockey game was played. 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